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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#581 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:48 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:Former LSU x-receiver claimed by the 49ers. Now he is Aiyuk replacement based on his specialty, unlike Toney.

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Yes, Marshall is a much better fit than Toney. Still a longshot. This is a guy who the Panthers cut. But maybe he needs a change of scenery.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#582 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:51 pm

Niners were able to bring Nugent and Pline back to the PS. That's good news. Pretty disappointed to lose Kingston and Schrader in particular (Graham, too, but having some time to think about it, it strikes me that we're deeper at and seemingly better at developing LBs than pretty much any other position). Especially as Guerendo is apparently injured again. Ugh.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#583 » by thesack12 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:51 pm

With the Aiyuk situation FINALLY resolved, all eyes are on the Trent Williams situation.

Currently, that front is not looking super promising.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#584 » by Jikkle » Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:48 am

thesack12 wrote:With the Aiyuk situation FINALLY resolved, all eyes are on the Trent Williams situation.

Currently, that front is not looking super promising.


I don't know because when you listen to Lynch talk about the Williams contract talks vs the Aiyuk contract talks he's always been more positive talking about the Williams' talks. Now that the Aiyuk talks are settled I wouldn't be surprised if Williams gets done here quickly.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#585 » by Harry Palmer » Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:06 am

Can we all agree that the next offseason where we have to resign someone important, we will stage a sit-in at the 9ers FO for every day that passes without the deal getting done? Pay a little more early than you think you have to…it’ll still be way less than our traditional ‘after the market has exploded’ signing timeframe, and we’ll all be a lot less stressed.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#586 » by thesack12 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:55 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:Can we all agree that the next offseason where we have to resign someone important, we will stage a sit-in at the 9ers FO for every day that passes without the deal getting done? Pay a little more early than you think you have to…it’ll still be way less than our traditional ‘after the market has exploded’ signing timeframe, and we’ll all be a lot less stressed.


Yeah, I don't know why the organization insists on waiting so long to put these kinds of things to bed. It sure doesn't seem like they save any money doing it. Maybe they have gained more advantageous team friendly language/structuring. I really don't know, but from a dollars standpoint, it doesn't seem like they have gained a lot.

Dragging the process out, also seems to have a negative effect on the player's performances that season. Deebo had a down year after signing, Bosa had a disappointing year after signing. We can only hope that Aiyuk can break that pattern.

Some of the Deebo/Bosa down years could be attributed to lack of continuity. The year Deebo extended was the season where there was a change at QB, and Lance ended up going down very early that season as well. The year Bosa signed, there was a new DC in place, who was also an outside hire. Bosa reported to the team only a handful of days before week 1.

With Aiyuk, there is continuity across the board. Same coaching hierarchy on his side of the ball, same QB, and pretty much the same surrounding cast overall. So hopefully, that will lead to a smooth and seamless ramp up period for him and he has a good season.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#587 » by WentzerWuver » Fri Aug 30, 2024 2:49 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Can we all agree that the next offseason where we have to resign someone important, we will stage a sit-in at the 9ers FO for every day that passes without the deal getting done? Pay a little more early than you think you have to…it’ll still be way less than our traditional ‘after the market has exploded’ signing timeframe, and we’ll all be a lot less stressed.


Yeah, I don't know why the organization insists on waiting so long to put these kinds of things to bed. It sure doesn't seem like they save any money doing it. Maybe they have gained more advantageous team friendly language/structuring. I really don't know, but from a dollars standpoint, it doesn't seem like they have gained a lot.

Dragging the process out, also seems to have a negative effect on the player's performances that season. Deebo had a down year after signing, Bosa had a disappointing year after signing. We can only hope that Aiyuk can break that pattern.

Some of the Deebo/Bosa down years could be attributed to lack of continuity. The year Deebo extended was the season where there was a change at QB, and Lance ended up going down very early that season as well. The year Bosa signed, there was a new DC in place, who was also an outside hire. Bosa reported to the team only a handful of days before week 1.

With Aiyuk, there is continuity across the board. Same coaching hierarchy on his side of the ball, same QB, and pretty much the same surrounding cast overall. So hopefully, that will lead to a smooth and seamless ramp up period for him and he has a good season.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#588 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:25 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Can we all agree that the next offseason where we have to resign someone important, we will stage a sit-in at the 9ers FO for every day that passes without the deal getting done? Pay a little more early than you think you have to…it’ll still be way less than our traditional ‘after the market has exploded’ signing timeframe, and we’ll all be a lot less stressed.


Yeah, I don't know why the organization insists on waiting so long to put these kinds of things to bed. It sure doesn't seem like they save any money doing it. Maybe they have gained more advantageous team friendly language/structuring. I really don't know, but from a dollars standpoint, it doesn't seem like they have gained a lot.

