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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#381 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Jan 8, 2017 9:42 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:Adam Schefter:

49ers doing GM interviews with Seattle's Trent Kirchner and Scott Fitterer a week from Monday, and HC interview with Tom Cable next Sunday.


I'm really hoping they get their guys before they even interview this bunch.

Once they interview Riddick on Tuesday I'm really hoping McDaniels and Riddick get offers or Shanahan.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#382 » by ChrisPozz » Sun Jan 8, 2017 10:01 pm

Updated:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-updated-interview-schedule

Monday, Jan. 9
Washington offensive coordinator Sean McVay (coach)
Carolina assistant general manager Brandon Beane (GM)

Tuesday, Jan. 10
Carolina defensive coordinator Sean McDermott (coach)
ESPN analyst Louis Riddick (GM)

Sunday, Jan. 15
Seattle offensive line/assistant head coach Tom Cable (coach)

Monday, Jan. 16
Seattle co-director of player personnel Scott Fitterer (GM)
Seattle co-director of player personnel Trent Kirchner (GM)

TBD?
Miami defensive coordinator Vance Joseph (coach)
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#383 » by RedneckNiner » Sun Jan 8, 2017 10:17 pm

The more i research Riddick the more I like him. However I am still Hoping for Wolf or one of the Seattle crew. Mostly because they are actively doing parts of the job right now and come from teams that have winning and successful cultures whereas Riddick has been an analyst.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#384 » by Jikkle » Sun Jan 8, 2017 10:20 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Adam Schefter:

49ers doing GM interviews with Seattle's Trent Kirchner and Scott Fitterer a week from Monday, and HC interview with Tom Cable next Sunday.


I'm really hoping they get their guys before they even interview this bunch.

Once they interview Riddick on Tuesday I'm really hoping McDaniels and Riddick get offers or Shanahan.


Riddick can get hired but if they want Wolf and/or McDaniels or Shanahan they'll have to wait until they're out of the playoffs. They could get a wink and a nod type of agreement though like Atlanta had with Quinn a couple of years ago.

I would imagine after they talk to Riddick things will heat up because I think after Riddick are the guys that they aren't high on and plan Z for them.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#385 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Jan 8, 2017 10:29 pm

Jikkle wrote:
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ChrisPozz wrote:Adam Schefter:

49ers doing GM interviews with Seattle's Trent Kirchner and Scott Fitterer a week from Monday, and HC interview with Tom Cable next Sunday.


I'm really hoping they get their guys before they even interview this bunch.

Once they interview Riddick on Tuesday I'm really hoping McDaniels and Riddick get offers or Shanahan.


Riddick can get hired but if they want Wolf and/or McDaniels or Shanahan they'll have to wait until they're out of the playoffs. They could get a wink and a nod type of agreement though like Atlanta had with Quinn a couple of years ago.

I would imagine after they talk to Riddick things will heat up because I think after Riddick are the guys that they aren't high on and plan Z for them.


An agreement with the coach is fine with me. They gotta get the staff assembled via handshake wink or whatever as well. I don't want to miss out on guys because we waited to interview sorry ass Cable.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#386 » by wartyOne » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:41 am

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Because Jed York is an incompetent, arrogant jackass. I, without a single doubt in my mind, fully expect another top 3 pick in the draft for the next five years.

For the record, my cats are more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is. That shouldn't be surprising. The garbage that got picked up in front of my house on Wednesday is also more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is.

Exactly whom can we hire at GM that would be considered subpar to mediocre who would want the position knowing that Dipshi...er...Jed hired the coach before the GM was even consulted
? If dummy York was serious about a culture change, he would have fired Baalke when the team went 1-4, installed Sackorpick as the starting QB and proceeded to lose the next 10 games, back in October and hired his replacement then so that the GM could ACTUALLY hire his next HC.

).


That's exactly my point!! How can folks not see that there's a problem with that process. It seems so backwards to me. Very frustrating to say the least.


Josh McDaniels is said to prefer the 49ers over any other team and Louis Riddick has already said he would accept the job, and he and Josh are friends on top of it. So I am not sure where this negativity is coming from. But its wearing thin.


Oh boy. McDaniels and Riddick would be the epitome of mediocrity. I guess mediocrity is a step up from gutter though.

It's not negativity. It's recognizing the very clear flaws in this process.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#387 » by wartyOne » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:46 am

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Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
wartyOne wrote:
Because Jed York is an incompetent, arrogant jackass. I, without a single doubt in my mind, fully expect another top 3 pick in the draft for the next five years.

For the record, my cats are more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is. That shouldn't be surprising. The garbage that got picked up in front of my house on Wednesday is also more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is.

Exactly whom can we hire at GM that would be considered subpar to mediocre who would want the position knowing that Dipshi...er...Jed hired the coach before the GM was even consulted
? If dummy York was serious about a culture change, he would have fired Baalke when the team went 1-4, installed Sackorpick as the starting QB and proceeded to lose the next 10 games, back in October and hired his replacement then so that the GM could ACTUALLY hire his next HC.

