The Brock Purdy Thread

[Big J]

Look, what I will say is that he's putting up impressive stats. He doesn't really do anything that impressive though. It's pretty much just following the script of the game and hit wide open receivers. Kyle & the playmakers deserve the most credit for creating these plays that are getting guys wide open all the time. Most QB's could make the throws that he's making with the clean pockets he's getting.

See, that's where virtually everyone disagrees with you at this point. He makes it look easy. It's not. He has phenomenal vision, awareness, anticipation, touch, etc., etc., etc. You just apparently don't count those as strengths.

Then why are 90% of his passes to guys that are wide open by 5-10 yards? Look, I'm happy for him. I just don't think it's going to be sustainable under playoff intensity in cold weather.

[CrimsonCrew]

Look, what I will say is that he's putting up impressive stats. He doesn't really do anything that impressive though. It's pretty much just following the script of the game and hit wide open receivers. Kyle & the playmakers deserve the most credit for creating these plays that are getting guys wide open all the time. Most QB's could make the throws that he's making with the clean pockets he's getting.

See, that's where virtually everyone disagrees with you at this point. He makes it look easy. It's not. He has phenomenal vision, awareness, anticipation, touch, etc., etc., etc. You just apparently don't count those as strengths.

Then why are 90% of his passes to guys that are wide open by 5-10 yards?

Oh, you're gonna have to back that one up with some sort of statistic or video evidence.

And I've got news for you: in today's NFL, there's almost always a player who is wide open on a given play. Lots of QBs, even the best of the best, don't see those guys. That's where Purdy's vision, anticipation, and ability to anticipate what the defense is doing is so key. He is pretty darn unique in his ability, as a young player, to find and hit the open guy. Often on balls that he throws before the player even makes their break.

If Lance was completing balls to those same receivers, you'd be saying, "See the way he squeezed that ball into tight coverage?" It's not that the receivers were getting less open, it's that Lance wasn't getting the ball to them when and where he was supposed to. Purdy is excellent at that, and it is absolutely a vital skill.

[Pattersonca65]

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Dude. Give it up already. You are turning pathetic now

I am pathetic? I'm not the only one saying this stuff about him.

Yes. You keep coming up with new BS. Now he is just throwing to wide open receivers? You obviously didn't watch the games. At least you got to see your hero standing on the Dallas sidelines last night. Maybe you ought to become a Cowboys fan

[Big J]

See, that's where virtually everyone disagrees with you at this point. He makes it look easy. It's not. He has phenomenal vision, awareness, anticipation, touch, etc., etc., etc. You just apparently don't count those as strengths.

Then why are 90% of his passes to guys that are wide open by 5-10 yards?

Oh, you're gonna have to back that one up with some sort of statistic or video evidence.

And I've got news for you: in today's NFL, there's almost always a player who is wide open on a given play. Lots of QBs, even the best of the best, don't see those guys. That's where Purdy's vision, anticipation, and ability to anticipate what the defense is doing is so key. He is pretty darn unique in his ability, as a young player, to find and hit the open guy. Often on balls that he throws before the player even makes their break.

If Lance was completing balls to those same receivers, you'd be saying, "See the way he squeezed that ball into tight coverage?" It's not that the receivers were getting less open, it's that Lance wasn't getting the ball to them when and where he was supposed to. Purdy is excellent at that, and it is absolutely a vital skill.

True, well if it makes you feel better I am happy for him personally. I just don't think that it's going to be sustainable in cold weather high intensity playoff games where he doesn't have a clean pocket all game long. He barely had to move around at all last night.

[CrimsonCrew]

Then why are 90% of his passes to guys that are wide open by 5-10 yards?

Oh, you're gonna have to back that one up with some sort of statistic or video evidence.

And I've got news for you: in today's NFL, there's almost always a player who is wide open on a given play. Lots of QBs, even the best of the best, don't see those guys. That's where Purdy's vision, anticipation, and ability to anticipate what the defense is doing is so key. He is pretty darn unique in his ability, as a young player, to find and hit the open guy. Often on balls that he throws before the player even makes their break.

