2025 OFFSEASON

[clyde21]

What is the upside to cutting him now? Bring in another kicker to compete in training camp and let it play out.

because we've seen enough

Again, there is literally no upside to do it right now. I would rather wait and see, not sure if there are great alternatives out there or not. I still think that high ankle sprain he got last year messed with him quite a bit and I thought I saw some talk they brought him back probably a week or two early

upside? Who cares lol. the guy sucks and shouldn't be on the roster, and he'll just take a spot from someone else who should be competing for kicker. There is no scenario in which Moody should be on this team this season.

[Harry Palmer]

Re: Brock, he has very little incentive to play this year without a new contract. It wouldn't be worth the injury risk. You can bake that threat of no extension and two years of the franchise tag into the negotiations, but at the end of the day, the Niners don't have much power to force his hand. If he sits out five games, he doesn't take much of a hit in earnings, but he could completely derail the Niners' season. And they're still in win-now mode to a degree.

If Purdy is the team first guy that he claims to be then he won't derail the Niners season.

Don’t be ridiculous.

[Harry Palmer]

Hargrave never really worked out for us, but that doesn’t mean we won’t notice a pretty significant fall-off from him and w/e journeyman or rookie we slot in there. Ironically I think part of the reason he didn’t work out was Greenlaw not playing, I think it was envisioned at putting the OL in a pick your poison spot where the need to put more than one helmet on more than one guy or see Hargrave or Bosa beating single man or the LBs cut loose to fly at the ball. I kinda thought he’d be an obvious cut or renegotiation, but I was still thinking if they’re all healthy that’s gonna give teams problems.

But now they’re both gone so…but yeah, agree that Greenlaw is the biggest loss, both just in terms of his impact and the fact that we have no plan B that a contender with multiple other holes can rely on.

[Pattersonca65]

Re: Brock, he has very little incentive to play this year without a new contract. It wouldn't be worth the injury risk. You can bake that threat of no extension and two years of the franchise tag into the negotiations, but at the end of the day, the Niners don't have much power to force his hand. If he sits out five games, he doesn't take much of a hit in earnings, but he could completely derail the Niners' season. And they're still in win-now mode to a degree.

If Purdy is the team first guy that he claims to be then he won't derail the Niners season.

Don’t be ridiculous.

All he does is post ridiculous things

[Pattersonca65]

Hargrave never really worked out for us, but that doesn’t mean we won’t notice a pretty significant fall-off from him and w/e journeyman or rookie we slot in there. Ironically I think part of the reason he didn’t work out was Greenlaw not playing, I think it was envisioned at putting the OL in a pick your poison spot where the need to put more than one helmet on more than one guy or see Hargrave or Bosa beating single man or the LBs cut loose to fly at the ball. I kinda thought he’d be an obvious cut or renegotiation, but I was still thinking if they’re all healthy that’s gonna give teams problems.

But now they’re both gone so…but yeah, agree that Greenlaw is the biggest loss, both just in terms of his impact and the fact that we have no plan B that a contender with multiple other holes can rely on.

Hargrave was a poor run defender. I am not sure it will get much worse. We were hoping Greenlaw would come back but that was based on no teams taking a risk on signing Greenlaw to a multi year deal which Denver did.

[Pattersonca65]

49ers sign from Seahawks corner, Tre Brown. Not expecting much as a corner but could add to special teams.

[Cactus Jack]

49ers sign from Seahawks corner, Tre Brown. Not expecting much as a corner but could add to special teams.

Tre is depth. Not much more. Guy had a pretty rough year for them. Got benched.

[Pattersonca65]

49ers sign from Seahawks corner, Tre Brown. Not expecting much as a corner but could add to special teams.

Tre is depth. Not much more. Guy had a pretty rough year for them. Got benched.

I read that. Not expecting much. Cornerback like OL is a premium position in the NFL, If he was even average he would have been signed long ago. They are looking for special teams players too.

[CrimsonCrew]

I'm kind of baffled by the Floyd cut. We only save $1.5 million. It will cost more than that to replace him. He wasn't great, but he is a solid player who doesn't miss time to injury, and can be a valuable contributor and a part-time role. Given that we are so thin on the inside, and the fact that Gross-Matos could take some snaps inside on passing downs, it seems like this team would have been better in every case with Floyd on it.