).


That's exactly my point!! How can folks not see that there's a problem with that process. It seems so backwards to me. Very frustrating to say the least.



I actually don't see any problem with the way they are doing the search. The team has stated that they are looking for a GM and Coach who are compatible and I believe that's what they're going to get.

The GM's that they are considered are all qualified and well respected, the team is interviewing all of the top HC candidates out there. Most importantly, it's not a coincidence that each HC candidate has a GM candidate that matches with them.

There is certainly precedence for this type of thing, ideally you want your GM to be a great match for the HC


Sure. But they interviewed all of the top HC candidates out there each of the last three years, and we ended up with Tomstupid and a college coach who can't hack it at the professional level. Now we're going to find a HC simultaneous to hiring his boss (at best). You honestly don't see a problem with that?
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#388 » by wartyOne » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:48 am

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Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
wartyOne wrote:
Because Jed York is an incompetent, arrogant jackass. I, without a single doubt in my mind, fully expect another top 3 pick in the draft for the next five years.

For the record, my cats are more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is. That shouldn't be surprising. The garbage that got picked up in front of my house on Wednesday is also more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is.

Exactly whom can we hire at GM that would be considered subpar to mediocre who would want the position knowing that Dipshi...er...Jed hired the coach before the GM was even consulted
? If dummy York was serious about a culture change, he would have fired Baalke when the team went 1-4, installed Sackorpick as the starting QB and proceeded to lose the next 10 games, back in October and hired his replacement then so that the GM could ACTUALLY hire his next HC.

).


That's exactly my point!! How can folks not see that there's a problem with that process. It seems so backwards to me. Very frustrating to say the least.


I don't see the problem with the process as long as they don't hire the coach before the GM or if they do it's because they already know the coach and GM want to work together.

You have 5 other teams in the market for a coach and two of the hottest candidates have small interview windows so it's not a bad idea to touch base with guys to see how much interest they have in your team and potential GM candidates you're considering. Because since you're trying to pair the GM and coach as partners you don't want to hire the GM and find out none of the coaches want to work with him.

The only thing I'm concerned with is York's reputation scaring off top tier guys and they'll have to settle for someone willing to take the job.


Yes it is when the two idiots conducting the search have a long track record of being terrible at this process. "A broken clock is right twice a day."
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#389 » by wartyOne » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:51 am

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Dodub wrote:On the Chris Ballard front: it was reported that Chiefs GM Dorsey hasn't signed a contract extension and it runs out soon. He's been linked to the Packers job and the thinking is that they are worried about losing him. So Ballard would be the guy to replace Dorsey.

That brings further questions about Wolf and his future with Green Bay


To add it was the Chiefs that denied Ballard from interviewing not Ballard rejecting the interview. Which makes sense now if the Chiefs are worried about Dorsey leaving for GB eventually.

Also it was reported that the 49ers were impressed with both Packers execs so if Wolf feels like he's going to be blocked and he and McDaniels will be buddy buddy I can see Wolf to the 9ers gain some steam.


Not possible. Teams can't block their personnel from seeking job advancement. Ballard rejected the interview because he recognizes a dumpster fire, career-ender when he sees one. Good for him. I wouldn't bother interviewing with these clowns either.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#390 » by wartyOne » Mon Jan 9, 2017 6:23 am

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wartyOne wrote:
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I could get behind hiring this guy.

Why are they interviewing head coaches before GMs? This makes no sense.


Because Jed York is an incompetent, arrogant jackass. I, without a single doubt in my mind, fully expect another top 3 pick in the draft for the next five years.

For the record, my cats are more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is. That shouldn't be surprising. The garbage that got picked up in front of my house on Wednesday is also more qualified to pick successful football personnel than Jed York is.

Exactly whom can we hire at GM that would be considered subpar to mediocre who would want the position knowing that Dipshi...er...Jed hired the coach before the GM was even consulted? If dummy York was serious about a culture change, he would have fired Baalke when the team went 1-4, installed Sackorpick as the starting QB and proceeded to lose the next 10 games, back in October and hired his replacement then so that the GM could ACTUALLY hire his next HC.

To sum up, I fully expect Jed and Parphloogie to hire the worst candidates possible. I trust their ability to screw this up bar none. I in no way believe that a single mid-level hire is even remotely considering accepting this garbage heap of a job offer. I will be outright shocked if anybody with aspirations of having a successful NFL career even picks up the phone when Jed and Punkrag call (though I strongly doubt that Jed and Farfignugen even have a clue who those people are).


Ok. Simply put. Taking Jed and Paraag out of the picture. Who would you like to see get an interview or be under consideration for the two jobs? Outside of never having to see or utter Jed and Paraag's face and name again, what else would you hope to see? What would a realistic Warty interview list look like? I say realistic because wishing a Jim Harbaugh return or a Belichick hire, if you're in that camp, is obviously not realistic, and frankly not worth anybody's time anymore.


