The Brock Purdy Thread

[Big J]

Might be time to kick the tires on Darnold.

[arich35]

Might be time to kick the tires on Darnold.

Still good with Purdy. He played well until the last two drives. He is young and will hopefully learn from these failures

[Big J]

Might be time to kick the tires on Darnold.

Still good with Purdy. He played well until the last two drives. He is young and will hopefully learn from these failures

He’s supposed to be known for his decision making ability, yet throws 2 boneheaded picks and was lucky he didn’t fumble early in the game. He got massively outplayed by Kirk Cousins who everyone here says he is better than.

[CrimsonCrew]

Not ready to give up on the kid yet, but he simply can't have mistakes like that. This game was there for the taking twice, and he totally blew it.

[arich35]

Might be time to kick the tires on Darnold.

Still good with Purdy. He played well until the last two drives. He is young and will hopefully learn from these failures

He’s supposed to be known for his decision making ability, yet throws 2 boneheaded picks and was lucky he didn’t fumble early in the game. He got massively outplayed by Kirk Cousins who everyone here says he is better than.

He didn't fumble to begin with, one he was down and he also threw the ball

2 INTs were just bad though. But I am still hopeful, I know you aren't

[Dodub]

The problem with Purdy is that he’s gotten away with reckless play since he came in. He’s had more missed interceptions than any QB I’ve ever seen. My biggest concern with him is that his luck would eventually run out like it did in college. I remember watching him in college and this just is who he is.

I’m hopeful that Kyle can give him easy stuff again once we’re at full power.

[Samurai]

Might be time to kick the tires on Darnold.

Still good with Purdy. He played well until the last two drives. He is young and will hopefully learn from these failures

He’s supposed to be known for his decision making ability, yet throws 2 boneheaded picks and was lucky he didn’t fumble early in the game. He got massively outplayed by Kirk Cousins who everyone here says he is better than.

And don't forget Purdy called for the all-out blitz with 16 seconds left in the half and Minny had 0 timeouts; just play back, tackle the receiver, clock runs out and we would/could have won the game. Clearly Darnold would have solved that for us so, yeah, let's give Darnold the next start.

[thesack12]

Yeah, its still entirely too early to write Brock off. That said, he's now stacked 2 negative outings in a row. Granted he played well tonight, up until the last 2 possessions. However, those last possessions were as bad as it gets. Both of those INT's didn't have a receiver in the vicinity and were just terrible decisions. Those types of back breaking, game deciding negative plays are the fastest way to lose your job.

[Big J]

He’s doing the exact same things Jimmy did. The 2 are eerily similar.

[CrimsonCrew]

He’s doing the exact same things Jimmy did. The 2 are eerily similar.

He absolutely did last night. But he hasn't really prior to that. He's been much more careful with the ball, though he does throw risky passes. Some of that is a product of his anticipation. When it works, it's great. But when teams disrupt the timing, because of when he's throwing it, it can be disastrous. We saw that with the first INT last night. He expected Jennings to be at a spot. Jennings got hung up and wasn't there. But the ball went there anyway. That will happen sometimes, but on those in-breaking routes in the deep middle, if the receiver isn't there, it's trouble.

I wouldn't want Purdy to change the anticipation. That's what makes him potentially special. Take that away, and he truly is just a guy. That said, teams may be catching onto him and trying to disrupt our timing routes more. He's got to show he can read the field on his own instead of just relying on Shanahan to scheme a guy open. His high ball to Kittle seemed like a case in which he locked in and didn't read the field as he should have.

This was a really, really frustrating game. It was there for the taking, and despite playing well most of the night, Purdy blew it in crunch time. We can't have that. He's got to show we can rely on him when the chips are down. He's still the guy unless and until it gets even worse (Darnold threw two INTs, took a pair of sacks, and fumbled twice on 15 attempts in his last regular season game), but he and the rest of the team have to get it together immediately.

[arich35]

For some reason this is the norm with Kyle's teams. People may forget we lost week 6 & 7 last year and were 3-4
2021 we lost 4 in row between Week 3-7 and were 2-6 after Week 7
Both those years we bounced back, played better and made it to the Conference game

Now we are 5-2 after Week 7, I think we will be fine. Team and Purdy will put in the work and turn it around

[Samurai]

Purdy played well enough to win; not great, not horrible. But our defense clearly did not. Even if we had won, it would have felt like a loss knowing our defense gave up 452 yards to a meh offense playing without their best player. We can still win games if Purdy continues this level, but not if our running game produces 65 yards (only 46 yards if you take out Purdy's 17-yard scramble) and not if our defense refuses to sack the QB and our secondary insists on giving up big cushions to wide open receivers. That is where we lost the game; Purdy didn't lose this game. I hate to think what Burrow and Chase will do to this inept defense next week.

