2024 49ers Season

[Jikkle]

What do you guys think about picking up Daniel Jones? He's gotta be better than our backups, and challenge Purdy for reps.

Saw somewhere today the team that signs him would likely get a comp pick so I'd say go for it.

Though it depends on what his thought process is. Does he want to lay low as a backup for a year or two before making a push for a starting gig again or does he want a place with a more sure spot to start?

If I was Jones I'd probably look to sign with the Rams. Stafford's likely to retire in the next couple of seasons so you back up Stafford to learn the offense and when Stafford retires you step right in ready to go. Not to mention they are still in the middle of rebuilding the roster so you'll probably inherit a pretty good roster by that time as well.

[Jikkle]

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Sorta confirms what I had suspected in that those under the Shanahan tree are all having down years.

I suspected something was up with the YAC numbers and red zone efficiency plummeting with basically the same roster as last year. Yeah CMC makes a difference in the red zone but his absence shouldn't have tanked it to the point of going from 1st to almost the bottom of the league.

My takeaway is defenses have simply adapted to the offense and learned to counter it better. To me that's the only explanation that makes sense when you have all these guys struggling.

I'll echo what I've been saying but Shanahan is really going to have to go into this offseason and remodel this team because it's fallen behind in areas like the defense and special teams and starting to fall behind with the offense.

Need a soft roster rebuild, new defense, new special teams, and Shanahan has really got to get into the lab and do an autopsy of his offense and evolve it to counter the counters defenses are throwing at it. I think he needs an outside voice that specializes in the passing game because I feel the guys he has around him are there to just help him build what he wants and not really pitch anything disagreeable at him.

[Big J]

What do you guys think about picking up Daniel Jones? He's gotta be better than our backups, and challenge Purdy for reps.

Saw somewhere today the team that signs him would likely get a comp pick so I'd say go for it.

Though it depends on what his thought process is. Does he want to lay low as a backup for a year or two before making a push for a starting gig again or does he want a place with a more sure spot to start?

If I was Jones I'd probably look to sign with the Rams. Stafford's likely to retire in the next couple of seasons so you back up Stafford to learn the offense and when Stafford retires you step right in ready to go. Not to mention they are still in the middle of rebuilding the roster so you'll probably inherit a pretty good roster by that time as well.

Yeah, but if he comes here he could actually be insurance if Purdy tries demanding 60 million per. Jones physical tools are a lot better than Purdy’s. Imagine what Kyle could mold him into in our system.

[CrimsonCrew]

are we just tanking at this point?

We may be whether we want to be or not.....

[CrimsonCrew]

I'm down in the dumps about this team but I think our Super Bowl window closed with most of the vets we have, they are getting older and aren't getting better at this point. Only one who still is consistent is Kittle

we'll see, on paper there is no reason it should be closed after a soft reset this year, who in the NFC will be better than us next year? maybe Eagles or something but that's really about it.

Lions?
Besides getting Greenlaw back and some draft picks I am not sure we will be better on paper than what we are this year. Williams will be older and worse, Aiyuk will be coming off a huge injury, Deebo will be older and slower, Ward will be gone, Warner will be another year older. If we can somehow really beef up the OL I would like our chances more

Greenlaw is a FA. I hope we find a way to bring him back, but that's not a guarantee.

[wco81]

What do you guys think about picking up Daniel Jones? He's gotta be better than our backups, and challenge Purdy for reps.

Saw somewhere today the team that signs him would likely get a comp pick so I'd say go for it.

Though it depends on what his thought process is. Does he want to lay low as a backup for a year or two before making a push for a starting gig again or does he want a place with a more sure spot to start?

If I was Jones I'd probably look to sign with the Rams. Stafford's likely to retire in the next couple of seasons so you back up Stafford to learn the offense and when Stafford retires you step right in ready to go. Not to mention they are still in the middle of rebuilding the roster so you'll probably inherit a pretty good roster by that time as well.

Thing is, he had a serious neck injury and then ACL.

Whatever attributes made him a top 10 pick may no longer exist.

And his processing has always been questionable.

[CrimsonCrew]

What do you guys think about picking up Daniel Jones? He's gotta be better than our backups, and challenge Purdy for reps.

GTFO here, challenge Purdy for reps.

