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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

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Post#402 » by arich35 » Mon Oct 9, 2023 4:38 pm

I don't even think it is debatable that Purdy is a top 10 QB right now
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Post#403 » by SfBull » Mon Oct 9, 2023 4:58 pm

arich35 wrote:I don't even think it is debatable that Purdy is a top 10 QB right now

I think he's going to be MVP of the regular season and playoffs.Barring injuries Purdy will drive the Niners for winning the Superbowl .Not bad for a" System Quarterback ".
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Post#404 » by SfBull » Mon Oct 9, 2023 5:02 pm

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Especially if the right side of the line gets demolished. Though Brock has been adept at navigating the pocket and knowing when to bail. Injuries robbed Jimmy of whatever mobility he had, and I think that played into his happy-feet and tendency to play impatient and make errant throws. Will be interesting to see how Brock has evolved from the playoff game against Dallas (where he was pretty good, but contained).

I'm hoping the team itself isn't buying its own hype because the national TV types are crowning them.


I think Brock himself is getting the most smoke blown up his ass relative to his actual talent. I've seen a lot of media personalities giving him a lions share of the credit for the early season success when the team was performing just as well with Jimmy at the helm. It actually legit bothers me.


Jimmy didn't play as well.as Brock is playing now. Get over it if it bothers you that much. He is the qb of this team. They traded away the guy with all the imaginary potential.

Purdy is better than Jimmy and Lance now.Both guys were rightly traded because Brock Purdy is our franchise QB.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#405 » by Big J » Mon Oct 9, 2023 5:41 pm

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#406 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 9, 2023 5:49 pm

It's really hard to quibble with what he's done (and all anyone can do is quibble, not truly criticize). Whatever the challenge, he has risen to it and turned in a fairly dominant performance.

This was arguably Purdy's biggest hurdle to date. The team that he struggled against a bit in the playoffs. They looked like they had an elite D (granted they hadn't been tested) and had this date circled on the calendar. And he wasn't perfect. Had the two balls batted early. Was a bit behind on two throws to Aiyuk and I can't remember. I actually thought he did a great job of squeezing two balls into McCaffrey that were both incomplete (one drawing the penalty). The offense was helped a couple times by penalties. But as he always seems to, he stayed calm, kept reading the D, taking what they gave him, and absolutely carved them up.

Sure, I expect the haters will point to the trick play to Kittle and some of the inaccuracy early. Whatever. Every QB in the league has the opportunity to hit open guys. You've got to actually do it, and Purdy is doing it better than anyone.

It's also worth noting, for those who say the league will catch up, that he has now played two teams twice. He played Seattle in the regular season last year and again in the playoffs. He was hurt in the regular season, so it may not have been totally indicative of his abilities, but it was his probably worst game. 217 yards and 2 TDs, team only scored 21. Well, in the playoffs he turned around and, after struggling in the first half, put up 332 yards, three passing TDs, and a rushing TD en route to 41 points in a blowout. Next week he played the Cowboys and was good enough, but not great. 214 yards, no TDs, 19 points for the team. Well he just had the rematch, and we all saw what happened. Four TDs, 42 points. It sure seems like he's getting better faster than the opposition is catching up.

He's got another tough matchup this week on the road at Cleveland, who by some metrics has had the best D in the league to date this year. And they're coming off a bye. We'll see what happens, but I think we're getting past the point of doubting the kid. What we are witnessing is truly remarkable.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#407 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:03 pm

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That was Orlovsky making an exaggerated point in defense of Mac Jones and as a criticism of NE, citing Jones' success as a rookie in particular. And Rex Ryan absolutely pounced on him for stating it. Head in hands, "If you think that, you haven't been paying attention to Brock Purdy. He's not just a system QB, he's playing like Joe Montana." I didn't read Orlovsky's statement as a criticism of Purdy or saying that what Purdy is doing isn't special.

In fact, Orlovsky later tweeted (Xed?) this:

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Watch the show a little longer, and Orlovsky called Purdy an MVP candidate, he changed the offense when he came into it. He said that the Niners won because of coaching and QB play, and Purdy made six or seven big-time throws in the game to Dak's one. Here's the whole segment, and you can hear Orlovsky say those things starting around 4:20.



But nice work taking the low-hanging fruit out of context.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#408 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:04 pm

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Dude. Give it up already. You are turning pathetic now
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#409 » by azcatz11 » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:06 pm

arich35 wrote:I am 30, and honestly Purdy might be the best QB of my lifetime. I was way too young to count Steve Young


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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#410 » by Big J » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:36 pm

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Dude. Give it up already. You are turning pathetic now


I am pathetic? I'm not the only one saying this stuff about him.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#411 » by Samurai » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:39 pm

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Dude. Give it up already. You are turning pathetic now

Just now? The bad takes have been going on way too long.
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Post#412 » by arich35 » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:54 pm

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If the only reason you come in here is to **** talk Purdy and getting rid of Lance too early, why are you here? You don't like this team or care at all about the success the team and Purdy are having. He could go 17-0 and win the MVP and Super Bowl and you would still **** on him.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#413 » by arich35 » Mon Oct 9, 2023 6:55 pm

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Big J wrote:
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Dude. Give it up already. You are turning pathetic now


I am pathetic? I'm not the only one saying this stuff about him.


