The Brock Purdy Thread

[arich35]

Purdy is the first QB in franchise history with a perfect passer rating throwing 20+ times

[Samurai]

Purdy is the first QB in franchise history with a perfect passer rating throwing 20+ times

Pretty sure that a certain poster will argue that ANYONE could have a perfect passer rating with these weapons. Heck, he might even argue that a QB who is taller with a stronger arm would probably have a HIGHER THAN PERFECT rating.

[Jikkle]

Purdy is the first QB in franchise history with a perfect passer rating throwing 20+ times

The only thing he really lacks is some signature wins.

That's not to take anything away from him but he needs to grind out some tough wins and play well against the top-tier teams. That's not to say he hasn't beaten good teams or to move goalposts but I don't consider the Jags or Cowboys strong SB favorites right now as I feel they are both more paper tiger than actual tigers.

I really think he needs that win in Philly to really ease the remaining doubt that surrounds him. Or at least play well enough to win the game as I'm not going to rake him over the coals if we score a go-ahead TD towards the end of the game and the defense lets Philly score with a walk-off win.

[CharityStripe34]

Purdy is the first QB in franchise history with a perfect passer rating throwing 20+ times

The only thing he really lacks is some signature wins.

That's not to take anything away from him but he needs to grind out some tough wins and play well against the top-tier teams. That's not to say he hasn't beaten good teams or to move goalposts but I don't consider the Jags or Cowboys strong SB favorites right now as I feel they are both more paper tiger than actual tigers.

I really think he needs that win in Philly to really ease the remaining doubt that surrounds him. Or at least play well enough to win the game as I'm not going to rake him over the coals if we score a go-ahead TD towards the end of the game and the defense lets Philly score with a walk-off win.

He'll have his comeback moment at some point. Kid plays well and never seems panicked, even when mqking errant throws.

Meanwhile ESPN really just had a "Himmy Awards" segment tease. Good lord that's so cheesy.

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[Pattersonca65]

https://www.ninersnation.com/2023/11/21/23970837/kyle-shanahan-brock-purdy-jimmy-garoppolo-49ers

[arich35]

Love watching the break downs from O'Sullivan. Please go to the 18:30 mark on this video, it is the exact reason why Purdy is so good. There just aren't many if any QBs that can make that throw with that much anticipation

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[zman1]

Purdy currently has the highest completion percentage AND the YPA. Those two should not go together. Amazing.

I am very impressed with our passing game when I watch other teams. I see so many teams with a full dropback only to throw a 3 yard pass with no YAC potential. We rarely do that.

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[CharityStripe34]

Steve Young talked about his great processing and accuracy, which also shows great awareness of his own capabilities. He knows he doesn't have a cannon arm, so he clearly has to be more anticipatory with his approach.

[Harry Palmer]

Steve Young talked about his great processing and accuracy, which also shows great awareness of his own capabilities. He knows he doesn't have a cannon arm, so he clearly has to be more anticipatory with his approach.

His mph aren’t slow at all. I think really it’s more small hands means he cannot spontaneously chuck it 70 yards, but he throws a lot of speeds, and we’ve seen him throw bullets when required. But the other part is this is the only arm he’s ever had, so it’s imo not really about compensating, it’s just how he has learned to throw. I also think a hidden advantage of his college career was extensive playing time without the surrounding talent ~ 4 year starters normally have. So his idea of ‘open’ was probably a lot closer to NFL standards than guys from powerhouses who only have to worry about throwing people open in a few games a year. Because of that he came to the league with a wider array of pitches, if you like. He can layer it over or zip it in, he can throw on the move, he can make subtle pockets adjustments or evade the rush and his eyes stay downfield. I think we got really, really lucky here.

[CharityStripe34]

Steve Young talked about his great processing and accuracy, which also shows great awareness of his own capabilities. He knows he doesn't have a cannon arm, so he clearly has to be more anticipatory with his approach.

His mph aren’t slow at all. I think really it’s more small hands means he cannot spontaneously chuck it 70 yards, but he throws a lot of speeds, and we’ve seen him throw bullets when required. But the other part is this is the only arm he’s ever had, so it’s imo not really about compensating, it’s just how he has learned to throw. I also think a hidden advantage of his college career was extensive playing time without the surrounding talent ~ 4 year starters normally have. So his idea of ‘open’ was probably a lot closer to NFL standards than guys from powerhouses who only have to worry about throwing people open in a few games a year. Because of that he came to the league with a wider array of pitches, if you like. He can layer it over or zip it in, he can throw on the move, he can make subtle pockets adjustments or evade the rush and his eyes stay downfield. I think we got really, really lucky here.

I agree, his arm-strength is fine if unspectacular. He also has excellent touch and can layer his throws based on routes, distance and speed of his receiving targets. It's part of the "elite processing" that Steve Young mentioned on the Dan Patrick Show.

