2024 Off-Season

[Harry Palmer]

So looks like Trent might hold out into the season, which will cost him millions. Trent has been talking about retirement the last few years, and now the team has to depend on two bad tackles against the Jets.

Screw Trent. I'm usually pro player, but if he doesn't care about the team he can sit at home and eat the fines.

Yea Trent is pissing me off with holding us hostage. He should look at his penalties in the Super Bowl and quit being a pain. He hasn't made enough money in his career? Still pissed we didn't draft a Tackle to replace Mckivitz and eventually slide to LT.

It would seem pointless to extend BA because this season is our window but not Trent. And I am never sure why teams using their leverage is just good business/the way it works but players doing the same is immoral and equated with holding someone hostage. Especially in the NFL which is by far the most team friendly contract structure in major pro sports.

[Big J]

Screw Trent. I'm usually pro player, but if he doesn't care about the team he can sit at home and eat the fines.

Yea Trent is pissing me off with holding us hostage. He should look at his penalties in the Super Bowl and quit being a pain. He hasn't made enough money in his career? Still pissed we didn't draft a Tackle to replace Mckivitz and eventually slide to LT.

It would seem pointless to extend BA because this season is our window but not Trent. And I am never sure why teams using their leverage is just good business/the way it works but players doing the same is immoral and equated with holding someone hostage. Especially in the NFL which is by far the most team friendly contract structure in major pro sports.

At some point the team needs to put it's foot down or else every guy is going to want to restructure their contract. Take a stand on Trent and maybe less guys will try this.

[CrimsonCrew]

Yea Trent is pissing me off with holding us hostage. He should look at his penalties in the Super Bowl and quit being a pain. He hasn't made enough money in his career? Still pissed we didn't draft a Tackle to replace Mckivitz and eventually slide to LT.

It would seem pointless to extend BA because this season is our window but not Trent. And I am never sure why teams using their leverage is just good business/the way it works but players doing the same is immoral and equated with holding someone hostage. Especially in the NFL which is by far the most team friendly contract structure in major pro sports.

At some point the team needs to put it's foot down or else every guy is going to want to restructure their contract. Take a stand on Trent and maybe less guys will try this.

Trent is not the guy to make a stand with. He's been considering retirement. He's already a HOFer. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. And other than Purdy, he is the most important player on the team easily, given the dropoff between him and the next guy at the position. I'm sure he would like to add a SB title, but that's a crapshoot every year anyway.

Trent has leverage for days. If they were going to take a stand, it needed to be with McCaffrey or Aiyuk. Trent can single-handedly torpedo this roster's chances of a SB.

[thesack12]

It would seem pointless to extend BA because this season is our window but not Trent. And I am never sure why teams using their leverage is just good business/the way it works but players doing the same is immoral and equated with holding someone hostage. Especially in the NFL which is by far the most team friendly contract structure in major pro sports.

At some point the team needs to put it's foot down or else every guy is going to want to restructure their contract. Take a stand on Trent and maybe less guys will try this.

Trent is not the guy to make a stand with. He's been considering retirement. He's already a HOFer. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. And other than Purdy, he is the most important player on the team easily, given the dropoff between him and the next guy at the position. I'm sure he would like to add a SB title, but that's a crapshoot every year anyway.

Trent has leverage for days. If they were going to take a stand, it needed to be with McCaffrey or Aiyuk. Trent can single-handedly torpedo this roster's chances of a SB.

For sure, Trent holds all the cards here.

One encouraging thing is, he hasn't started to threaten retirement. At least not that we've publicly gotten wind of. So it seems that he still has desire and hunger to play. He just wants his contract to be restructured in a more favorable way towards him.

I read that he has like $0 guaranteed money remaining. That being the case, I can totally see why he's wants that contract to be redone. And as you mentioned he has more than enough leverage to use in order to get that taken care of.

In any event, they really need to figure it out and quickly. Having some random LT plugged in, is a recipe to get your QB killed and derail your season in the first couple weeks.

[CrimsonCrew]

If only someone had suggested they draft an OT over the past few years. Oh, wait:

From my 2024 draft review: Haven't had a chance to weigh on in the draft yet. Overall, in terms of the picks, I think it was a fine draft which I'll address in more detail below. Some picks I can quibble with, some I liked. It actually wasn't as bad as a lot of this FO's drafts in terms of head-scratching moves, but for the second year in a row, the failure to address OT is glaring.

From my 2023 draft review (on the Moody pick): There were tons of good players still on the board at positions of need. Any of the five guys who went after our back-to-back picks would have been much better picks. I was eyeing Blake Freeland, but only because I never expected Dawand Jones to still be available (didn't even look at Jones as I figured he'd be gone, and it's possible he's a terrible scheme fit at his size). We could have had either. I for one do not have our FO's faith in the OT position, and even if I did for next year, we need to start grooming a replacement for Trent. I don't think that player is on our roster right now.

