2025 OFFSEASON

[Dodub]

Right now we are predicted to sign Asante Samuel Jr. I’m not gonna lie, I don’t hate this idea at all. He’s projected to sign for 3 years and around 40-45. Lenior, Samuel and Green would make a nice trio.

I’ve also warmed to the idea of signing Dalman.

[Pattersonca65]

Who is predicting this?

[wco81]

So Kittle is entering the last year of what was a record-breaking contract and had one of his best seasons. Apparently following offseason shoulder surgery which meant he had to regain 30 pounds.

Despite missing a pair of games because of hamstring injuries, Kittle posted 1,106 receiving yards (second most in his career), 78 receptions (third most) and 8 touchdown catches (second most) while averaging 14.2 yards per reception (third most).

That production earned Kittle a second-team All-Pro spot, a sixth Pro Bowl nod and his second Len Eshmont Award as the team's most valuable player.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43890342/will-49ers-te-george-kittle-get-contract-extension

Because of contract restructures, he’s got a high cap number in 2025. So a contract extension could lower the number.

The easiest path to such cap relief, of course, would come in the form of a contract extension. When Kittle signed his previous deal, he became the highest-paid tight end in NFL history with an average annual value of $15 million and set a record with $40 million in guarantees.

Since then, the tight end market hasn't moved much with Travis Kelce ($17.125 million) and T.J. Hockenson ($16.5 million) surpassing Kittle in average value and Hockenson ($42.5 million) garnering more guaranteed money.

After the season, Kittle told ESPN that he wants to be a Niner for his entire career and that "whatever the front office wants to do, I'm all ears." And some early discussions to that end have already begun, Kittle told the "Up and Adams Show" during Super Bowl week.

While he had a great season, he is 31 and part of the reason for his production could be injuries to other players which led to more targets than he otherwise would have gotten.

Does he get as many targets if Aiyuk and CMC get the targets they had in 2023?

Or if Pearsall shows good improvement and get a lot more targets?

[Big J]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

I miss having a dynamic duel threat QB like Kaep.

[arich35]

Salary cap is going up 10% again. Backloading contracts seems like the right move, the salary cap will just keep going up and up

[CrimsonCrew]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

I miss having a dynamic duel threat QB like Kaep.

In Kapernick's second playoff run, he failed to complete 60% of his passes in any game. He threw three TDs, three INTs, and fumbled three times. He threw for 227, 196, and 153 passing yards in those games (in order). He was sacked six times.

The year after that playoff run, he completed 60.5% of his passes for 19 TDs and 10 INTs. The year after that, he was down at 59% completion percentage with 6 TDs and 5 TDs in 8 games. And the year after that, he was 59.2%, 16 TDs and 4 INTs in 11 games. The problem with Kaepernick was that he wasn't a dual threat. He was a running QB who could throw a little. He didn't have good vision, wasn't accurate, couldn't alter his delivery. He can't hold a candle to Purdy as an NFL passer. It's the main reason why he's been out of the league, the protest aside.

[CrimsonCrew]

They released DFF yesterday. That's good news. He was awful last year, even on STs. Just kept having penalties on punts, too. I chalk a lot of that up to coaching, but come on. After the third or fourth illegal formation penalty, the player has got to catch on.

[Pattersonca65]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

I miss having a dynamic duel threat QB like Kaep.

In Kapernick's second playoff run, he failed to complete 60% of his passes in any game. He threw three TDs, three INTs, and fumbled three times. He threw for 227, 196, and 153 passing yards in those games (in order). He was sacked six times.

The year after that playoff run, he completed 60.5% of his passes for 19 TDs and 10 INTs. The year after that, he was down at 59% completion percentage with 6 TDs and 5 TDs in 8 games. And the year after that, he was 59.2%, 16 TDs and 4 INTs in 11 games. The problem with Kaepernick was that he wasn't a dual threat. He was a running QB who could throw a little. He didn't have good vision, wasn't accurate, couldn't alter his delivery. He can't hold a candle to Purdy as an NFL passer. It's the main reason why he's been out of the league, the protest aside.

I stood by Kap for a long time but it was clear je just was never going to be that QB. He cant run a pro style offense. Didnt he throw two pick sixes against AZ? I remember he got picked twice in one game in the same exact spot

[Samurai]

They released DFF yesterday. That's good news. He was awful last year, even on STs. Just kept having penalties on punts, too. I chalk a lot of that up to coaching, but come on. After the third or fourth illegal formation penalty, the player has got to catch on.

DFF had an overall grade of 30.6 last season, almost comically bad. Our challenge is that we need whoever takes his spot to be a productive player both on defense and special teams since both facets were problematic last season. Not sure we can afford the extra roster spot to have two guys fill DFF's spot.