Well if I had one, I'd probably be in the business of selecting them. Obviously I don't as a disenfranchised fan of a terrible organization. The problem with that argument is a matter of trust. I trust the Giants to find quality personnel. I trust the Patriots to find quality personnel. I trust the Steelers to find quality personnel. I can't believe ANYBODY trusts Jed York to find quality personnel, and then get out of the way and let them do what they're hired to do. I could study the league for a week (assuming that were my job) and come up with the same list that Jed and Paraag came up with. Interviewing the best candidates who apply is easy. Hiring quality personnel obviously is not Jed's forte. I don't see how it's possible to take Jed and Paraag out of the picture anyway. They're the ones doing the hiring and backstabbing over the past three years.

Having said all of that, I like Shanahan above most. I'm tired of "defense first" where the offense is an embarrassment. I'd like to see an offense not predicated around 1960's philosophy that relies on the defense for 40 minutes to win the game. I don't like McDaniels, because I think he's going to fail without Belichick and Brady, especially in this organization. Lynn I find ridiculous (so much so that I think he's likely the clear front runner for the job). I also don't like the Saban direction. I think, like Kelly, he's not going to succeed at this level. Not in SB fashion anyway.

As far as GM is concerned, I'm not thrilled with Riddick. I think if he were as talented as he's being touted, he wouldn't have been an analyst for the past three years. If he were as good as people think he is, I can't imagine why he'd want to come here. His rhetoric regarding this being the best job available (laughable if you actually analyze it realistically) is simply pathetic and desperate. Also, I don't want anything to do with anyone in the Seahawks front office, or the Vikings. The Vikings are a bad joke. The Seahawks are unravelling at the seams before our eyes. I'm okay with Wolf, though I think he'll ultimately turn York down the way Ballard and Caserio did (also both of whom I was happy with).

All of this is kind of irrelevant though, isn't it? It doesn't matter who my list of candidates is. I'm not the owner. I don't get to make inconsequential terrible decisions and still be a billionaire.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#391 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:46 pm

wartyOne wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
Dodub wrote:On the Chris Ballard front: it was reported that Chiefs GM Dorsey hasn't signed a contract extension and it runs out soon. He's been linked to the Packers job and the thinking is that they are worried about losing him. So Ballard would be the guy to replace Dorsey.

That brings further questions about Wolf and his future with Green Bay


To add it was the Chiefs that denied Ballard from interviewing not Ballard rejecting the interview. Which makes sense now if the Chiefs are worried about Dorsey leaving for GB eventually.

Also it was reported that the 49ers were impressed with both Packers execs so if Wolf feels like he's going to be blocked and he and McDaniels will be buddy buddy I can see Wolf to the 9ers gain some steam.


Not possible. Teams can't block their personnel from seeking job advancement. Ballard rejected the interview because he recognizes a dumpster fire, career-ender when he sees one. Good for him. I wouldn't bother interviewing with these clowns either.


The only position I believe you can't be blocked from is a head coaching interview.

Wolf got blocked from interviewing with Detroit last year for their GM spot and position coaches often get blocked from interviewing for Coordinator spots.

Ballard could've had the Chiefs deny the request on his behalf though so it appears to be a "it's not me but them" kind of deal.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#392 » by Ray_Dogg » Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:54 pm

Or with the rumors about GB with Dorsey possibly going there to replace Thompson KC might be planning on Ballard taking over.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#393 » by 49er4life1979 » Mon Jan 9, 2017 6:07 pm

Not possible. Teams can't block their personnel from seeking job advancement. Ballard rejected the interview because he recognizes a dumpster fire, career-ender when he sees one. Good for him. I wouldn't bother interviewing with these clowns either.[/quote]

Incorrect. Teams CAN block any personnel UNLESS they are seeking a HC job. Harbaugh blocked Donatell twice from going to an interview for a DC gig. Per Ian Rappaport, the Chiefs blocked Ballard.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#394 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 9, 2017 6:17 pm

Mike Smith is the favorite for the Jags job and Vance Joesph is the favorite for the Broncos job.

Chargers are said the prefer a defensive guy and keep their offensive staff in place.

Rams and Bills don't seem to have a preference or favorite yet nor have I heard of any coaches considering them a favorite or preference.

I'm going to guess if he can't land the Broncos job Shanahan won't take any of the jobs this year and wait for next year.
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Post#395 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Jan 9, 2017 6:58 pm

Maybe Mike Smith should check out SD?
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Post#396 » by wco81 » Mon Jan 9, 2017 7:12 pm

He had poor defensive teams at Atlanta.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#397 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 9, 2017 7:41 pm

http://mmqb.si.com/

• I’ve heard good things about the 49ers in their interviews. Why? Because they’re willing to import a coach who would be in charge of reinventing the culture in San Francisco. And they’re willing to be patient. By patient, I mean willing to give a long-term contract to a coach, listen to his recommendation for GM, and steel the locals that this is going to be a significant rebuild. Smart. There’s no other way to do it and to have a chance.

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