From my 2022 draft review: I probably would have preferred Zach Tom to Spencer Burford, but I don't have nearly the grounding to weigh in on that. (Tom is GB's starting RT, 77.8 PFF grade on 1,068 snaps last year.)

[WentzerWuver]

If only someone had suggested they draft an OT over the past few years. Oh, wait:

From my 2024 draft review: Haven't had a chance to weigh on in the draft yet. Overall, in terms of the picks, I think it was a fine draft which I'll address in more detail below. Some picks I can quibble with, some I liked. It actually wasn't as bad as a lot of this FO's drafts in terms of head-scratching moves, but for the second year in a row, the failure to address OT is glaring.

From my 2023 draft review (on the Moody pick): There were tons of good players still on the board at positions of need. Any of the five guys who went after our back-to-back picks would have been much better picks. I was eyeing Blake Freeland, but only because I never expected Dawand Jones to still be available (didn't even look at Jones as I figured he'd be gone, and it's possible he's a terrible scheme fit at his size). We could have had either. I for one do not have our FO's faith in the OT position, and even if I did for next year, we need to start grooming a replacement for Trent. I don't think that player is on our roster right now.

From my 2022 draft review: I probably would have preferred Zach Tom to Spencer Burford, but I don't have nearly the grounding to weigh in on that. (Tom is GB's starting RT, 77.8 PFF grade on 1,068 snaps last year.)

https://youtu.be/I2Hhb5qHILs?si=zH3FZWCkDvsTMMZe

John Lynch should have taken Suamataia with their first round pick instead of a receiver regardless of the BA situation, so this is on him for not providing needed depth behind Trent unlike sport journalists and fans do by mocking OT for the team over l receivers. Wait until he ends up being the starter for the Chiefs near the end of the season due to injuries and be able to contain Bosa. This is on the GM if Jaylon Moore struggles against the Jets in week 1.

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/lists/2024-nfl-mock-draft-49ers-kingsley-suamataia/

https://youtube.com/shorts/NsC77k3ihPA?si=smwG1JkY42-Wbeg5

[CrimsonCrew]

If only someone had suggested they draft an OT over the past few years. Oh, wait:

From my 2024 draft review: Haven't had a chance to weigh on in the draft yet. Overall, in terms of the picks, I think it was a fine draft which I'll address in more detail below. Some picks I can quibble with, some I liked. It actually wasn't as bad as a lot of this FO's drafts in terms of head-scratching moves, but for the second year in a row, the failure to address OT is glaring.

From my 2023 draft review (on the Moody pick): There were tons of good players still on the board at positions of need. Any of the five guys who went after our back-to-back picks would have been much better picks. I was eyeing Blake Freeland, but only because I never expected Dawand Jones to still be available (didn't even look at Jones as I figured he'd be gone, and it's possible he's a terrible scheme fit at his size). We could have had either. I for one do not have our FO's faith in the OT position, and even if I did for next year, we need to start grooming a replacement for Trent. I don't think that player is on our roster right now.

From my 2022 draft review: I probably would have preferred Zach Tom to Spencer Burford, but I don't have nearly the grounding to weigh in on that. (Tom is GB's starting RT, 77.8 PFF grade on 1,068 snaps last year.)

https://youtu.be/I2Hhb5qHILs?si=zH3FZWCkDvsTMMZe

John Lynch should have taken Suamataia with their first round pick instead of a receiver regardless of the BA situation, so this is on him for not only providing depth behind Trent unlike sport journalists and fans do by mocking him for the 49ers than a receiver. I think he has elite potential at the pro level. Wait until he end up being the starter for the Chiefs near the end of the season due to injuries and be able to contain Bosa. This is on the GM, if Jaylon Moore struggles against the Jets in week 1.

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/lists/2024-nfl-mock-draft-49ers-kingsley-suamataia/

https://youtube.com/shorts/NsC77k3ihPA?si=smwG1JkY42-Wbeg5

Definitely should have taken him in the second instead of trading with the Chiefs of all people. And he's looking like he'll be the Chiefs' week one starter after a strong preseason.

[WentzerWuver]

If only someone had suggested they draft an OT over the past few years. Oh, wait:

From my 2024 draft review: Haven't had a chance to weigh on in the draft yet. Overall, in terms of the picks, I think it was a fine draft which I'll address in more detail below. Some picks I can quibble with, some I liked. It actually wasn't as bad as a lot of this FO's drafts in terms of head-scratching moves, but for the second year in a row, the failure to address OT is glaring.