If Lance was completing balls to those same receivers, you'd be saying, "See the way he squeezed that ball into tight coverage?" It's not that the receivers were getting less open, it's that Lance wasn't getting the ball to them when and where he was supposed to. Purdy is excellent at that, and it is absolutely a vital skill.

True, well if it makes you feel better I am happy for him personally. I just don't think that it's going to be sustainable in cold weather high intensity playoff games where he doesn't have a clean pocket all game long. He barely had to move around at all last night.

Against maybe the best pass rush in football. As Patterson is saying, every week it's something new. Against the Giants, he was under tons of pressure but executed. You dismiss that. Last night, he was getting the ball out quickly, in rhythm, in timing, but now he wasn't under any pressure.

And maybe his success against basically anything defenses have thrown at him so far is affecting how they defend him, pressuring defenders at all three levels, making them think more about their responsibilities than they did under Jimmy, for instance, because you knew where Jimmy was going with the ball. Brock will throw it pretty much anywhere from sideline to sideline 30 yards downfield. It stresses Ds by making them think more and slows their reaction time.

At some point, he will have a bad game (one presumes, though who knows?). But at this point, it's absurd. The dude continues to blow away expectations.

[Big J]

Oh, you're gonna have to back that one up with some sort of statistic or video evidence.

And I've got news for you: in today's NFL, there's almost always a player who is wide open on a given play. Lots of QBs, even the best of the best, don't see those guys. That's where Purdy's vision, anticipation, and ability to anticipate what the defense is doing is so key. He is pretty darn unique in his ability, as a young player, to find and hit the open guy. Often on balls that he throws before the player even makes their break.

If Lance was completing balls to those same receivers, you'd be saying, "See the way he squeezed that ball into tight coverage?" It's not that the receivers were getting less open, it's that Lance wasn't getting the ball to them when and where he was supposed to. Purdy is excellent at that, and it is absolutely a vital skill.

True, well if it makes you feel better I am happy for him personally. I just don't think that it's going to be sustainable in cold weather high intensity playoff games where he doesn't have a clean pocket all game long. He barely had to move around at all last night.

Against maybe the best pass rush in football. As Patterson is saying, every week it's something new. Against the Giants, he was under tons of pressure but executed. You dismiss that. Last night, he was getting the ball out quickly, in rhythm, in timing, but now he wasn't under any pressure.

And maybe his success against basically anything defenses have thrown at him so far is affecting how they defend him, pressuring defenders at all three levels, making them think more about their responsibilities than they did under Jimmy, for instance, because you knew where Jimmy was going with the ball. Brock will throw it pretty much anywhere from sideline to sideline 30 yards downfield. It stresses Ds by making them think more and slows their reaction time.

At some point, he will have a bad game (one presumes, though who knows?). But at this point, it's absurd. The dude continues to blow away expectations.

You could see the Giants pressure getting to him though. He threw 4 balls in that game that could have easily been intercepted. Their DB's just didn't make the plays.

[CrimsonCrew]

True, well if it makes you feel better I am happy for him personally. I just don't think that it's going to be sustainable in cold weather high intensity playoff games where he doesn't have a clean pocket all game long. He barely had to move around at all last night.

Against maybe the best pass rush in football. As Patterson is saying, every week it's something new. Against the Giants, he was under tons of pressure but executed. You dismiss that. Last night, he was getting the ball out quickly, in rhythm, in timing, but now he wasn't under any pressure.

And maybe his success against basically anything defenses have thrown at him so far is affecting how they defend him, pressuring defenders at all three levels, making them think more about their responsibilities than they did under Jimmy, for instance, because you knew where Jimmy was going with the ball. Brock will throw it pretty much anywhere from sideline to sideline 30 yards downfield. It stresses Ds by making them think more and slows their reaction time.

At some point, he will have a bad game (one presumes, though who knows?). But at this point, it's absurd. The dude continues to blow away expectations.

You could see the Giants pressure getting to him though. He threw 4 balls in that game that could have easily been intercepted. Their DB's just didn't make the plays.

Four is a bit aggressive, I would say two or three of which at least two were 50/50 balls, but I missed most of the first quarter of that one and never went back to it, so I'll defer to you. He then settled down and just tore them apart by exploiting their pressure.