[CrimsonCrew]

Purdy played well enough to win; not great, not horrible. But our defense clearly did not. Even if we had won, it would have felt like a loss knowing our defense gave up 452 yards to a meh offense playing without their best player. We can still win games if Purdy continues this level, but not if our running game produces 65 yards (only 46 yards if you take out Purdy's 17-yard scramble) and not if our defense refuses to sack the QB and our secondary insists on giving up big cushions to wide open receivers. That is where we lost the game; Purdy didn't lose this game. I hate to think what Burrow and Chase will do to this inept defense next week.

Purdy was horrible at the end. After three pretty strong quarters, including a nice quick drive to pull us within one score, he started pressing. He was forcing the ball in, made some bad throws, and the last INT was just an awful decision. He deserves criticism for it. Shouldn't have gotten to that point. If the D could have forced more than one punt, McCaffrey didn't fumble, Moody hit the FG...lots of ways we win this one without needing a fourth quarter TD - though the D also turned a likely 14 points into 6 with strong D in the red zone.

Defense on balance was worse than the offense. But neither stepped up the way we needed them to.

[Samurai]

Purdy played well enough to win; not great, not horrible. But our defense clearly did not. Even if we had won, it would have felt like a loss knowing our defense gave up 452 yards to a meh offense playing without their best player. We can still win games if Purdy continues this level, but not if our running game produces 65 yards (only 46 yards if you take out Purdy's 17-yard scramble) and not if our defense refuses to sack the QB and our secondary insists on giving up big cushions to wide open receivers. That is where we lost the game; Purdy didn't lose this game. I hate to think what Burrow and Chase will do to this inept defense next week.

Purdy was horrible at the end. After three pretty strong quarters, including a nice quick drive to pull us within one score, he started pressing. He was forcing the ball in, made some bad throws, and the last INT was just an awful decision. He deserves criticism for it. Shouldn't have gotten to that point. If the D could have forced more than one punt, McCaffrey didn't fumble, Moody hit the FG...lots of ways we win this one without needing a fourth quarter TD - though the D also turned a likely 14 points into 6 with strong D in the red zone.

Defense on balance was worse than the offense. But neither stepped up the way we needed them to.

I agree, but I'm looking at the entirety of his game and not just one or two plays. At the end, we were behind and the defense knew we had to throw every down. And with zero running game (other than Purdy's one scramble), we were forced into a pass-heavy scheme when Kyle prefers a more balanced approach. But we wouldn't have had any offense at all without Purdy since our running game was completely missing - looked like a combination of CMC being more tentative and our O-line incapable of opening a hole if their lives depended on it. But based on the entirety of the game, our defense laid an egg throughout, especially on third downs. Completely inept at getting off the field. It was far more than just one horrible play (call and execution) on the TD just before half - it was the entire game. Purdy's pick at the end was bad just as Ward's "I have a pick...oops its a TD" was bad before the half; but in its entirety Purdy was decent while our defense was terrible throughout.

[CrimsonCrew]

Purdy played well enough to win; not great, not horrible. But our defense clearly did not. Even if we had won, it would have felt like a loss knowing our defense gave up 452 yards to a meh offense playing without their best player. We can still win games if Purdy continues this level, but not if our running game produces 65 yards (only 46 yards if you take out Purdy's 17-yard scramble) and not if our defense refuses to sack the QB and our secondary insists on giving up big cushions to wide open receivers. That is where we lost the game; Purdy didn't lose this game. I hate to think what Burrow and Chase will do to this inept defense next week.

Purdy was horrible at the end. After three pretty strong quarters, including a nice quick drive to pull us within one score, he started pressing. He was forcing the ball in, made some bad throws, and the last INT was just an awful decision. He deserves criticism for it. Shouldn't have gotten to that point. If the D could have forced more than one punt, McCaffrey didn't fumble, Moody hit the FG...lots of ways we win this one without needing a fourth quarter TD - though the D also turned a likely 14 points into 6 with strong D in the red zone.

Defense on balance was worse than the offense. But neither stepped up the way we needed them to.

I agree, but I'm looking at the entirety of his game and not just one or two plays. At the end, we were behind and the defense knew we had to throw every down. And with zero running game (other than Purdy's one scramble), we were forced into a pass-heavy scheme when Kyle prefers a more balanced approach. But we wouldn't have had any offense at all without Purdy since our running game was completely missing - looked like a combination of CMC being more tentative and our O-line incapable of opening a hole if their lives depended on it. But based on the entirety of the game, our defense laid an egg throughout, especially on third downs. Completely inept at getting off the field. It was far more than just one horrible play (call and execution) on the TD just before half - it was the entire game. Purdy's pick at the end was bad just as Ward's "I have a pick...oops its a TD" was bad before the half; but in its entirety Purdy was decent while our defense was terrible throughout.