From my 2023 draft review (on the Moody pick): There were tons of good players still on the board at positions of need. Any of the five guys who went after our back-to-back picks would have been much better picks. I was eyeing Blake Freeland, but only because I never expected Dawand Jones to still be available (didn't even look at Jones as I figured he'd be gone, and it's possible he's a terrible scheme fit at his size). We could have had either. I for one do not have our FO's faith in the OT position, and even if I did for next year, we need to start grooming a replacement for Trent. I don't think that player is on our roster right now.

From my 2022 draft review: I probably would have preferred Zach Tom to Spencer Burford, but I don't have nearly the grounding to weigh in on that. (Tom is GB's starting RT, 77.8 PFF grade on 1,068 snaps last year.)

https://youtu.be/I2Hhb5qHILs?si=zH3FZWCkDvsTMMZe

John Lynch should have taken Suamataia with their first round pick instead of a receiver regardless of the BA situation, so this is on him for not only providing depth behind Trent unlike sport journalists and fans do by mocking him for the 49ers than a receiver. I think he has elite potential at the pro level. Wait until he end up being the starter for the Chiefs near the end of the season due to injuries and be able to contain Bosa. This is on the GM, if Jaylon Moore struggles against the Jets in week 1.

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/lists/2024-nfl-mock-draft-49ers-kingsley-suamataia/

https://youtube.com/shorts/NsC77k3ihPA?si=smwG1JkY42-Wbeg5

Definitely should have taken him in the second instead of trading with the Chiefs of all people. And he's looking like he'll be the Chiefs' week one starter after a strong preseason.

Agreed but taken this OT on potential alone would still had garnered a higher grade by many than reaching for a receiver that would still be available even after Suamataia was drafted by the Chiefs. Lynch doesn't want to deal with the OT depth problem even if he had known Trent may retire until it actually happens. And by NOT drafting high OT prospects, Trent has more leverage. Most experienced FO personnel have a better understanding on critical needs than a first time GM, at the time, who is still treating the draft like a fantasy league.

[Harry Palmer]

My guess is due to the gunshot wound the 9ers will put Pearsall on the NFI list which means he'll be out 4 games but he won't count against the 53-man roster.

Edit: my god I chose my words poorly, but your guess was exactly right.

[Jikkle]

With the season a week away I'll throw out my random musings on the team.

Overall this is a better roster than the one that went to the Super Bowl last season and arguably almost every position group is better.

I'd say we're really only worse at LB due to the Greenlaw injury and even though he'll be back it's a question of at what level will he be back.

The elephant in the room is the offensive line and my prediction is it'll be the reason we fall short again this year. I'm assuming Trent will get figured out sooner rather than later and at least Puni might be a noticeable upgrade at RG but Brendal and McKivitz just aren't good and that's being nice. My only hope is Puni even with some likely rookie growing pains will raise the level of the guys around him. But if that Raider preseason game is anything to go by we're due for another year of McKivitz getting beat early and often by mediocre pass rushers.

I'm excited to see this defense though. Bosa and Floyd is the best pass-rushing duo since Bosa/Ford when the rare times Ford was on the field healthy that is. Also I do think the guys we added to the line will be an overall improvement to what we had last season. Seems like the secondary might not be a glaring hole like it has been in the past with the added depth and guys improving like Demo.

Sorensen is a big question mark since he's never been a DC before. I know he's going back to the Saleh/Ryans style of defense which I'm mixed on because sometimes I think it was simple to a fault.

My hope is we do more stunts up front as I think that was sorely lacking under Wilks where it seemed like we rarely did anything but basic rush 4 with the occasional blitz.

My second hope and the other thing besides the offensive line that annoys me to no end is they fix the 3rd down defense and play more man. We should do exactly what the Chiefs and Ravens do and have DBs beat up the WRs at the LOS and give the defensive line a chance to get home. I've said it somewhere else but we were one of the top teams in the league when it came to QB hits but way down the list when it came to sacks which means if the DL had a smidge more time we'd have more sacks.

I swear if it's 3rd and 6 and we continue to play defense like we're terrified the offense is all doing GO routes and throwing a Hail Mary you might see me on one of those Youtube videos where the fans flip out and break their TV.

[RIPskaterdude]

Trent is back!

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[WentzerWuver]

Trent is back!

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Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

[thesack12]

Trent is back!

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Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

Huh?

This can't be a serious post.

[thesack12]

Trent is back!

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Lets Gooooo!!!!!

[Harry Palmer]

Trent is back!

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Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

Leaving him out because of the added risk of soft-tissue injuries due to little prep time makes sense. Leaving him out so Saleh won’t get fired does not. Beyond the weird conspiracy angle, I’m sure Kyle would love to have Salah back as DC.