[CrimsonCrew]

They released DFF yesterday. That's good news. He was awful last year, even on STs. Just kept having penalties on punts, too. I chalk a lot of that up to coaching, but come on. After the third or fourth illegal formation penalty, the player has got to catch on.

DFF had an overall grade of 30.6 last season, almost comically bad. Our challenge is that we need whoever takes his spot to be a productive player both on defense and special teams since both facets were problematic last season. Not sure we can afford the extra roster spot to have two guys fill DFF's spot.

DFF was awful on STs, too. I'm not sure we could add a guy who is worse. Though Bethune is the maybe most obvious replacement on the roster and he is terrible in space. Kind of the anti-DFF in that he's great against the run but awful in coverage. Curtis Robinson needs to get healthy....

[Pattersonca65]

Feliciano retired

[Samurai]

Feliciano retired

Sounds like he just didn't have any confidence that he could get and stay healthy. Didn't play a single snap for us last season. He was decent when he played, but if you are always in the trainer's room instead of the field it doesn't help the team. Hope he enjoys retirement and just increases the need for the team to build more depth on the OL.

[CrimsonCrew]

Bartch and Zakelj were both solid when they got in at LG this year. Both played better than Banks, who really only has four or five games in his career where he was good (start of 2023), and otherwise has been pretty bad consistently. I think we're okay with one of them at LG, though I'd still look to upgrade.

Ideally we would add a FA center - if only because I don't think Kyle will trust a rookie, and it's a weak class where the best guys are converted Ts or Gs - and re-sign Bartch. If we draft an OT in the first couple rounds, that guy would presumably compete at RT and/or LG in year one before replacing Trent.

[wco81]

Wow if they have to part from Banks, the #48 pick of the 2021 draft, it's another big draft miss.

Probably there are useful players chosen after #48 in that draft.

[CrimsonCrew]

Wow if they have to part from Banks, the #48 pick of the 2021 draft, it's another big draft miss.

Probably there are useful players chosen after #48 in that draft.

Huge miss. We traded back and missed Assante Samuel, who I wanted there. Creed Humphrey went 63rd and he's been maybe the best center in the league since he was taken. I wasn't eyeing IOL, but he was clearly a better fit than Banks.

I really liked Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah that year, and he's been a pro bowler. Nic Bolton and Pete Werner have both been really good. Though we didn't really have a need at LB.

Man, it is tough to review our draft thread that year, especially in hindsight. Lance, Banks, traded up for Sermon, then Ambry Thomas. Ugh. Awful first four picks, but we ended with Moore (not great, but solid value for the 5th), Lenoir, Huf, and Mitchell. Just imagine if we could start hitting on high picks the way we do on late picks....

[arich35]

Wow if they have to part from Banks, the #48 pick of the 2021 draft, it's another big draft miss.

Probably there are useful players chosen after #48 in that draft.

You can say that about nearly every team and a lot of players

[wco81]

Wow if they have to part from Banks, the #48 pick of the 2021 draft, it's another big draft miss.

Probably there are useful players chosen after #48 in that draft.

You can say that about nearly every team and a lot of players

You could also say that these misses are why they haven't hoisted the Lombardi under this brain trust.

Also if the team is out of the contention window. We will see next season but most prognosticators are choosing at least Philly and the Lions ahead of the 49ers in the NFC. Depending on how things go, Minnesota, Washington and Green Bay may also again finish above the 49ers.

[CrimsonCrew]

Overall, the 49ers under Lynch and Shanahan have been a strong team in the draft. However, much of that has been because of their hit rate late in the draft. In the first three rounds, they have been pretty shaky. It's hard to gain context sometimes because we're so locked in on the Niners that we lose sight of how often teams miss in the early rounds, but I think it's reasonable to have higher expectations for the team, especially when guys are busting or disappointing for reasons that were clear when they were drafted.

[arich35]

Wow if they have to part from Banks, the #48 pick of the 2021 draft, it's another big draft miss.

Probably there are useful players chosen after #48 in that draft.

You can say that about nearly every team and a lot of players

You could also say that these misses are why they haven't hoisted the Lombardi under this brain trust.

Also if the team is out of the contention window. We will see next season but most prognosticators are choosing at least Philly and the Lions ahead of the 49ers in the NFC. Depending on how things go, Minnesota, Washington and Green Bay may also again finish above the 49ers.

You could say that about 29 other teams as well but yes there have been some obvious misses but I think overall we have been pretty good with draft picks

[clyde21]

we've been saying for a while that this is such a weird drafting team, mindbending misses in the first couple of rounds but a few home runs later in the draft, not to mention the Trey trade which essentially wasted three 1st rounders

sometimes I wonder how we have as much talent on this team as we do (or maybe we don't at this point given the good amount of holes we suddenly have).