[CrimsonCrew]

What do you guys think about picking up Daniel Jones? He's gotta be better than our backups, and challenge Purdy for reps.

Saw somewhere today the team that signs him would likely get a comp pick so I'd say go for it.

Though it depends on what his thought process is. Does he want to lay low as a backup for a year or two before making a push for a starting gig again or does he want a place with a more sure spot to start?

If I was Jones I'd probably look to sign with the Rams. Stafford's likely to retire in the next couple of seasons so you back up Stafford to learn the offense and when Stafford retires you step right in ready to go. Not to mention they are still in the middle of rebuilding the roster so you'll probably inherit a pretty good roster by that time as well.

Yeah, but if he comes here he could actually be insurance if Purdy tries demanding 60 million per. Jones physical tools are a lot better than Purdy’s. Imagine what Kyle could mold him into in our system.

Not much if he can't read the field, throw accurate balls, or okay under pressure. None of which he has done to date.

[CrimsonCrew]

You would have been the guy calling for the Pats to draft Kyle Boller in 2003.

[Big J]

You would have been the guy calling for the Pats to draft Kyle Boller in 2003.

Purdy has looked a lot more like Kyle Boller this year than he has Brady.

[Pattersonca65]

Saw somewhere today the team that signs him would likely get a comp pick so I'd say go for it.

Though it depends on what his thought process is. Does he want to lay low as a backup for a year or two before making a push for a starting gig again or does he want a place with a more sure spot to start?

If I was Jones I'd probably look to sign with the Rams. Stafford's likely to retire in the next couple of seasons so you back up Stafford to learn the offense and when Stafford retires you step right in ready to go. Not to mention they are still in the middle of rebuilding the roster so you'll probably inherit a pretty good roster by that time as well.

Yeah, but if he comes here he could actually be insurance if Purdy tries demanding 60 million per. Jones physical tools are a lot better than Purdy’s. Imagine what Kyle could mold him into in our system.

Not much if he can't read the field, throw accurate balls, or okay under pressure. None of which he has done to date.

The board dimwit is a special kind of stupid. Now he thinks Daniel.Jones is better. He thinks Kyle can make any qb top ten

[Big J]

Yeah, but if he comes here he could actually be insurance if Purdy tries demanding 60 million per. Jones physical tools are a lot better than Purdy’s. Imagine what Kyle could mold him into in our system.

Not much if he can't read the field, throw accurate balls, or okay under pressure. None of which he has done to date.

The board dimwit is a special kind of stupid. Now he thinks Daniel.Jones is better. He thinks Kyle can make any qb top ten

He made Jimmy, Purdy, RG3 & Matty Ice look top 10. Jones has better physical tools than all but RG3.

[Pattersonca65]

Not much if he can't read the field, throw accurate balls, or okay under pressure. None of which he has done to date.

The board dimwit is a special kind of stupid. Now he thinks Daniel.Jones is better. He thinks Kyle can make any qb top ten

He made Jimmy, Purdy, RG3 & Matty Ice look top 10. Jones has better physical tools than all but RG3.

Jimny G was not top ten under any metric. RG3 was a one year wonder. Matty Ice was a good QB before Shanny. You have a dumb obession with physical tools and you ignore the mental.part of the game. Beathard was bad under Ahanahan. The QB before that had to be benched. Your hero with the physical tools Lance stunk

[RIPskaterdude]

No Trent today either. At least the team realizes the season is over

[Big J]

The board dimwit is a special kind of stupid. Now he thinks Daniel.Jones is better. He thinks Kyle can make any qb top ten

He made Jimmy, Purdy, RG3 & Matty Ice look top 10. Jones has better physical tools than all but RG3.

Jimny G was not top ten under any metric. RG3 was a one year wonder. Matty Ice was a good QB before Shanny. You have a dumb obession with physical tools and you ignore the mental.part of the game. Beathard was bad under Ahanahan. The QB before that had to be benched. Your hero with the physical tools Lance stunk

That's because Beathard sucks ass. Kyle makes average QB's look like top QB's. The only coach who can make trash QB's look average is Tomlin.

[Pattersonca65]

No Trent today either. At least the team realizes the season is over

Eccept it isnt just Beathard. Jimmy was middle at best. Lance sucked. You are way off. Tomlin is a qb coach now?

