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Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6461 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:52 pm

Let's trade them Dante Pettis for Ross. If they don't want a straight up deal for Pettis, we can offer them a 7th round pick. Ross can be that special team ace that we've been missing for years.

John Ross
WR, Cincinnati Bengals

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports John Ross' agent, Brad Cicala, and the Bengals have discussed a potential trade before the November 3 deadline.

The talks apparently didn't "get too far." Ross was activated on Sunday but only played a single snap and didn't record a target. It's clear the organization has mentally moved on from the 24-year-old after declining his fifth-year option over the summer and benching him in Week 2 following a dropped pass. Ross needs a fresh start to have any fantasy value moving forward.
Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

Oct 20, 2020, 9:48 AM ET

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6462 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:38 pm

Washington’s Joshua Garnett Retires From NFL

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/washingtons-joshua-garnett-retires-from-nfl

thesack12 · Post #6463 » by **thesack12** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:20 pm

Read on Twitter

Who knows where his head is at, and how he will perform.

I'm glad Seattle didn't sign him. He still oozes talent.

thesack12 · Post #6464 » by **thesack12** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:27 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Washington’s Joshua Garnett Retires From NFL

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/washingtons-joshua-garnett-retires-from-nfl

Not sure what was worse, trading up into the 1st round to take Garnett in 2016 or trading up into the 1st round to take Foster in 2017.

Both proved to be horrendous decisions.

dr3am · Post #6465 » by **dr3am** » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:29 pm

I’m so glad Brown signed with the Bucs, way to stick it to Seattle & his bff Wilson :lol:

CrimsonCrew · Post #6466 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:28 am

thesack12 wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Washington’s Joshua Garnett Retires From NFL

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/10/washingtons-joshua-garnett-retires-from-nfl

Not sure what was worse, trading up into the 1st round to take Garnett in 2016 or trading up into the 1st round to take Foster in 2017.

Both proved to be horrendous decisions.

Garnett was much worse. He was a huge reach, and didn't fit our scheme at the time at all. Foster was a major risk, but talent-wise, he was a great value. Maybe not worth the risk, but at least he had the talent.

thesack12 · Post #6467 » by **thesack12** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:12 pm

Man, Atlanta gonna Atlanta.

They are absolute maestros in the art of choking games away

wco81 · Post #6468 » by **wco81** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:45 am

Well the 49ers needed the Seahawks to come back a little to the rest of the division but I’d prefer not to face them after they lose, especially the way they lost.

Probably pissed, because they went conservative at the end and left enough time for Ariz to come back and force OT. They should have put the game away in regulation By getting those first downs instead of going conservative.

They got so much explosive playmakers that the 49ers game plan has to be ball control but not clear who’s going o be available at running back or if Debo will play.

CrimsonCrew · Post #6469 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:26 am

Yeah, probably better in all ways for the Hawks to have won that one (Hawks less fired up for next week, Niners probably can't catch them in the division anyway), but I still can't root for Seattle. And I don't think they're really all that good. They've had a boat load of close games. Russ is incredible, and the WRs are maybe the best duo in the league, but that D is in trouble, and the OL still isn't very good. Next week is winnable, but I don't know if the Niners have enough healthy bodies to pull it off. Garoppolo needs to be flawless, probably.

dr3am · Post #6470 » by **dr3am** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Actually Niners still have a slim possibility of catching the Chickens if they were to run the table & Seattle struggles badly against the Rams (got lucky @ home last year with the Rams kicker missing the Game winning FG) & I can’t forget about the Cards smacking them in Century Link Field last year... If we beat the Chickens next weekend then Seattle will be 5-2 but at the same time they own us & with no Deebo Jimmy as you said will have to be flawless, odds of that is not happening tho..

thesack12 · Post #6471 » by **thesack12** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:46 pm

I agree while it was probably better for Frisco if Seattle won last night, fortunately it didn't end in a tie.

An in-division tie would be been bad news all the way around for the 9ers playoff hopes.

thesack12 · Post #6472 » by **thesack12** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:59 pm

The deep ball is going to be a scary proposition going into Seattle next week. Russ is excellent slinging it deep and both DK and Lockett can feast out there.

Its no secret that this current form of the 49ers D line can't generate a pass rush to save their life, so we know Wilson is going to have plenty of time to allow the deep downfield stuff to develop. So we better hope that the coverage can consistently hold.

Even if the coverage shows it can hold up, its also no secret that 9ers are quite vulnerable to getting gashed by QB's legs. Obviously, Wilson also excels in that regard.

The deep ball threat, lack of a pash rush, and Wilson's running ability is a really scary combination. Even if Saleh sends blitzers, they sure as hell better get to Wilson fast and get him on the ground or force him to get rid of the ball, because if not the coverage is gonna fail or Wilson is gonna chew up chunk yardage with his legs with the middle of the field open.