You and Steven Ruiz, that is about it. Majority of the pundits and experts are giving Purdy credit and talking about him as a MVP candidate and top 10 QB in the league
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#414 » by Big J » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:02 pm

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If the only reason you come in here is to **** talk Purdy and getting rid of Lance too early, why are you here? You don't like this team or care at all about the success the team and Purdy are having. He could go 17-0 and win the MVP and Super Bowl and you would still **** on him.


So we're not allowed to critique him at all? I see plenty of guys on this forum critiquing other guys on the team.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#415 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:03 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:
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Dude. Give it up already. You are turning pathetic now


I am pathetic? I'm not the only one saying this stuff about him.


Orlovsky IMMEDIATELY walked back his comments on the show, said Purdy was in the MVP conversation and had transformed the SF offense, and later reposted that video to post on Twitter that he was arguing that Mac Jones could be a good QB in the right situation, not that he was intending in any way to take away from Purdy.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#416 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:08 pm

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If the only reason you come in here is to **** talk Purdy and getting rid of Lance too early, why are you here? You don't like this team or care at all about the success the team and Purdy are having. He could go 17-0 and win the MVP and Super Bowl and you would still **** on him.


So we're not allowed to critique him at all? I see plenty of guys on this forum critiquing other guys on the team.


Of course you can critique him. But what are you going to critique him for other than his below-average physical tools? You acknowledged this week would be a test for him. Well, he put together one of his best full-game performances en route to absolutely demolishing a top-3 NFC team. 144.4 passer rating, 83.6 QBR, 85.3 PFF grade despite sitting basically the entire fourth quarter. Offense scored 42 points through three quarters and one minute despite turning it over on the two. He never put the ball in harm's way. He repeatedly hit deep balls and big plays.

So what about his performance in this game, or his performance to date this season, are you actually criticizing? He's missed a few passes? He hasn't seen a couple open guys? That's literally it. So yeah, it's pretty pathetic if that's all you've got to come after the guy with besides, "He doesn't have a big arm and he's not an elite runner." At some point, it doesn't matter. Dude is getting. It. Done.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#417 » by arich35 » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:09 pm

Big J wrote:
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If the only reason you come in here is to **** talk Purdy and getting rid of Lance too early, why are you here? You don't like this team or care at all about the success the team and Purdy are having. He could go 17-0 and win the MVP and Super Bowl and you would still **** on him.


So we're not allowed to critique him at all? I see plenty of guys on this forum critiquing other guys on the team.


We all critique every player on the team including Purdy, go in the game thread and you will see it. But that is not what you do, you keep trying to find reasons for Purdy not to be a good to great QB. No matter what he does, you don't care and doesn't change your mind. He could make a few bad throws and throw a couple INTs just like every other QB including the ones that have all those physical tools you love and that is when you will jump in.

Not just any QB can make these throws and reads, you are completely blind if you think so.

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#418 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:15 pm

And for all the griping about his arm strength, Purdy is killing it with deep passes. This isn't Garoppolo, who had good deep ball metrics because he rarely threw downfield and did so only when his guys were wide open. Purdy is absolutely lethal in the 10-30 range from the LOS. Sure, he's not going to hit a lot of 50+ yard bombs to receivers in stride. So what? Even the guys who are great at that do it, what, 20 times in a season? Every single week, Purdy is carving teams up with accurate, in-rhythm deep balls for chunk gains.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#419 » by Big J » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:24 pm

Look, what I will say is that he's putting up impressive stats. He doesn't really do anything that impressive though. It's pretty much just following the script of the game and hit wide open receivers. Kyle & the playmakers deserve the most credit for creating these plays that are getting guys wide open all the time. Most QB's could make the throws that he's making with the clean pockets he's getting.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#420 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 9, 2023 7:30 pm

Big J wrote:Look, what I will say is that he's putting up impressive stats. He doesn't really do anything that impressive though. It's pretty much just following the script of the game and hit wide open receivers. Kyle & the playmakers deserve the most credit for creating these plays that are getting guys wide open all the time. Most QB's could make the throws that he's making with the clean pockets he's getting.


See, that's where virtually everyone disagrees with you at this point. He makes it look easy. It's not. He has phenomenal vision, awareness, anticipation, touch, etc., etc., etc. You just apparently don't count those as strengths.

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