I generally agree re: not reducing a QB's performance to a handful of plays, but those two bad plays were huge. Agreed that Purdy had carried the offense to that point. But we also had only scored 17.

[Big J]

This game was a good example of why I've always seen Purdy as a middle of the pack kinda QB. He looks invincible when guys are taking swing passes & crossers 60 yards for TDs, but doesn't have the ability to to elevate the team when things don't go according to plan. We have seen the great QBs elevate their teams to wins when their defense isn't playing great. The last 2 drives Purdy was forced to put the team on his shoulders and get the win and he couldn't get it done. It's why having an elite QB isn't really that important in the regular season, but super important in the playoffs.

[CrimsonCrew]

This game was a good example of why I've always seen Purdy as a middle of the pack kinda QB. He looks invincible when guys are taking swing passes & crossers 60 yards for TDs, but doesn't have the ability to to elevate the team when things don't go according to plan. We have seen the great QBs elevate their teams to wins when their defense isn't playing great. The last 2 drives Purdy was forced to put the team on his shoulders and get the win and he couldn't get it done. It's why having an elite QB isn't really that important in the regular season, but super important in the playoffs.

Except he was making long throws for chunk yardage in this game. When we fell behind by two scores, he threw a beauty to Kittle for 28 yards. He had several nice throws to the deep area in this game, had a 17-yard scramble. Yes, he fell apart at the end, and he's got to fix that. But people are acting like great QBs never struggle. That's simply not true. All QBs go through growing pains. The great ones work through them. Will Brock? We'll find out. But it's premature to write him off based on the last two weeks.

[Big J]

This game was a good example of why I've always seen Purdy as a middle of the pack kinda QB. He looks invincible when guys are taking swing passes & crossers 60 yards for TDs, but doesn't have the ability to to elevate the team when things don't go according to plan. We have seen the great QBs elevate their teams to wins when their defense isn't playing great. The last 2 drives Purdy was forced to put the team on his shoulders and get the win and he couldn't get it done. It's why having an elite QB isn't really that important in the regular season, but super important in the playoffs.

Except he was making long throws for chunk yardage in this game. When we fell behind by two scores, he threw a beauty to Kittle for 28 yards. He had several nice throws to the deep area in this game, had a 17-yard scramble. Yes, he fell apart at the end, and he's got to fix that. But people are acting like great QBs never struggle. That's simply not true. All QBs go through growing pains. The great ones work through them. Will Brock? We'll find out. But it's premature to write him off based on the last two weeks.

I'm not writing him off, like I think he's going to be a bum or something. I think he'll be solid, a lot like the guy on the other team who massively outplayed him last night.

[arich35]

This game was a good example of why I've always seen Purdy as a middle of the pack kinda QB. He looks invincible when guys are taking swing passes & crossers 60 yards for TDs, but doesn't have the ability to to elevate the team when things don't go according to plan. We have seen the great QBs elevate their teams to wins when their defense isn't playing great. The last 2 drives Purdy was forced to put the team on his shoulders and get the win and he couldn't get it done. It's why having an elite QB isn't really that important in the regular season, but super important in the playoffs.

Sometimes I don't think you watch the games. Purdy doesn't just do swing passes and crossers all day, he throws 10+ yards a lot and doesn't at a high success rate.

[CrimsonCrew]

This game was a good example of why I've always seen Purdy as a middle of the pack kinda QB. He looks invincible when guys are taking swing passes & crossers 60 yards for TDs, but doesn't have the ability to to elevate the team when things don't go according to plan. We have seen the great QBs elevate their teams to wins when their defense isn't playing great. The last 2 drives Purdy was forced to put the team on his shoulders and get the win and he couldn't get it done. It's why having an elite QB isn't really that important in the regular season, but super important in the playoffs.

Sometimes I don't think you watch the games. Purdy doesn't just do swing passes and crossers all day, he throws 10+ yards a lot and doesn't at a high success rate.

Agreed. Until the Browns game, and for about three quarters of the Vikings game, he has been deadly in the 10-30 yard range. He has destroyed a lot of teams with those deep crossers to Aiyuk and Jennings. Teams may be adjusting to take those away, and we'll have to see how Purdy adjusts in turn. But it's not accurate to say he's delivering short, easy passes and his receiver are doing all the work. He's been very successful throwing deeper this year.