[clyde21]

I'm kind of baffled by the Floyd cut. We only save $1.5 million. It will cost more than that to replace him. He wasn't great, but he is a solid player who doesn't miss time to injury, and can be a valuable contributor and a part-time role. Given that we are so thin on the inside, and the fact that Gross-Matos could take some snaps inside on passing downs, it seems like this team would have been better in every case with Floyd on it.

yea i don't understand it, kinda assumed it's to make room for Joey but that didn't materialize at all, so not sure what their thought process here was tbh.

[Pattersonca65]

I'm kind of baffled by the Floyd cut. We only save $1.5 million. It will cost more than that to replace him. He wasn't great, but he is a solid player who doesn't miss time to injury, and can be a valuable contributor and a part-time role. Given that we are so thin on the inside, and the fact that Gross-Matos could take some snaps inside on passing downs, it seems like this team would have been better in every case with Floyd on it.

I think you are right. He did have eight sacks last year. It seems like the season isn't just about the money, Lynch really meant it when he said this team is old and needs to get younger. Seems like they are all in on a reboot this year and going to take all their lumps this year. The team certainly doesn't appear to be in trying to compete this year and are banking on the draft to become competitive after this year.

[Pattersonca65]

I'm kind of baffled by the Floyd cut. We only save $1.5 million. It will cost more than that to replace him. He wasn't great, but he is a solid player who doesn't miss time to injury, and can be a valuable contributor and a part-time role. Given that we are so thin on the inside, and the fact that Gross-Matos could take some snaps inside on passing downs, it seems like this team would have been better in every case with Floyd on it.

yea i don't understand it, kinda assumed it's to make room for Joey but that didn't materialize at all, so not sure what their thought process here was tbh.

I almost think they want to purge the roster of older and expensive players and it feels while they always want to win are basically taking their lumps this season with an eye for the future.

[Harry Palmer]

Going to be interesting to see how the Kittle’s, CMCs and others who can least afford the wasted seasons react, but I guess they have largely chosen to do that with really high-character self-motivated guys.

[Pattersonca65]

Bosa was never close to coming to SF.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/joey-bosa-free-agent-contract/1834421/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2t1a3QnyFTd-0cqtUpSQ6ZQmWvE1V5puqGkX91P9qEa_3IIRZkZqQaHCI_aem_4d0ClTUKv2ZYRbfothTd6g

[Harry Palmer]

Trent might be the biggest shoe to drop. Not sure he’s going to be too enthused about spending his last year or two retooling.

[Pattersonca65]

Trent might be the biggest shoe to drop. Not sure he’s going to be too enthused about spending his last year or two retooling.

Maybe but he held out last year and got his money. I might have a bit more feeling for Kittle, a true team guy

[Harry Palmer]

Trent might be the biggest shoe to drop. Not sure he’s going to be too enthused about spending his last year or two retooling.

Maybe but he held out last year and got his money. I might have a bit more feeling for Kittle, a true team guy

Yeah, I think there a lot of realistic possibilities. Like I could see him deciding to take an off-year while the Niners contention does likewise, but coming back the year afterwards if we’re back. He’s such a unique guy it’s really hard to know what to expect. But quietly asking for a trade is imo definitely a possibility.

[arich35]

I don't think we are not going to be competitive. We haven't lost a ton from contributors last year, we need to hit on 3 or 4 draft picks that will be able to start like last year and last year's guys have to progress.

[Pattersonca65]

I don't think we are not going to be competitive. We haven't lost a ton from contributors last year, we need to hit on 3 or 4 draft picks that will be able to start like last year and last year's guys have to progress.

True but last season the 49ers were 6-11 so I am not sure last season is a good baseline

[CrimsonCrew]

I'm kind of baffled by the Floyd cut. We only save $1.5 million. It will cost more than that to replace him. He wasn't great, but he is a solid player who doesn't miss time to injury, and can be a valuable contributor and a part-time role. Given that we are so thin on the inside, and the fact that Gross-Matos could take some snaps inside on passing downs, it seems like this team would have been better in every case with Floyd on it.

I think you are right. He did have eight sacks last year. It seems like the season isn't just about the money, Lynch really meant it when he said this team is old and needs to get younger. Seems like they are all in on a reboot this year and going to take all their lumps this year. The team certainly doesn't appear to be in trying to compete this year and are banking on the draft to become competitive after this year.

The eight sacks probably don't accurately reflect his contribution. They were mostly of the clean-up variety. But there's still something to be said for playing hard through the whistle and being in the right place. He's not an impact player at this point, and he was probably overpaid (certainly $12 million for last season seems like an overpay), but there just isn't an appreciable benefit to cutting him. The savings were minimal, and he's off the books next year anyway. At least wait until we've added a replacement.