Again, you can nitpick individual plays, even point to a quarter or two where he hasn't looked good. You can't point to a game this year where he hasn't, at the end of it, come out looking pretty darn impressive whoever the coach and supporting cast are.

[Big J]

Against maybe the best pass rush in football. As Patterson is saying, every week it's something new. Against the Giants, he was under tons of pressure but executed. You dismiss that. Last night, he was getting the ball out quickly, in rhythm, in timing, but now he wasn't under any pressure.

And maybe his success against basically anything defenses have thrown at him so far is affecting how they defend him, pressuring defenders at all three levels, making them think more about their responsibilities than they did under Jimmy, for instance, because you knew where Jimmy was going with the ball. Brock will throw it pretty much anywhere from sideline to sideline 30 yards downfield. It stresses Ds by making them think more and slows their reaction time.

At some point, he will have a bad game (one presumes, though who knows?). But at this point, it's absurd. The dude continues to blow away expectations.

You could see the Giants pressure getting to him though. He threw 4 balls in that game that could have easily been intercepted. Their DB's just didn't make the plays.

Four is a bit aggressive, I would say two or three of which at least two were 50/50 balls, but I missed most of the first quarter of that one and never went back to it, so I'll defer to you. He then settled down and just tore them apart by exploiting their pressure.

Again, you can nitpick individual plays, even point to a quarter or two where he hasn't looked good. You can't point to a game this year where he hasn't, at the end of it, come out looking pretty darn impressive whoever the coach and supporting cast are.

True, it's impossible to separate him from his coach or supporting cast though. It's like playing Madden on Rookie mode vs playing it on All-Madden mode.

[Pattersonca65]

True, well if it makes you feel better I am happy for him personally. I just don't think that it's going to be sustainable in cold weather high intensity playoff games where he doesn't have a clean pocket all game long. He barely had to move around at all last night.

Against maybe the best pass rush in football. As Patterson is saying, every week it's something new. Against the Giants, he was under tons of pressure but executed. You dismiss that. Last night, he was getting the ball out quickly, in rhythm, in timing, but now he wasn't under any pressure.

And maybe his success against basically anything defenses have thrown at him so far is affecting how they defend him, pressuring defenders at all three levels, making them think more about their responsibilities than they did under Jimmy, for instance, because you knew where Jimmy was going with the ball. Brock will throw it pretty much anywhere from sideline to sideline 30 yards downfield. It stresses Ds by making them think more and slows their reaction time.

At some point, he will have a bad game (one presumes, though who knows?). But at this point, it's absurd. The dude continues to blow away expectations.

You could see the Giants pressure getting to him though. He threw 4 balls in that game that could have easily been intercepted. Their DB's just didn't make the plays.

Lol. You are grasping for straws.

[CrimsonCrew]

You could see the Giants pressure getting to him though. He threw 4 balls in that game that could have easily been intercepted. Their DB's just didn't make the plays.

Four is a bit aggressive, I would say two or three of which at least two were 50/50 balls, but I missed most of the first quarter of that one and never went back to it, so I'll defer to you. He then settled down and just tore them apart by exploiting their pressure.

Again, you can nitpick individual plays, even point to a quarter or two where he hasn't looked good. You can't point to a game this year where he hasn't, at the end of it, come out looking pretty darn impressive whoever the coach and supporting cast are.

True, it's impossible to separate him from his coach or supporting cast though. It's like playing Madden on Rookie mode vs playing it on All-Madden mode.

He can only play on and with the team he's on. To date, he's been doing that as well as any other QBs in the league.

[Big J]

Four is a bit aggressive, I would say two or three of which at least two were 50/50 balls, but I missed most of the first quarter of that one and never went back to it, so I'll defer to you. He then settled down and just tore them apart by exploiting their pressure.

Again, you can nitpick individual plays, even point to a quarter or two where he hasn't looked good. You can't point to a game this year where he hasn't, at the end of it, come out looking pretty darn impressive whoever the coach and supporting cast are.

True, it's impossible to separate him from his coach or supporting cast though. It's like playing Madden on Rookie mode vs playing it on All-Madden mode.

He can only play on and with the team he's on. To date, he's been doing that as well as any other QBs in the league.