Dragging the process out, also seems to have a negative effect on the player's performances that season. Deebo had a down year after signing, Bosa had a disappointing year after signing. We can only hope that Aiyuk can break that pattern.

Some of the Deebo/Bosa down years could be attributed to lack of continuity. The year Deebo extended was the season where there was a change at QB, and Lance ended up going down very early that season as well. The year Bosa signed, there was a new DC in place, who was also an outside hire. Bosa reported to the team only a handful of days before week 1.

With Aiyuk, there is continuity across the board. Same coaching hierarchy on his side of the ball, same QB, and pretty much the same surrounding cast overall. So hopefully, that will lead to a smooth and seamless ramp up period for him and he has a good season.


Yeah, I posted a similar thing in the other thread. Obviously these contracts are full of details that the average fan will never know about, but it's sure tough as I sit here to understand what benefit the team derived from not doing this deal three weeks after the St. Brown deal. It certainly seems like they could have hammered out this same contract then, and at this point I have to fault the team for the delay. If they had gotten him down to $28.5/year or something, fine. But they basically gave him the St. Brown deal, which has been the benchmark for months. It has led to acrimony, might stymie Aiyuk's performance (and thus the offense's) this season, and for what? Just a real head-scratcher.

I really don't love how the FO approaches these things. They wait so long, and they still end up paying max deals every time. They are incentivizing guys to drag it out and apply pressure to them. Doesn't seem like a smart way to do business.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#589 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Aug 30, 2024 5:34 pm

Somehow I only just learned that Chris Foerster "resigned" from Miami because he recorded himself doing lines of coke before a meeting, sent it to his GF, and she outed him. Way to fail upward (though maybe not if you're into coke and have to leave Miami).
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#590 » by WentzerWuver » Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:58 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Somehow I only just learned that Chris Foerster "resigned" from Miami because he recorded himself doing lines of coke before a meeting, sent it to his GF, and she outed him. Way to fail upward (though maybe not if you're into coke and have to leave Miami).
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#591 » by wco81 » Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:35 am

Lot of these contracts seem like once in a career deals.

For instance, I can't imagine the 49ers extending Kittle, Deebo, Bosa, Warner, Aiyuk after these big extensions, certainly not at those annual average salaries.

Maybe another team will offer these players some short-term deals at low 8-figure salaries but not over $20 million per.

By the time their deals are over, they will be around 30 and have a lot of mileage on them.

They just gave CMC a couple of years of extension coming off an MVP-level season but he will be 30 in a couple of years too, an old age for a RB and probably too hold to be as productive as he was last season.


I don't know how easily the team replaces some of these weapons.

BA is their most successful WR pick under this regime. Kittle was a great find but it's unlikely to find another productive TE beyond the 3rd round now because teams seem to be using higher picks for the top TE prospects these ays.

But they've missed on so many RB prospects and they got CMC relatively cheaply, no first-round pick for a former #8 pick of the draft who has had an MVP level impact.

Warner was a great pick at his draft slot and obviously Bosa has been great but the team isn't looking to draft in the top 3 again for awhile.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#592 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:10 am

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#593 » by Big J » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:24 am

Jesus, what in the actual ****? Shot over a mother effing Rolex? Who does that?
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#594 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:25 am

Jesus Christ. Just give him the watch, man. You're worth millions.

Really hope he's okay, for him first, but admittedly the team second.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#595 » by Big J » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:31 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Jesus Christ. Just give him the watch, man. You're worth millions.

Really hope he's okay, for him first, but admittedly the team second.


As far as the team it didn't sound like he'd be contributing much his first year anyway, especially with Aiyuk coming back. Really sucks on a personal level though. Hopefully it's not career ending.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#596 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:36 am

Walked himself to the ambulance. Lucky dude. Someone please talk to him. If you're going to wear the bling, just let them take it

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#597 » by Big J » Sun Sep 1, 2024 1:46 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Walked himself to the ambulance. Lucky dude. Someone please talk to him. If you're going to wear the bling, just let them take it

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#598 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Sep 1, 2024 2:08 am

Wired even more differently more, what with the stitches. No watch is worth doing for.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#599 » by Harry Palmer » Sun Sep 1, 2024 2:27 am

I once had three crackheads try and jump me for my iPod and despite the fact that I would say exactly what you are all saying, in the moment I reflexively fought them. It happens so quick it’s not really like you’re thinking. Anyways, this **** snakebite off-season continues.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#600 » by arich35 » Sun Sep 1, 2024 2:29 am

Luckily he is okay. Dude can't catch a break to start his NFL career, seemed like he would finally be healthy enough to play in Week 1

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