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thesack12 · Post #6441 » by **thesack12** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:29 am

Seattle could easily be 1-4 right now, but unlike Frisco they are super clutch on both sides of the ball

dr3am · Post #6442 » by **dr3am** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:38 am

I wouldn’t say Seattle is clutch, they’re just a lucky team. They’re not going to the Super Bowl though, I can’t see that style of play winning in a NFC Championship game

thesack12 · Post #6443 » by **thesack12** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:41 pm

dr3am wrote:I wouldn’t say Seattle is clutch, they’re just a lucky team. They’re not going to the Super Bowl though, I can’t see that style of play winning in a NFC Championship game

They used to be a lucky team a few years back. A couple notable examples being Blair Walsh shanking a chip shot FG as time expired that allowed Seattle to win that playoff game 10-9, and of course the "fail mary" against Green Bay.

However, last night is a perfect example of stepping up and being clutch in crunch time. The defense stiffened up and stuffed Minnesota on 4th and inches, if they Vikings convert that its game over. Then down by 5 with less than 2 minutes to go, Russ and Metcalf rocket the offense 94 yards down the field for the game winning TD.

Last week Miami was only down 17-12 in the 4th quarter and marching all the way into the red zone with a 1st and 10, Seattle's D stiffens up and forces the FG. Seattles offense then scores a TD, and on the next possession the defense picks off Fitzpatrick, game over.

Week 3, Dallas is down 28-30 but has a 1st and 10 at Seattle's 26 yard line with 5 minutes left in the 4th. Seattle's D stiffens again and forces the FG. Seattle down 31-30 with only 4 minutes left, march down the field 75 yards for the go ahead TD. Seattle's D then picks off Dak, game over.

Week 2, New England was down 35-30 but had the ball at the 1 with the best running QB the NFL has ever seen. Seattle's defense stuffs Cam, game over.

Do you see a pattern here, I sure do.

Giving Seattle props make me feel icky, but they have been nutting up on both sides of the ball in crunch time all season.

dr3am · Post #6444 » by **dr3am** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:01 pm

thesack12 wrote:
dr3am wrote:I wouldn’t say Seattle is clutch, they’re just a lucky team. They’re not going to the Super Bowl though, I can’t see that style of play winning in a NFC Championship game

They used to be a lucky team a few years back. A couple notable examples being Blair Walsh shanking a chip shot FG as time expired that allowed Seattle to win that playoff game 10-9, and of course the "fail mary" against Green Bay.

However, last night is a perfect example of stepping up and being clutch in crunch time. The defense stiffened up and stuffed Minnesota on 4th and inches, if they Vikings convert that its game over. Then down by 5 with less than 2 minutes to go, Russ and Metcalf rocket the offense 94 yards down the field for the game winning TD.

Last week Miami was only down 17-12 in the 4th quarter and marching all the way into the red zone with a 1st and 10, Seattle's D stiffens up and forces the FG. Seattles offense then scores a TD, and on the next possession the defense picks off Fitzpatrick, game over.

Week 3, Dallas is down 28-30 but has a 1st and 10 at Seattle's 26 yard line with 5 minutes left in the 4th. Seattle's D stiffens again and forces the FG. Seattle down 31-30 with only 4 minutes left, march down the field 75 yards for the go ahead TD. Seattle's D then picks off Dak, game over.

Week 2, New England was down 35-30 but had the ball at the 1 with the best running QB the NFL has ever seen. Seattle's defense stuffs Cam, game over.

Do you see a pattern here, I sure do.

Giving Seattle props make me feel icky, but they have been nutting up on both sides of the ball in crunch time all season.

Even with all you said idgaf, I’m never giving the Seachickens props, y’all can be in awe with what they’re doing & that’s perfectly fine, with me I don’t see them beating teams like the Saints, Bucs & Packers in the playoffs & I definitely don’t see them beating the Chiefs in the SB

dr3am · Post #6445 » by **dr3am** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:06 pm

And also we need to petition to ban that Seachickens troll Cactus Jack from coming on this board, stay on your dead Seattle board or the GB, nobody comes on Seattle’s board when they lose so stay your lame ass off here.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6446 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:17 pm

I honestly think that we would have won the SB had he been on the roster. Dumb ass chose the Jets instead of us

Report: Jets are trying to trade Le’Veon Bell:

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2038558

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6447 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:35 pm

LE'VEON BELL
RB, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

Chiefs agreed to terms with RB Le'Veon Bell, formerly of the Jets, on a one-year contract.

