GDT: 49ERS VS CARDINALS

[I_am_1z]

Did anyone play well? Mostert I guess.
The defense sucked. Did Armstead play? We were doing well on the run on the last drive, we had 3 timeouts, and they decided to go to shotgun and throw the last 2 minutes. Why? Dumb decisions.

Yup, 2:00 minutes on the clock on Arizona's 21 yard line. Shanahan gets pass happy and it costs us the game. Our 3 prior runs by running backs on this same drive were 6, 7, and 10 yards in that order.

Shanahan needs an offensive coordinator to take over playcalling duties.

[CrimsonCrew]

Jimmy seems to think way too much. Bourne was wide open and he tried to make a perfect pass to him and screwed it up, and he didn't let it rip to Taylor.

That's because he can't throw the deep ball. He's awful at it. The only one I can actually remember him throwing well is the pass to Kittle in the SB where he was called for PI. I literally cannot recall another good deep ball (20+ yards) by Garoppolo.

But that doesn't excuse his lack of anticipation in the short and mid-range area.

He had a good one in that slugfest vs the Saints to Sanders

Are you referring to the one at about 2:20 here?

https://www.49ers.com/video/49ers-saints-highlights

If so, agree to disagree. It's not a good sign if the guy running deep turns around and backpedals like a centerfielder.

[thesack12]

Just a complete disaster in all three phases. D had some moments, but once again couldn't get a stop when it mattered. Offense was unrelentingly brutal except for a handful of big plays. STs allowed a blocked punt, only KO return went for like 40 yards. Just terrible. Inexcusable. We need to see some major improvement next week.

Another under-rated factor in this game is the defense allowing Edmonds a 20 yard run after a kickoff with 30 seconds left before halftime. If the defense doesn't allow that big of a play, Kingsbury likely kneels on it on the next play. Instead it got Zona into going for the FG mindset, and sure enough they got the 3 points there.

Of course, we're playing the butterfly effect here with who knows what it would have changed throughout the course of the game. But if the Cards don't get 3 before the half there, 9ers only need a FG on that last possession for the win.

Like I posted at the time, I hope that shows Kyle why you don't always take a knee before the half.

[I_am_1z]

I didn’t want to believe it but we’re actually not making the playoffs this year. The defense still struggles to stop Kyler Murray & mobile QB’s for that matter. Jimmy G is not our franchise QB, this guy is so average man & whose our threat at WR? This sucks.

The defense struggled last year to stop Murray and Wilson. We still get two free games with Goff, but we can't let Jimmy G and Shanny throw away these close ones

[CrimsonCrew]

I'm starting to think that a lot of Shanahan's red zone troubles could be connected to Garoppolo. That said, he's struggled with that aspect in his other stops as well.

[dr3am]

I'm starting to think that a lot of Shanahan's red zone troubles could be connected to Garoppolo. That said, he's struggled with that aspect in his other stops as well.

It’s definitely Jimmy G’s sorry ass coz Matt Ryan wasn’t bad in the red zone when Kyle was in Atlanta. Smh

[RIPskaterdude]

I bet Kittle won't play next week

[Samurai]

Just a complete disaster in all three phases. D had some moments, but once again couldn't get a stop when it mattered. Offense was unrelentingly brutal except for a handful of big plays. STs allowed a blocked punt, only KO return went for like 40 yards. Just terrible. Inexcusable. We need to see some major improvement next week.

Another under-rated factor in this game is the defense allowing Edmonds a 20 yard run after a kickoff with 30 seconds left before halftime. If the defense doesn't allow that big of a play, Kingsbury likely kneels on it on the next play. Instead it got Zona into going for the FG mindset, and sure enough they got the 3 points there.

Of course, we're playing the butterfly effect here with who knows what it would have changed throughout the course of the game. But if the Cards don't get 3 before the half there, 9ers only need a FG on that last possession for the win.

Like I posted at the time, I hope that shows Kyle why you don't always take a knee before the half.

But judging by a lot of comments here, it is also Jimmy's fault for giving up the 20-yard run to Edmonds. Also Jimmy should not have allowed Murray to run for 90+ yards and Jimmy had those two costly late hit penalties on Murray that added 30 more yards for the Cards.

[Bald Bull]

no excuses, jimmy played like ****, he had no accuracy on almost any of his passes. The defense still can't stop running QBs to save their lives. the WRs did nothing. Kwon looked confused half the time he was out there.

[thesack12]

Just a complete disaster in all three phases. D had some moments, but once again couldn't get a stop when it mattered. Offense was unrelentingly brutal except for a handful of big plays. STs allowed a blocked punt, only KO return went for like 40 yards. Just terrible. Inexcusable. We need to see some major improvement next week.

Another under-rated factor in this game is the defense allowing Edmonds a 20 yard run after a kickoff with 30 seconds left before halftime. If the defense doesn't allow that big of a play, Kingsbury likely kneels on it on the next play. Instead it got Zona into going for the FG mindset, and sure enough they got the 3 points there.

Of course, we're playing the butterfly effect here with who knows what it would have changed throughout the course of the game. But if the Cards don't get 3 before the half there, 9ers only need a FG on that last possession for the win.

Like I posted at the time, I hope that shows Kyle why you don't always take a knee before the half.

But judging by a lot of comments here, it is also Jimmy's fault for giving up the 20-yard run to Edmonds. Also Jimmy should not have allowed Murray to run for 90+ yards and Jimmy had those two costly late hit penalties on Murray that added 30 more yards for the Cards.