[Jikkle]

My only hope is this season is the jolt Shanahan needs to make big changes.

I don't blame Shanahan for staying the course since the team has been very successful the past few seasons but those issues that were just minor problems the past few years have evolved into major problems.

The issue I see with Shanahan is a problem with a lot of coaches is they start ahead of the curve, continue the course they are on, and before you know it they are behind the curve and instead of trying to look forward they look back.

Sorensen is the perfect example of this. Wilks was probably the wrong guy but he was the right idea and we moved on from Wilks because he didn't do things the way they were doing since 2016 which was why Sorensen was hired to go back to business as usual. Instead of continuing to try to move the defense forward by bringing in guys that could add some new wrinkles to the defense he went backwards and kept going with an aging scheme that was getting more and more exposed.

[Pattersonca65]

My only hope is this season is the jolt Shanahan needs to make big changes.

I don't blame Shanahan for staying the course since the team has been very successful the past few seasons but those issues that were just minor problems the past few years have evolved into major problems.

The issue I see with Shanahan is a problem with a lot of coaches is they start ahead of the curve, continue the course they are on, and before you know it they are behind the curve and instead of trying to look forward they look back.

Sorensen is the perfect example of this. Wilks was probably the wrong guy but he was the right idea and we moved on from Wilks because he didn't do things the way they were doing since 2016 which was why Sorensen was hired to go back to business as usual. Instead of continuing to try to move the defense forward by bringing in guys that could add some new wrinkles to the defense he went backwards and kept going with an aging scheme that was getting more and more exposed.

Is it the scheme or maybe Sorenson is not a good DC? Fangio has been around forever and the Eagles' defense is ranked #1. I dont think his scheme has changed all that much

[Jikkle]

My only hope is this season is the jolt Shanahan needs to make big changes.

I don't blame Shanahan for staying the course since the team has been very successful the past few seasons but those issues that were just minor problems the past few years have evolved into major problems.

The issue I see with Shanahan is a problem with a lot of coaches is they start ahead of the curve, continue the course they are on, and before you know it they are behind the curve and instead of trying to look forward they look back.

Sorensen is the perfect example of this. Wilks was probably the wrong guy but he was the right idea and we moved on from Wilks because he didn't do things the way they were doing since 2016 which was why Sorensen was hired to go back to business as usual. Instead of continuing to try to move the defense forward by bringing in guys that could add some new wrinkles to the defense he went backwards and kept going with an aging scheme that was getting more and more exposed.

Is it the scheme or maybe Sorenson is not a good DC? Fangio has been around forever and the Eagles' defense is ranked #1. I dont think his scheme has changed all that much

We'd certainly be a better defense if Saleh was in charge of it but I think our specific scheme has a major flaw in that it relies more on high-end talent to run rather than challenging offense mentally.

It's an amazing scheme if you have the pieces you need as we saw with Seattle's LOB era but sustaining that talent level is just not feasible as you saw Seattle's defense overtime erode to mediocrity year in and year out.

I just see the defensive meta being putting pressure on offenses mentally and we're probably the worse defense in the league at doing that. Don't need to blitz every play but you do need to put some stress on the offensive line to pick up the right guys and you need to give the QB some uncertainty about what they are seeing.

We get torched on 3rd downs because our defense is a straight 4 man rush that's easily blocked, drop 7 into coverage where they all sit in spots, and the QB completes a 10 yard pass because he knows exactly where the holes in the coverage are. Rinse and repeat over and over again.

When we do actually blitz we are terrible at because we likely don't practice it much. It's usually one extra easily telegraphed guy that quickly gets picked up and swallowed by the blocker. I mean how often do we actually get a free runner or how often does the offensive look confused as to what they are seeing out there?

[wco81]

Not only do the Chargers have a better record in Harbaugh's first season, Fangio has the Eagles as one of the best defenses, a huge turnaround in one season.

49ers fans well remember how much of a turnaround Harbaugh and staff had in their first season with the 49ers.

Not only did York screw up choosing Baalke over Harbaugh, he chose that mumbling idiot over Fangio. He could have retained a couple others from Harbaugh's staff.

49ers would still have a better chance now to win titles if they kept Harbaugh, got rid of Baalke.