2022 Offseason thread

[thesack12]

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This is a pretty crazy stat.

Lets hope it actually translates to meaningful turnovers this season.

[Jikkle]

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This is a pretty crazy stat.

Lets hope it actually translates to meaningful turnovers this season.

It would be hard to do worse than the 9 INTs they had during the regular season last year and the killer thing with that number is the pass rush is great so it stands to reason we should've seen more.

Hopefully the new blood we have in the secondary and what looks like an even more potent pass rush will lead to more INTs.

[Samurai]

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This is a pretty crazy stat.

Lets hope it actually translates to meaningful turnovers this season.

It would be hard to do worse than the 9 INTs they had during the regular season last year and the killer thing with that number is the pass rush is great so it stands to reason we should've seen more.

Hopefully the new blood we have in the secondary and what looks like an even more potent pass rush will lead to more INTs.

At first glance, many of the picks this pre-season appear to be the result of a better pass rush. Getting pressure on the QB can make an average secondary look like a very good or even great secondary. This has been the Niners plan all along but the bust named Dee Ford and losing Buckner put a crimp in those plans. Hopefully with Bosa, Jackson, Ebukam, and Omenihu pressuring from the outside and Armstead, Givens and a healthy Kinlaw to give a stronger push on the inside we can get back to that elite pass rush again and let our secondary shine.

[Jikkle]

It's very early but so far this draft class is shaping up rather well.

Drake is trending towards being a steal
Gray looks like he'll have an impact
Burford and Womack both look like they'll be quality starters.

Not too shabby if all those guys pan out to be quality players.

[CrimsonCrew]

It's very early but so far this draft class is shaping up rather well.

Drake is trending towards being a steal
Gray looks like he'll have an impact
Burford and Womack both look like they'll be quality starters.

Not too shabby if all those guys pan out to be quality players.

Largely because of Covid, this was a really deep draft. A great draft to have lots of mid- to late-round picks, which is what the Niners had (obviously it would have been nice to have a couple higher picks, too....). The early returns are promising. Let's hope these guys can continue to play well.

[Jikkle]

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Good to see Kinlaw healthy and hopefully he can stay that way.

Gotta say I'm pretty excited about the defensive line this season.

Bosa seems like he's started to enter his peak
Kinlaw's healthy and if he can stay on the field he'll improve
Armstead is finally going to stay inside where he has his biggest impact
And everyone that could play opposite of Bosa has had positive reports.

Kinlaw has me the most intrigued though because has the most untapped potential and it would be huge if he at the very least could soak up blockers and free up guys like Bosa and Armstead.

[CrimsonCrew]

Re: the rookies, these tweets came out recently:

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Hitting on those mid-round picks is exactly what the Niners need to do after giving up so much to get Lance. They don't need those guys to be all pros - they have those guys in place on the roster already - but they need good, cheap starters who can play at the level of a solid starter on a playoff team.

[arich35]

Re: the rookies, these tweets came out recently:

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Hitting on those mid-round picks is exactly what the Niners need to do after giving up so much to get Lance. They don't need those guys to be all pros - they have those guys in place on the roster already - but they need good, cheap starters who can play at the level of a solid starter on a playoff team.

It also seems like Womack (5th round pick I believe) will be the starting nickelback

[Jikkle]

Re: the rookies, these tweets came out recently:

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Hitting on those mid-round picks is exactly what the Niners need to do after giving up so much to get Lance. They don't need those guys to be all pros - they have those guys in place on the roster already - but they need good, cheap starters who can play at the level of a solid starter on a playoff team.

It flies under the radar but that's a big part of why the Rams have been successful is they've gotten quality players with the picks they do have to fill in the spots where they don't have superstars.

Obviously the other big part is that the players they do trade for usually pay off for them so that helps a lot as well.

[Jikkle]

Re: the rookies, these tweets came out recently:

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Hitting on those mid-round picks is exactly what the Niners need to do after giving up so much to get Lance. They don't need those guys to be all pros - they have those guys in place on the roster already - but they need good, cheap starters who can play at the level of a solid starter on a playoff team.

It also seems like Womack (5th round pick I believe) will be the starting nickelback

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Can't remember where I heard it (think it was Middlekauf and Haberman) but I guess the regional scout covering his area was pounding the table for Womack.

So that guy might be due for a bonus or promotion if Womack continues to trend like he does.

[thesack12]

Obviously its way to early to get super excited, but all of Jackson/Gray/Burford/Womack have showed solid promise. Even UDFA Jason Poe has been impressive and its starting to look like not only will he make the team but he might even earn a starting role out of the gate. Even Jordan Mason, another UDFA, is looking like he can contribute.

Hitting on this year's rookie class would be a huge benefit, for the normal reasons of course, but also with 3 high picks of last year's class looking pretty bust-y at the moment.

2nd round pick Aaron Banks, has been incredibly underwhelming and is in the process of getting passed by a rookie UDFA
3rd round pick Trey Sermon has been downright bad, and is looking at possibly getting cut in favor of a rookie UDFA
3rd round pick Ambry Thomas has been mostly terrible, and Kyle insinuated yesterday that he is on the roster bubble

[CrimsonCrew]

If Poe ends up knocking off Aaron Banks, I'm going to be even more pissed than I already am that we took Banks over Creed Humphrey. A young interior of Poe - Humphrey - Burford would have had the potential to be really good for years.