Yeah, Jimmy definitely has warts and he could have played better today (most everybody could have). That said, he didn't do anything back breaking today.

Everybody across the board deserves to shoulder the burden of this loss. The offense, the defense, special teams, and coaching. None of those facets did enough positive things to get the W today.

[Bald Bull]

We had a couple games like this last year to where it felt like we couldn't do anything right, repeatedly hurting ourselves, I'm hoping we bounce back from this like we did last year.

[dr3am]

I feel like we overachieved last year on both ends of the ball, now teams across the league have figured out our defense. You can’t be considered an elite defense when you can’t make stops when it matters. The only positive I can see is that we didn’t have Debo playing but then again he really didn’t shine until the second half of the season when we had Sanders.

[Bald Bull]

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[thesack12]

Coming into today, the group of WRs the 49ers used had a combined total of 210 career receptions with 21 touchdowns.

Today they had a combined total of 4 receptions for 41 yards and 0 TD's.

Until Frisco gets more substance at WR, defenses will just stack the box to play the run/checkdown while rolling coverage to Kittle and straight up dare any of the WR's to be targeted.

[CrimsonCrew]

Another under-rated factor in this game is the defense allowing Edmonds a 20 yard run after a kickoff with 30 seconds left before halftime. If the defense doesn't allow that big of a play, Kingsbury likely kneels on it on the next play. Instead it got Zona into going for the FG mindset, and sure enough they got the 3 points there.

Of course, we're playing the butterfly effect here with who knows what it would have changed throughout the course of the game. But if the Cards don't get 3 before the half there, 9ers only need a FG on that last possession for the win.

Like I posted at the time, I hope that shows Kyle why you don't always take a knee before the half.

But judging by a lot of comments here, it is also Jimmy's fault for giving up the 20-yard run to Edmonds. Also Jimmy should not have allowed Murray to run for 90+ yards and Jimmy had those two costly late hit penalties on Murray that added 30 more yards for the Cards.

Yeah, Jimmy definitely has warts and he could have played better today (most everybody could have). That said, he didn't do anything back breaking today.

Everybody across the board deserves to shoulder the burden of this loss. The offense, the defense, special teams, and coaching. None of those facets did enough positive things to get the W today.

Only because of a dumb PI penalty on the third down INT. He also threw a duck that forced 5'8" Trent Taylor to play defense in the end zone. He took some bad sacks. Plenty of bad Jimmy in this one.

[thesack12]

But judging by a lot of comments here, it is also Jimmy's fault for giving up the 20-yard run to Edmonds. Also Jimmy should not have allowed Murray to run for 90+ yards and Jimmy had those two costly late hit penalties on Murray that added 30 more yards for the Cards.

Yeah, Jimmy definitely has warts and he could have played better today (most everybody could have). That said, he didn't do anything back breaking today.

Everybody across the board deserves to shoulder the burden of this loss. The offense, the defense, special teams, and coaching. None of those facets did enough positive things to get the W today.

Only because of a dumb PI penalty on the third down INT. He also threw a duck that forced 5'8" Trent Taylor to play defense in the end zone. He took some bad sacks. Plenty of bad Jimmy in this one.

That play would have never even happened if Jimmy wasn't able to elude the pressure and get outside the pocket. While it was a fortunate break for Frisco the end result was a huge gain for Frisco via the PI. If Jimmy takes the sack there on 3rd and 10 on the 37 yard line, it takes them far out of FG range, and obviously wouldn't have allowed them the TD to take the lead that possession eventually led to.

Other than the one where he was ducking and dodging ghosts in then pocket on that one sack which was pretty brutal, I don't remember any particularly bad sacks.

[CalamityX12]

My knee jerk reactions after gm 1

- DL lost it’s game changing impact. I did not like losing Buckner in favor of Armstead(i acknowledge the cap issues), Armstead was a no show today and that’s not how you replace DeFo. If DeFo wasn’t getting to the QB, he was opening it up for everyone to feast! Armstead did none of the above...

-Jimmy’s inconsistent throwing will hold us back. It did in the SB, it almost killed George today and missed open guys today.... idk what’s up with him but his throwing is regressing, it hardly had any zip today, too much air, too late, slow release IMO and barely hit the target.... outside of Mostert’s great run and hitting Juice for a long, definitely was not good as passer IMO.

I hated losing to the cards, we did not play our best but when we didn’t we usually still won on talent... it’s eye opening that our talent wasn’t enough to overcome the poor start.

We need to be better to really enforce this “revenge tour” mantra

[CalamityX12]

I'm starting to think that a lot of Shanahan's red zone troubles could be connected to Garoppolo. That said, he's struggled with that aspect in his other stops as well.

He stopped calling run plays for a stretch...

Kyle was off... stick to what works, felt like he forced some passing plays instead of chewing up yards...

[wco81]

Like I said, I don't recall that much shotgun being used last year.

Curious how many snaps Juice got in this game compared to last year.

As if he's trying to prove that both he and Jimmy can produce without play action passing game.

[Bald Bull]

My knee jerk reactions after gm 1

- DL lost it’s game changing impact. I did not like losing Buckner in favor of Armstead(i acknowledge the cap issues), Armstead was a no show today and that’s not how you replace DeFo. If DeFo wasn’t getting to the QB, he was opening it up for everyone to feast! Armstead did none of the above...

to be fair they had the same struggles against mobile QBs last year to even with bucker. There where several plays when they where on Murray's ass and he managed to get away in ways that most QBs wouldn't. I remember last year looking forward to getting back to games against pocket passers and i feel the same now.

I think the wide 9 will always be vulnerable in that way.