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Post#321 » by clyde21 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:45 pm

curious why you'd be unhappy w/ Walker
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Post#322 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:36 pm

clyde21 wrote:curious why you'd be unhappy w/ Walker


I'm not sold on him either at LB or as a pass rusher. He feels like a 'tweener who may not truly excel at either spot.
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Post#323 » by clyde21 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:29 pm

Will Campbell is gonna such an interesting case study...outlier bad arm/wingspan length but an elite RAS with 3 year great tape in the toughest conference...if you want to know how important arm length/wingspan is in the NFL Campbell will be the perfect experiment

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Post#324 » by clyde21 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:35 pm

damn, we might not even be able to get Logan Brown in 4th now

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Post#325 » by clyde21 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:50 pm

a late round TE sleeper for me, love this guy. would be filthy with Kyle.

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Post#326 » by clyde21 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:57 pm

crazy athletic FB prospect, late round target?

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Post#327 » by wco81 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:55 pm

Jeremiah thinks that if Simmons or Connerly (OT from Oregon) are available at #31, Chiefs would pick one of them for sure, to improve their T situation.

Those two may have the highest ceilings among tackles in the draft class.
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Post#328 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:14 am

wco81 wrote:Jeremiah thinks that if Simmons or Connerly (OT from Oregon) are available at #31, Chiefs would pick one of them for sure, to improve their T situation.

Those two may have the highest ceilings among tackles in the draft class.


pretty obvious spot for either of them, unless they want a contributer for next season.
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Post#329 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:39 pm

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wco81 wrote:Jeremiah thinks that if Simmons or Connerly (OT from Oregon) are available at #31, Chiefs would pick one of them for sure, to improve their T situation.

Those two may have the highest ceilings among tackles in the draft class.


pretty obvious spot for either of them, unless they want a contributer for next season.


No reason Connerly can't contribute year one. Simmons you wouldn't want to count on.
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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#330 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:18 am

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wco81 wrote:Jeremiah thinks that if Simmons or Connerly (OT from Oregon) are available at #31, Chiefs would pick one of them for sure, to improve their T situation.

Those two may have the highest ceilings among tackles in the draft class.


pretty obvious spot for either of them, unless they want a contributer for next season.


No reason Connerly can't contribute year one. Simmons you wouldn't want to count on.


for the Chiefs? where would he be playing year 1? they just signed Moore at LT, have Taylor at RT, Kingsley slated to start at LG, have Tyler Smith at RG. Unless you see him starting over Taylor?
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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#331 » by clyde21 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:27 pm

not sure how I feel about half this list tbh...what's our track record selecting the guys that came to our top 30 visit?

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Post#332 » by Jikkle » Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:40 am

clyde21 wrote:not sure how I feel about half this list tbh...what's our track record selecting the guys that came to our top 30 visit?

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Looking at the lists from the past years and doing some sloppy math in my head, it seems like the average is 3 or 4 guys being taken from the top 30 visits.

Though last year they only took one guy, Jacob Cowling that had a top 30 visit. Notably we didn't have Pearsall in for a top 30 visit.

Look at the list of top 30 and we'll probably take 2 or 3 of those guys on that list so lets hope it's from the half of the list you like.

I'd say it's pretty likely that whoever is on the list won't be our pick at #11 though. Looking at the draft history under Lynch/Shanahan the person they draft in with their selection is 1st is basically never a top 30 visit. The only exceptions are the drafts we drafted so high that it really didn't matter if other teams knew who we were going to draft like in 2019 we had Bosa visit because we had the 2nd overall pick so it didn't matter if teams knew what we were doing with it. The other exception is guys we trade back into the first for like Foster and Aiyuk have been visits but I don't really count those because we were doing the leap frogging in those cases. It's clear when they are in spots vulnerable to getting jumped by another team they do as little as possible to tip off who they want.
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Post#333 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 4:46 pm

LOL, I am over the mocks. I come across the headlines but pass on reading them. The only two positions I haven't seen the 49ers taking with the eleventh pick is running back and safety. Every other position has been mocked with the first round pick
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Post#334 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:16 pm

hopefully this remove Will Johnson from the equation at 13

the vert is good but the shuttle is bad (13th %tile), didn't run a 40, add in some not very long arms + the injury and he'll probably drop into the 20s at least imo.

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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#335 » by Jikkle » Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:22 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:LOL, I am over the mocks. I come across the headlines but pass on reading them. The only two positions I haven't seen the 49ers taking with the eleventh pick is running back and safety. Every other position has been mocked with the first round pick


Any mock that doesn't have us taking OT or DL is coming from a person who doesn't really follow the team that closely. I could let a mock with an WR slide even though I think it's unlikely.

But all the mocks having us take a CB or TE are just guy that know the team on a surface level and slotting in guys that will be BPA and are value.

Not saying there is absolutely no chance we won't take a CB or TE or any other position it's just that if you've follow the team closely you would know that given their drafting history the odds are low on that.
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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#336 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:13 pm

official draft invite list, last year it was 13 and all 13 were drafted in the 1st.

kinda surprised Dart and Milroe are on here, don't think the NFL would do this unless they have some intel they'll go high

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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#337 » by clyde21 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:58 am

Interesting how our org doesn't seem to value RAS athletic scores for OL/DL (peep the Eagles)

it's hard to decipher what this org prioritizes at this point, outside RBs and 3rd round kickers.

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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#338 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:41 pm

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pretty obvious spot for either of them, unless they want a contributer for next season.


No reason Connerly can't contribute year one. Simmons you wouldn't want to count on.


for the Chiefs? where would he be playing year 1? they just signed Moore at LT, have Taylor at RT, Kingsley slated to start at LG, have Tyler Smith at RG. Unless you see him starting over Taylor?


Yeah, probably at LT. Not saying he'd be guaranteed to do so, just that he should be in the conversation if they did take him.
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Post#339 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Apr 15, 2025 5:46 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:LOL, I am over the mocks. I come across the headlines but pass on reading them. The only two positions I haven't seen the 49ers taking with the eleventh pick is running back and safety. Every other position has been mocked with the first round pick


https://nflanalysis.net/the-one-pick-san-francisco-49ers-could-make-to-help-brock-purdy-in-the-nfl-draft/

Not a mock, per se, but this article endorses possibly TRADING UP to select Jeanty. And trading McCaffrey coming off a serious injury to boot. Ha! Words cannot describe how pissed I would be.
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Post#340 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:49 pm

clyde21 wrote:Interesting how our org doesn't seem to value RAS athletic scores for OL/DL (peep the Eagles)

it's hard to decipher what this org prioritizes at this point, outside RBs and 3rd round kickers.

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I actually think OL is one of the areas where the FO is more likely to prioritize athleticism - they just don't prioritize the position in general. The guys with top RAS tend to go in the first and second rounds, and we haven't drafted OL there since McGlinchey. We also tend to take smaller OL, which is something that factors into RAS. But the guys we have taken recently (with the notable exception of Banks and to a lesser extent Burford) tend to have really good movement skills (Puni = 8.27; Kingston = 9.9; Zakelj = 9.83).

As a rule, we don't tend to take high RAS guys nearly as much as some other teams. Last year was a bit of an outlier in that we did add guys with higher scores (8.25 average, but 8.8 without Bethune, 6 of 8 above 8, and three above 9.75). In 2023, we drafted guys who were awful in RAS (6.26 average, high of 8.43), and it shows. Maybe we learned our lesson there a bit.

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