It's reportedly an "incentive-laden deal." Due to the league's COVID-19 protocols, Bell will be ineligible to suit up against the Bills on Monday. That leaves Week 7 against the Broncos as his Chiefs debut. The question immediately becomes the workload delineation in the Chiefs' backfield, as No. 32 overall pick Clyde Edwards-Helaire has sputtered since an impressive opener vs. the Texans' bottom-basement run defense. That has been especially true in early-down/short-yardage situations, where Bell figures to receive immediate opportunities. Bell will also be a threat to CEH's bread-and-butter pass-catching work. Even if CEH remains the lead back in a committee, this obviously devastates his RB1 value, and perhaps even knocks him out of the RB2 ranks. This is not a LeSean McCoy-style signing. Bell probably has more left in the tank than Adam Gase would lead you to believe, while coach Andy Reid unlocks running backs like few others. Bell could claim No. 1 duties and render CEH a COP back. CEH would do well to put on a show vs. the Bills' underachieving defense. Bell arrives right as the Chiefs are losing LG Kelechi Osemele for the season.
SOURCE: ESPN

Oct 15, 2020, 6:49 PM ET

CrimsonCrew · Post #6448 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:01 pm

Really hurts CEH's fantasy value. He may not get another touch inside the 10 this year. Missed that they had lost Osemele. That's gonna hurt.

dr3am · Post #6449 » by **dr3am** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:02 pm

Adding insult to injury Bell signs with the Chiefs... No way they’re not repeating now SmH.

CrimsonCrew · Post #6450 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:09 pm

dr3am wrote:Adding insult to injury Bell signs with the Chiefs... No way they’re not repeating now SmH.

Losing Osemele hurts more than getting Bell IMO. Unless Bell was just totally dogging it on the Jets.

wco81 · Post #6451 » by **wco81** » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:04 pm

AJ Brown looks like a prototypical #1 WR.

Looks like Andre Johnson in his heyday.

dr3am · Post #6452 » by **dr3am** » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 pm

How did the Eagles come back like that on the Ravens...

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6453 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:45 am

wco81 wrote:AJ Brown looks like a prototypical #1 WR.

Looks like Andre Johnson in his heyday.

I keep saying we should have drafted either him or D.K. last year instead of Deebo.

dr3am · Post #6454 » by **dr3am** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:51 am

Deebo > DK & AJ Brown

wco81 · Post #6455 » by **wco81** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:14 am

Well he racked up a some big gains in the end around where he runs between the line and Jimmy and Jimmy flips the ball forward to him when they're like a foot apart.

That's a pass and reception!

Yes it's a modified shuffle pass.

I don't know if those bigger WRs can make those kinds of plays, running among the linemen in tight spaces, going east-west rather than vertically.

But those bigger WRs can get downfield and in the red zone, get up for those 50-50 balls and usually win.

But hey if we can get Deebo running and receiving TDs inside the 10 consistently with these kinds of plays, it's all good.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6456 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:19 pm

dr3am wrote:Deebo > DK & AJ Brown

Dodub · Post #6457 » by **Dodub** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:53 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
dr3am wrote:Deebo > DK & AJ Brown

I prefer Deebo for what we do on offense. He’s pretty much tailor made for Kyle.

dr3am · Post #6458 » by **dr3am** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:32 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
dr3am wrote:Deebo > DK & AJ Brown

Come on man, let’s not forget DK has a far superior QB throwing to him than Deebo with Jimmy G... I’m pretty sure if you put Deebo with Wilson he will be getting the same stats as Metcaf. DK just has a bigger body.

Also I’m not on the AJ Brown wagon yet...

Post #6459 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 pm

dr3am wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
dr3am wrote:Deebo > DK & AJ Brown

Come on man, let’s not forget DK has a far superior QB throwing to him than Deebo with Jimmy G... I’m pretty sure if you put Deebo with Wilson he will be getting the same stats as Metcaf. DK just has a bigger body.

Also I’m not on the AJ Brown wagon yet...

They're completely different players/skillsets. Deebo is great in space (YAC). A bigger Percy Harvin imo. Perfect for that offense.

DK is a physical freak (Julio build). He's big, fast. Can hurt you over the top. A better route runner than is given credit for. A Redzone target. Just a huge mismatch for anyone.

I really like AJ. Funny thing is that he & DK are best friends (Ole Miss teammates). I would have been happy with either player honestly.

CrimsonCrew · Post #6460 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:17 pm

Both Deebo and DK fit the offenses they play in, and they're dramatically different players, so it's hard to compare them. DK would be wasted on our roster. He's at his best going deep and using his size and speed to make plays down the field. Garoppolo can't make those throws. Wilson is one of the best in the league (maybe the best) at making them. Deebo is great with the ball in his hands, but he's not the downfield receiver DK is - or at least he hasn't shown it because we haven't asked him to do it.

For me, the only reason I was frustrated with the Deebo pick is because I thought we could trade back and still get either him or AJ Brown. And we could have. I haven't watched a ton of Brown, but my sense is that he could do all the gimmick stuff that Deebo does, but is somewhat better as a traditional receiver. Again, it's somewhat hard to say that given the offenses they play in, but those two are much more similar as players. And at the time of the draft, I had a slight preference for Brown. Though Deebo might have a little more wiggle.