The Brock Purdy Thread

[Jikkle]

Wasn't his best game. Eagles second level defense is suspect and in the two long TD passes, he turned a short pass and just outraced the defense to the end zone, didn't really have to weave through traffic that much.

So Purdy had the gaudy stats but this wasn't his best game where he was slicing the defense for 15-yard in-cuts with passes throw before the WRs make cuts.

I think the Eagles tried to deny him the middle third a few times and he went for outs, pretty decisive on those throws based on how the defenses reacted to route combos.

Also made a couple of plays on the run, like the TD to Aiyuk.

He didn't put on a clinic and yeah it was the kind of game Purdy detracters will point to that the weapons and everything around him are doing the heavy lifting. I mean I heard the stat was like something like 213 yards were YAC yards.

But I'd still say it was a great game on his part. After those first two drives he was pretty much on point with where to go with the ball, didn't turn it over, and kept the chains moving. With the Eagle's defensive line it just wasn't going to be a throw a party kind of day and it was the same gameplan used to beat our defensive line by just getting the ball out quick before the defensive line has a shot at doing anything.

[wco81]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles were determined to take out Aiyuk, who'd been getting big 15-yard passes on the in cuts all season.

So Shanahan went to the screens and jet sweeps and shallow crosses that Deebo turned into TDs as he got up to full speed and ran by the Eagles safeties. Once he broke the initial cluster around the LOC, it was free sailing, though great downfield blocking too.

[Samurai]

Purdy had a passer rating of 148.8 against the Eagles. So over his first two seasons, he now has five games with a rating of 140 or higher. The number of other QB's that have accomplished that are exactly zero. Not bad company to be in for a short, unathletic QB with a noodle-arm!

[Jikkle]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles were determined to take out Aiyuk, who'd been getting big 15-yard passes on the in cuts all season.

So Shanahan went to the screens and jet sweeps and shallow crosses that Deebo turned into TDs as he got up to full speed and ran by the Eagles safeties. Once he broke the initial cluster around the LOC, it was free sailing, though great downfield blocking too.

Felt like the first two drives Shanahan wanted to operate as we had been doing but he finally had a moment of clarity and realized our offensive line can't block their defensive line and they suck once you get past their front 4 so why not attack them with the old school WCO and make the passing game an extended running game and dare their 2nd level guys to make plays.

[CharityStripe34]

Wasn't his best game. Eagles second level defense is suspect and in the two long TD passes, he turned a short pass and just outraced the defense to the end zone, didn't really have to weave through traffic that much.

So Purdy had the gaudy stats but this wasn't his best game where he was slicing the defense for 15-yard in-cuts with passes throw before the WRs make cuts.

I think the Eagles tried to deny him the middle third a few times and he went for outs, pretty decisive on those throws based on how the defenses reacted to route combos.

Also made a couple of plays on the run, like the TD to Aiyuk.

He didn't put on a clinic and yeah it was the kind of game Purdy detracters will point to that the weapons and everything around him are doing the heavy lifting. I mean I heard the stat was like something like 213 yards were YAC yards.

But I'd still say it was a great game on his part. After those first two drives he was pretty much on point with where to go with the ball, didn't turn it over, and kept the chains moving. With the Eagle's defensive line it just wasn't going to be a throw a party kind of day and it was the same gameplan used to beat our defensive line by just getting the ball out quick before the defensive line has a shot at doing anything.

I thought he played very well after the first two drives. He made some great third-down throws to keep the chains moving and the offense humming. It was a very Bill Walsh-ian approach with quick-hitting throws. Still, some of those short passes require great touch/accuracy to allow for great YAC. Shanahan definitely adjusted once the right side of the line looked lost those first two series (which is still an issue heading into the playoffs).

[Harry Palmer]

On the overthrow to CMC, has anyone seen a 9er comment? Because I’m like 60% convinced CMC ran the wrong route or there was miscommunication because where Brock threw it would be his usual sideline placement at the sticks, CMC would have been about 2 yards short if he catches it where he is and the db is tight so can’t count on forward progress.

[Harry Palmer]

Wasn't his best game. Eagles second level defense is suspect and in the two long TD passes, he turned a short pass and just outraced the defense to the end zone, didn't really have to weave through traffic that much.

So Purdy had the gaudy stats but this wasn't his best game where he was slicing the defense for 15-yard in-cuts with passes throw before the WRs make cuts.

I think the Eagles tried to deny him the middle third a few times and he went for outs, pretty decisive on those throws based on how the defenses reacted to route combos.

Also made a couple of plays on the run, like the TD to Aiyuk.

He didn't put on a clinic and yeah it was the kind of game Purdy detracters will point to that the weapons and everything around him are doing the heavy lifting. I mean I heard the stat was like something like 213 yards were YAC yards.