True, now I guess we'll see if he can make a superbowl like Matt Ryan & Jimmy did.

[arich35]

True, it's impossible to separate him from his coach or supporting cast though. It's like playing Madden on Rookie mode vs playing it on All-Madden mode.

He can only play on and with the team he's on. To date, he's been doing that as well as any other QBs in the league.

True, now I guess we'll see if he can make a superbowl like Matt Ryan & Jimmy did.

You think Jimmy did it by himself? Feel like we made it to the Super Bowl more despite him than because of him

[Big J]

He can only play on and with the team he's on. To date, he's been doing that as well as any other QBs in the league.

True, now I guess we'll see if he can make a superbowl like Matt Ryan & Jimmy did.

You think Jimmy did it by himself? Feel like we made it to the Super Bowl more despite him than because of him

...and the current roster is better than the one that made that Super Bowl.

[CrimsonCrew]

True, now I guess we'll see if he can make a superbowl like Matt Ryan & Jimmy did.

You think Jimmy did it by himself? Feel like we made it to the Super Bowl more despite him than because of him

...and the current roster is better than the one that made that Super Bowl.

Right now? Probably. Though I think the pass rush may have been better. But what will the roster look like in January?

And there sure as heck wasn't a Philadelphia Eagles analog in the 2019 playoffs. We beat the Packers 37-8 in the regular season before beating them 37-20 in the NFCCG. The Eagles are a much more complete roster.

[CrimsonCrew]

Look, if this team hits the playoffs healthy, I think there's a very strong chance they win the Super Bowl. I'm not sure there's a team in the league right now that can both stop the offense and run up enough on the defense. But things can change quickly in this league, and injuries are a constant concern. And within a given game, a few bad breaks one way or another can really shift things, often outside the QB's control (like McCaffrey fumbling on the two yesterday, for instance).

[arich35]

True, now I guess we'll see if he can make a superbowl like Matt Ryan & Jimmy did.

You think Jimmy did it by himself? Feel like we made it to the Super Bowl more despite him than because of him

...and the current roster is better than the one that made that Super Bowl.

So if the 49ers make the Super Bowl it is because of the roster. If they don't make the Super Bowl it is because of Purdy?

[Samurai]

You think Jimmy did it by himself? Feel like we made it to the Super Bowl more despite him than because of him

...and the current roster is better than the one that made that Super Bowl.

So if the 49ers make the Super Bowl it is because of the roster. If they don't make the Super Bowl it is because of Purdy?

That pretty much sums it up. Welcome to Bizarro world....

[Big J]

You think Jimmy did it by himself? Feel like we made it to the Super Bowl more despite him than because of him

...and the current roster is better than the one that made that Super Bowl.

So if the 49ers make the Super Bowl it is because of the roster. If they don't make the Super Bowl it is because of Purdy?

If they make it he deserves credit, but it's not like it's something this team hasn't already done before.

[CharityStripe34]

JTO's film review nicely breaks down how great he's been on anticipatory throws 15-30 yards down the field. He threw some absolute dimes last night. The one corner route outside the numbers on the left side was extra special, I think it was called back for holding (?). Saying all that I'm sure both he and the team are due for a letdown/stinker game at some point, it happens to everyone. I think the game at CLE this coming Sunday could be a sneaky trap game. Then again, I truly thought Dallas might win last night because I thought they'd come in the more "desperate" or hungry team, but this 49er team (going back to the mid-point last season) is especially hungry this last month or so, and dialed in, and still getting sharper.

[Harry Palmer]

...and the current roster is better than the one that made that Super Bowl.

So if the 49ers make the Super Bowl it is because of the roster. If they don't make the Super Bowl it is because of Purdy?

If they make it he deserves credit, but it's not like it's something this team hasn't already done before.

I’ve given up convincing you, not even hordes of pro qbs saying he’s both very talented and very aggressive, nor the stats to back that up get you off your one note, but in passing I just thought I’d point something out; IF, as many who know more than you or I seem to think, if the Brees/Warner, not to mention Montana/Manning/Brady comps they are raising have any validity, your attitude seems to be that we should be making the same mistakes with Purdy that we made with Lance. Think about that for a minute.