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[Samurai]

The TD pass to Aiyuk against Seattle may have been Purdy's best pass so far, certainly right up there with the bomb to Kittle against the Jags in a collapsing pocket and the bomb to Aiyuk against the Bucs. The play was designed to go through his progressions but the ideal option was Woerner wide open as the checkdown option; could have picked up the first down fairly easily. Shanahan clearly did not expect him to go to Aiyuk as the deep option since the safety (Diggs) was deep in the middle. The pass would have to be perfect - hard enough to beat the corner (Weatherspoon) who was a step behind Aiyuk but soft enough to float it over the safety (Diggs). In all, there were 4 Seahawks forming a box around Aiyuk. And Purdy made the absolute perfect pass. The prudent, conservative approach would be to take the sure thing underneath on the checkdown; we've all seen Jimmy G take that option every time. But Purdy isn't Jimmy G; if he feels he can take that deep shot, he "lets it rip" as he put it after the game. Shanahan said everyone on the sidelines held their collective breath when the ball was in the air since they all saw the safety deep. But Purdy saw the safety as well and decided to let it rip. Maybe Aiyuk put it best when he just said "that's what you call A DOT!"

[Harry Palmer]

The TD pass to Aiyuk against Seattle may have been Purdy's best pass so far, certainly right up there with the bomb to Kittle against the Jags in a collapsing pocket and the bomb to Aiyuk against the Bucs. The play was designed to go through his progressions but the ideal option was Woerner wide open as the checkdown option; could have picked up the first down fairly easily. Shanahan clearly did not expect him to go to Aiyuk as the deep option since the safety (Diggs) was deep in the middle. The pass would have to be perfect - hard enough to beat the corner (Weatherspoon) who was a step behind Aiyuk but soft enough to float it over the safety (Diggs). In all, there were 4 Seahawks forming a box around Aiyuk. And Purdy made the absolute perfect pass. The prudent, conservative approach would be to take the sure thing underneath on the checkdown; we've all seen Jimmy G take that option every time. But Purdy isn't Jimmy G; if he feels he can take that deep shot, he "lets it rip" as he put it after the game. Shanahan said everyone on the sidelines held their collective breath when the ball was in the air since they all saw the safety deep. But Purdy saw the safety as well and decided to let it rip. Maybe Aiyuk put it best when he just said "that's what you call A DOT!"

Imo his best throw was the one he threw to Aiyuk…wanna say against Bucs…where the defender had inside position on an in-cut route meaning that when Purdy threw the ball the defender was between Aiyuk and the spot he was throwing to. And the ball was right on Aiyuk’s face after he cuts and crosses the defender’s face. That’s…you just don’t see that. But honestly, he makes a few special throws a game now. That long TD where he double pumped and threw a bomb without even being able to step into it…was that the Kittle one?… was the most impressive in terms of defying the idea he has a noodle arm.

[CrimsonCrew]

The TD pass to Aiyuk against Seattle may have been Purdy's best pass so far, certainly right up there with the bomb to Kittle against the Jags in a collapsing pocket and the bomb to Aiyuk against the Bucs. The play was designed to go through his progressions but the ideal option was Woerner wide open as the checkdown option; could have picked up the first down fairly easily. Shanahan clearly did not expect him to go to Aiyuk as the deep option since the safety (Diggs) was deep in the middle. The pass would have to be perfect - hard enough to beat the corner (Weatherspoon) who was a step behind Aiyuk but soft enough to float it over the safety (Diggs). In all, there were 4 Seahawks forming a box around Aiyuk. And Purdy made the absolute perfect pass. The prudent, conservative approach would be to take the sure thing underneath on the checkdown; we've all seen Jimmy G take that option every time. But Purdy isn't Jimmy G; if he feels he can take that deep shot, he "lets it rip" as he put it after the game. Shanahan said everyone on the sidelines held their collective breath when the ball was in the air since they all saw the safety deep. But Purdy saw the safety as well and decided to let it rip. Maybe Aiyuk put it best when he just said "that's what you call A DOT!"

Imo his best throw was the one he threw to Aiyuk…wanna say against Bucs…where the defender had inside position on an in-cut route meaning that when Purdy threw the ball the defender was between Aiyuk and the spot he was throwing to. And the ball was right on Aiyuk’s face after he cuts and crosses the defender’s face. That’s…you just don’t see that. But honestly, he makes a few special throws a game now. That long TD where he double pumped and threw a bomb without even being able to step into it…was that the Kittle one?… was the most impressive in terms of defying the idea he has a noodle arm.

Yeah, the problem with the perception of him as being a product of the system is that he makes it look easy. He plays within the rhythm of the system with incredible anticipation, accuracy, and touch. Because of that, it looks to the casual viewer like he's throwing to these wide open guys. The hitch is that, as said above, they very regularly are not wide open when he throws it. He is throwing it before they make their break to the place where they will be most open. That is incredibly difficult. That's what Lance clearly did not have, and it didn't seem terribly likely he ever would.