As mentioned earlier, Jimmy and the offense are going to need to be on point because Seattle is going to score points. The problem is 9ers will be down to their 4th string RB and likely be down to only 2 viable WRs again (Aiyuk, Bourne.)

Probably going to need the defense to force a turnover or 2, and need to get a lift from special teams in order to come out with the win.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6473 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:47 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
dr3am wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:

Come on man, let’s not forget DK has a far superior QB throwing to him than Deebo with Jimmy G... I’m pretty sure if you put Deebo with Wilson he will be getting the same stats as Metcaf. DK just has a bigger body.

Also I’m not on the AJ Brown wagon yet...

They're completely different players/skillsets. Deebo is great in space (YAC). A bigger Percy Harvin imo. Perfect for that offense.

DK is a physical freak (Megatron build). He's big, fast. Can hurt you over the top. A better route runner than is given credit for. A Redzone target. Just a huge mismatch for anyone.

I really like AJ. Funny thing is that he & DK are best friends (Ole Miss teammates). I would have been happy with either player honestly.

A.J. BROWN
WR, TENNESSEE TITANS

A.J. Brown caught 6-of-8 targets for 153 yards and a touchdown in the Titans' Week 7 loss to the Steelers.

Brown remains one of the NFL's top playmakers at receiver. After a two-touchdown game last week, Brown ripped off a 72-yard score after catching a pass over the middle. There are few players who can match Brown's size and speed combination. Despite seeing 1-2 fewer targets per game than others ranked near him, Brown is fully entrenched into WR2 fantasy rankings regardless of matchup.

Oct 25, 2020, 4:57 PM ET

wco81 · Post #6474 » by **wco81** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:25 pm

Man the scouts must have slept on Old Miss WRs that year.

CrimsonCrew · Post #6475 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:42 pm

I can't see how. Loads of people on this board loved both those guys, and several - myself included - wanted Brown over Samuel.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6476 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:46 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:I can't see how. Loads of people on this board loved both those guys, and several - myself included - wanted Brown over Samuel.

The crazy thing is, if I remember correctly, not one of us said anything negative about Deebo in regard to his skill set. I compared him to Golden Tate. I think everyone seemed to like him as a player. I’m saying that just to say: I don’t want people to confuse or misinterpret my love for DK and AJ as me saying that I disliked Deebo as a prospect. The only thing I’m saying is that those other two receivers were simply better than he was coming out (it was undeniably clear).

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6477 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:09 pm

Quinnen Williams on the trading block:

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-quinnen-williams-nfl-trade-deadline-20201027-qgms2fd2njbhxnkxa2cmaafqnm-story.html?outputType=amp

wco81 · Post #6478 » by **wco81** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:59 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Quinnen Williams on the trading block:

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-quinnen-williams-nfl-trade-deadline-20201027-qgms2fd2njbhxnkxa2cmaafqnm-story.html?outputType=amp

It doesn't sound like Williams has set the league on fire in pass rush.

Is that worth $10 million a year and then the 49ers likely not going to sign him to an extension since Bosa will be up at the same time?

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #6479 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:22 pm

wco81 wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Quinnen Williams on the trading block:

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-quinnen-williams-nfl-trade-deadline-20201027-qgms2fd2njbhxnkxa2cmaafqnm-story.html?outputType=amp

It doesn't sound like Williams has set the league on fire in pass rush.

Is that worth $10 million a year and then the 49ers likely not going to sign him to an extension since Bosa will be up at the same time?

I live in the NY/NJ area, so I tend to get a lot of Giants & Jets games, which means I get the chance to see both of these bad teams play on any given Sunday. Williams has been very solid for them. Do not let the numbers (lack of stats) mislead you to think that he has not been a disruptive player for them.

To answer your last question, if we had the audacity to give a 2nd round pick for Sanders and then not even entertain the idea of signing him to a long term deal after the season, then based on our pass actions, Quinnen is well worth it. Think about it... He'd be under contract for 2 more years at minimum at his current rookie contract; we'd evaluate him at that point and determine whether or not we should exercise his 5th year option, which would then make it a total of 3 years playing for us. That's enough time for us to further evaluate him and see if we have enough cap space to sign him to a long term lucrative contract.

CrimsonCrew · Post #6480 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:44 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:I can't see how. Loads of people on this board loved both those guys, and several - myself included - wanted Brown over Samuel.

The crazy thing is, if I remember correctly, not one of us said anything negative about Deebo in regard to his skill set. I compared him to Golden Tate. I think everyone seemed to like him as a player. I’m saying that just to say: I don’t want people to confuse or misinterpret my love for DK and AJ as me saying that I disliked Deebo as a prospect. The only thing I’m saying is that those other two receivers were simply better than he was coming out (it was undeniably clear).

Yeah, I liked Deebo quite a bit. I just wanted them to trade back and ideally take Brown. Both are good players, but I think it's pretty clear Brown is the better talent. He could do most if not all of what Deebo does, and is the better pure receiver.