Tough to get TOO excited about Poe at this point. He's still crazy undersized, and I felt like he struggled to block guys head-on in the run game last week. He's much better-suited to a zone scheme than a power scheme, but that's mostly what we run, so he could continue to make a case.

[CrimsonCrew]

Obviously its way to early to get super excited, but all of Jackson/Gray/Burford/Womack have showed solid promise. Even UDFA Jason Poe has been impressive and its starting to look like not only will he make the team but he might even earn a starting role out of the gate. Even Jordan Mason, another UDFA, is looking like he can contribute.

Hitting on this year's rookie class would be a huge benefit, for the normal reasons of course, but also with 3 high picks of last year's class looking pretty bust-y at the moment.

2nd round pick Aaron Banks, has been incredibly underwhelming and is in the process of getting passed by a rookie UDFA
3rd round pick Trey Sermon has been downright bad, and is looking at possibly getting cut in favor of a rookie UDFA
3rd round pick Ambry Thomas has been mostly terrible, and Kyle insinuated yesterday that he is on the roster bubble

Yeah, 2021's looking like a rough one - though Trey panning out would single-handedly make that draft. Really disliked the Banks and Sermon picks at the time. Didn't know enough about Thomas, but it seemed high for him.

[Pattersonca65]

Obviously its way to early to get super excited, but all of Jackson/Gray/Burford/Womack have showed solid promise. Even UDFA Jason Poe has been impressive and its starting to look like not only will he make the team but he might even earn a starting role out of the gate. Even Jordan Mason, another UDFA, is looking like he can contribute.

Hitting on this year's rookie class would be a huge benefit, for the normal reasons of course, but also with 3 high picks of last year's class looking pretty bust-y at the moment.

2nd round pick Aaron Banks, has been incredibly underwhelming and is in the process of getting passed by a rookie UDFA
3rd round pick Trey Sermon has been downright bad, and is looking at possibly getting cut in favor of a rookie UDFA
3rd round pick Ambry Thomas has been mostly terrible, and Kyle insinuated yesterday that he is on the roster bubble

Yeah, 2021's looking like a rough one - though Trey panning out would single-handedly make that draft. Really disliked the Banks and Sermon picks at the time. Didn't know enough about Thomas, but it seemed high for him.

I wanted to give Sermon another chance this year although when Shanahan used another third round pick on TJP that showed the 49ers did not have much faith Sermon was in their future plans. I taped the last game and watched Sermon runs. I really didn't see much if any improvement from last year. People were too quick to pencil in A. Thomas as a future starter at corner last season.

[CrimsonCrew]

Fortunately the team pursued Charvarius Ward in the offseason so we don't have to contemplate Thomas playing. He's got physical talent, just seems like he's a little in his head at this point. I'd like to see him get some more time before they move on from him, but solid chance he'd be safe on the PS, and if Lenoir is outplaying him, I think you've got to keep him.

I just hate using a second-day pick on a RB who isn't pretty special physically. The Niners are the case study for getting production out of unheralded RBs, but they keep using relatively high picks (and large FA contracts) on RBs even so. It's bizarre. Stick with the Mitchells, Breidas, and Masons of the world and you'll be fine. Throw the rest of the third-round picks at that interior OL....

[thesack12]

Jimmie Ward finds himself in a familiar place, after just being placed on IR.

He's now out for at least the first 4 games.

Safety, might be a problem

[thesack12]

Eagles cut Jaquiski Tartt.

He's not my favorite player, but 9ers can use some help at Safety and they could do worse bringing in somebody at this stage.

What do y'all think, bring back Butter fingers Tartt or just roll with Hufanga/Gipson/Moore/Odum until Jimmie Ward gets back?

[CrimsonCrew]

McGlinchey back at practice. Thank God.

[CrimsonCrew]

Re: Ward, I don't think he's on IR yet (do you have a link?). He's got be on the 53, then they'll move him to IR. If they put him on IR now, he's done for the season.

[thesack12]

Re: Ward, I don't think he's on IR yet (do you have a link?). He's got be on the 53, then they'll move him to IR. If they put him on IR now, he's done for the season.

Yes, you're right. I misspoke in that post a few days ago, I meant to say he's expected to go on IR after roster cut downs, he isn't actually there yet.

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/25/john-lynch-49ers-jimmie-ward-ir-hamstring-injury/

General manager John Lynch on Thursday ahead of the 49ers’ preseason finale vs. Houston said the team plans on putting the veteran free safety on injured reserve.

Ward will miss at least the 49ers’ first four games. They open at Chicago, then host the Seahawks before traveling to Denver then hosting the Rams in Week 4. San Francisco would miss Ward immensely in those games, so figuring out who will start in his stead will be one of their biggest priorities before the Sept. 11 opener.

Ward will be on the initial 53, then immediately get put on short term IR and they will likely re-sign somebody they just cut (maybe Taushaun Gipson) or they might sign Tartt at that time.