[Pattersonca65]

ugghh, I read the recent posts and I am reminded of the third round picks blown in Running Backs that are no longer on the team and other more pressing needs like OT that they could have taken a chance on.

[WentzerWuver]

Trent is back!

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Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

Leaving him out because of the added risk of soft-tissue injuries due to little prep time makes sense. Leaving him out so Saleh won’t get fired does not. Beyond the weird conspiracy angle, I’m sure Kyle would love to have Salah back as DC.

Just like you think Belichick didn't purposely lose big to Patricia to save his job yet still went on to win the SB that season Lol. The Niners' entire season is not dependent on beating a non-conference team in week 1 but on taking care of business against contenders within their conference.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/nfl-writer-believes-new-york-jets-robert-saleh-is-on-hot-seat

Selah's Jets are under scrutiny from the NY media spotlight with their HC on the hottest seat but the defensive players on this team has a soft spot for their former DC and would NOT make him look bad on Primetime, so they will not even sack ARod but wrap their arms around him like a bear hug and pat his back knowing that if he gets hurt in game 1 again, Selah is gone. You might not care but after Monday's defeat, you will remember this post that I was right all along.

[Harry Palmer]

Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

Leaving him out because of the added risk of soft-tissue injuries due to little prep time makes sense. Leaving him out so Saleh won’t get fired does not. Beyond the weird conspiracy angle, I’m sure Kyle would love to have Salah back as DC.

Just like you think Belichick didn't purposely lose big to Patricia to save his job yet still went on to win the SB that season Lol. The Niners' entire season is not dependent on beating a non-conference team in week 1 but on taking care of business against contenders within their conference.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/nfl-writer-believes-new-york-jets-robert-saleh-is-on-hot-seat

Selah's Jets are under scrutiny from the NY media spotlight with their HC on the hottest seat but the defensive players on this team has a soft spot for their former DC and would NOT make him look bad on Primetime, so they will not even sack ARod but wrap their arms around him like a bear hug and pat his back knowing that if he gets hurt in game 1 again, Selah is gone. You might not care but after Monday's defeat, you will remember this post that I was right all along.

No, no, I say they will lose because Kyle is secretly a pagan and does not want to win an unlucky number of games before the winter solstice. You might think this sounds crazy, but if they lose you will remember this post and realize that I was right all along!

[Samurai]

Trent is back!

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Good for Trent but I would still hold him out for week 1 to avoid risking injuries from being out of shape due to non practices and old. Besides, I think Kyle want his former DC to win this game otherwise he is good as canned this season. Even Belichick let his former DC Matt Patricia romp the Pats 36-10 on primetime MNF in order for him to keep his HC job for as long as he did.

https://youtu.be/NFI9FMOhQkM?si=5Sf6CsJAaJ6P7Guf

Kyle will do the same for Saleh and a home town kid who grew up a big fan of the red and gold in ARod. Any smart better would take the Jets on the moneyline for this game.

No way Kyle would do something to lose a meaningful RS game just to help out an opposing coach. And both Bosa and Aiyuk kept up their conditioning routines while they were holding out; why would Trent just sit on a sofa and eat ice cream instead? Sure his timing may be off as Bosa's was but a limited Trent is still a better player than a healthy Jaylon Moore.

[WentzerWuver]

Leaving him out because of the added risk of soft-tissue injuries due to little prep time makes sense. Leaving him out so Saleh won’t get fired does not. Beyond the weird conspiracy angle, I’m sure Kyle would love to have Salah back as DC.

Just like you think Belichick didn't purposely lose big to Patricia to save his job yet still went on to win the SB that season Lol. The Niners' entire season is not dependent on beating a non-conference team in week 1 but on taking care of business against contenders within their conference.

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/nfl-writer-believes-new-york-jets-robert-saleh-is-on-hot-seat

Selah's Jets are under scrutiny from the NY media spotlight with their HC on the hottest seat but the defensive players on this team has a soft spot for their former DC and would NOT make him look bad on Primetime, so they will not even sack ARod but wrap their arms around him like a bear hug and pat his back knowing that if he gets hurt in game 1 again, Selah is gone. You might not care but after Monday's defeat, you will remember this post that I was right all along.

No, no, I say they will lose because Kyle is secretly a pagan and does not want to win an unlucky number of games before the winter solstice. You might think this sounds crazy, but if they lose you will remember this post and realize that I was right all along!

Oh so that's how Kelce fell under the swifty spell and made her a love bracelet before ever meeting her?

https://youtube.com/shorts/G2Zz177yEjc?si=1t-BbDxFoZwYibv3

https://youtube.com/shorts/bNSBKxBMB3E?si=f8IsUrmb4pafqLVT