Now, look, there are still some legit questions about his ultimate upside. Usually it takes guys years to develop this level of anticipation and timing, even the greats. The fact that Purdy is already doing is is fairly remarkable, and could mean that he's very close to maxing out his talent. Which, as we've seen, is really, really good, especially within this system. But can he win a duel like the one between Allen and Hurts on Sunday? He still needs to show it. And if he can't, can you afford to pay that guy effectively what you're paying those guys, realizing it will dramatically reduce the talent around him? The good news is we have the playoffs and another season to figure it out.

[CharityStripe34]

The TD pass to Aiyuk against Seattle may have been Purdy's best pass so far, certainly right up there with the bomb to Kittle against the Jags in a collapsing pocket and the bomb to Aiyuk against the Bucs. The play was designed to go through his progressions but the ideal option was Woerner wide open as the checkdown option; could have picked up the first down fairly easily. Shanahan clearly did not expect him to go to Aiyuk as the deep option since the safety (Diggs) was deep in the middle. The pass would have to be perfect - hard enough to beat the corner (Weatherspoon) who was a step behind Aiyuk but soft enough to float it over the safety (Diggs). In all, there were 4 Seahawks forming a box around Aiyuk. And Purdy made the absolute perfect pass. The prudent, conservative approach would be to take the sure thing underneath on the checkdown; we've all seen Jimmy G take that option every time. But Purdy isn't Jimmy G; if he feels he can take that deep shot, he "lets it rip" as he put it after the game. Shanahan said everyone on the sidelines held their collective breath when the ball was in the air since they all saw the safety deep. But Purdy saw the safety as well and decided to let it rip. Maybe Aiyuk put it best when he just said "that's what you call A DOT!"

The camera didn't quite catch it but that TD throw to Aiyuk against Seattle fired up Shanahan on the sideline. It seemed like he was mouthing "F*ck Yea!" when the camera caught him.

[Jikkle]

This Eagles game will be Purdy's biggest game to date and a good performance I think will really quite a lot of doubts.

Because he's played great and has amazing statistics but they ultimately won't matter if he can't perform against teams that really matter.

For me that's the biggest thing currently missing on his resume is some signature wins against top-tier teams. Playing well against the Eagles, Ravens, and in the playoffs will really give him those notches on his belt he lacks. Because if he bombs against the Eagles I'm not going to get excited if he's historic against the Cardinals a couple weeks later.

[CharityStripe34]

This Eagles game will be Purdy's biggest game to date and a good performance I think will really quite a lot of doubts.

Because he's played great and has amazing statistics but they ultimately won't matter if he can't perform against teams that really matter.

For me that's the biggest thing currently missing on his resume is some signature wins against top-tier teams. Playing well against the Eagles, Ravens, and in the playoffs will really give him those notches on his belt he lacks. Because if he bombs against the Eagles I'm not going to get excited if he's historic against the Cardinals a couple weeks later.

I'd say beating the piss out of the Cowboys on SNF is a signature win. And doing the same to the Jaguars.

But, yes, beating the Eagles today would be his best to date. If for no other reason than to give credence to the perception that the 49ers would've won the NFC title game had he not gotten injured.

[Samurai]

This Eagles game will be Purdy's biggest game to date and a good performance I think will really quite a lot of doubts.

Because he's played great and has amazing statistics but they ultimately won't matter if he can't perform against teams that really matter.

For me that's the biggest thing currently missing on his resume is some signature wins against top-tier teams. Playing well against the Eagles, Ravens, and in the playoffs will really give him those notches on his belt he lacks. Because if he bombs against the Eagles I'm not going to get excited if he's historic against the Cardinals a couple weeks later.

I'd say beating the piss out of the Cowboys on SNF is a signature win. And doing the same to the Jaguars.

But, yes, beating the Eagles today would be his best to date. If for no other reason than to give credence to the perception that the 49ers would've won the NFC title game had he not gotten injured.

I think a win against the Eagles would be more of a signature win for the team than just Purdy. There are plenty of guys (not just Deebo) that feel we would have been in the Super Bowl if Purdy were healthy. I'm sure even a number of Eagles feel that they would have lost if they had no starting or back-up QB against us. But coulda/shoulda/woulda doesn't carry much weight and today is the team's chance to show how good they can be when they have all their horses.

[arich35]

Purdy is the real deal.

[wco81]

Wasn't his best game. Eagles second level defense is suspect and in the two long TD passes, he turned a short pass and just outraced the defense to the end zone, didn't really have to weave through traffic that much.

So Purdy had the gaudy stats but this wasn't his best game where he was slicing the defense for 15-yard in-cuts with passes throw before the WRs make cuts.

I think the Eagles tried to deny him the middle third a few times and he went for outs, pretty decisive on those throws based on how the defenses reacted to route combos.

Also made a couple of plays on the run, like the TD to Aiyuk.

[Harry Palmer]

Guys, we got something. Feels like the beginning of a special career.

That said, I have zero idea how they’ll be functional once Trent isn’t there. That is imo the Big Issue heading our way, and I don’t see many great solutions.