But I'd still say it was a great game on his part. After those first two drives he was pretty much on point with where to go with the ball, didn't turn it over, and kept the chains moving. With the Eagle's defensive line it just wasn't going to be a throw a party kind of day and it was the same gameplan used to beat our defensive line by just getting the ball out quick before the defensive line has a shot at doing anything.

I thought he played very well after the first two drives. He made some great third-down throws to keep the chains moving and the offense humming. It was a very Bill Walsh-ian approach with quick-hitting throws. Still, some of those short passes require great touch/accuracy to allow for great YAC. Shanahan definitely adjusted once the right side of the line looked lost those first two series (which is still an issue heading into the playoffs).

Yeah, I think every team knows we’re gonna run heavy right, but if it’s becoming ~ exclusive that might be a problem. I think he’s trying to use a lot of flat/shorts and gadget plays for the right side to keep defences honest, but DCs out there are going to be smart enough to develop filters for that.

Edit: sorry, I know you are talk more pass pro, I was just adding the right side run issue too, and how compensating for that also played into the pass play selection.

[CharityStripe34]

On the overthrow to CMC, has anyone seen a 9er comment? Because I’m like 60% convinced CMC ran the wrong route or there was miscommunication because where Brock threw it would be his usual sideline placement at the sticks, CMC would have been about 2 yards short if he catches it where he is and the db is tight so can’t count on forward progress.

JTO talked about it on his film review. CMC did that weird motion to the right but was 5 yarda behind the los. He ran a good route but short of the sticks. It is a strange spot to motion to, I wonder if Shanahan wants the D thinking if it may be a swing and/or screen pass?

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[CharityStripe34]

He didn't put on a clinic and yeah it was the kind of game Purdy detracters will point to that the weapons and everything around him are doing the heavy lifting. I mean I heard the stat was like something like 213 yards were YAC yards.

But I'd still say it was a great game on his part. After those first two drives he was pretty much on point with where to go with the ball, didn't turn it over, and kept the chains moving. With the Eagle's defensive line it just wasn't going to be a throw a party kind of day and it was the same gameplan used to beat our defensive line by just getting the ball out quick before the defensive line has a shot at doing anything.

I thought he played very well after the first two drives. He made some great third-down throws to keep the chains moving and the offense humming. It was a very Bill Walsh-ian approach with quick-hitting throws. Still, some of those short passes require great touch/accuracy to allow for great YAC. Shanahan definitely adjusted once the right side of the line looked lost those first two series (which is still an issue heading into the playoffs).

Yeah, I think every team knows we’re gonna run heavy right, but if it’s becoming ~ exclusive that might be a problem. I think he’s trying to use a lot of flat/shorts and gadget plays for the right side to keep defences honest, but DCs out there are going to be smart enough to develop filters for that.

Edit: sorry, I know you are talk more pass pro, I was just adding the right side run issue too, and how compensating for that also played into the pass play selection.

Yeah, its the open secret weakness of the team at this time. McKivitz looked lost a few times against Reddick.

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[Pattersonca65]

Wasn't his best game. Eagles second level defense is suspect and in the two long TD passes, he turned a short pass and just outraced the defense to the end zone, didn't really have to weave through traffic that much.

So Purdy had the gaudy stats but this wasn't his best game where he was slicing the defense for 15-yard in-cuts with passes throw before the WRs make cuts.

I think the Eagles tried to deny him the middle third a few times and he went for outs, pretty decisive on those throws based on how the defenses reacted to route combos.

Also made a couple of plays on the run, like the TD to Aiyuk.

He didn't put on a clinic and yeah it was the kind of game Purdy detracters will point to that the weapons and everything around him are doing the heavy lifting. I mean I heard the stat was like something like 213 yards were YAC yards.

But I'd still say it was a great game on his part. After those first two drives he was pretty much on point with where to go with the ball, didn't turn it over, and kept the chains moving. With the Eagle's defensive line it just wasn't going to be a throw a party kind of day and it was the same gameplan used to beat our defensive line by just getting the ball out quick before the defensive line has a shot at doing anything.

Shanahan said he was concerned with the Eagles pass rush and with the type of defense the Eagles were playing against SF that longer routes SF usually throws were riskier and Shanahan opted for shorter routes. It appeared to work well.

[Harry Palmer]

One thing about Purdy; every single new piece of info about him he gives us is impressive, every surprise is a good one. Watching him play or field questions or just lead, every new facet we get from him is a positive one. That’s so rare.

[CrimsonCrew]

One more impressive thing to note about Purdy: early in the year, he missed several deep balls in one game (can't recall which one right now, maybe the first one against the Rams?). Since that game, I can't recall him missing a deep ball to an open guy. Really impressive that he looked for a game or two like Garoppolo, just might not have the arm for those longer balls, and it took so much to get the throw out there that he lost his accuracy.

But that was just a blip. Since that game, he has repeatedly shown an ability to throw pinpoint passes deep downfield and hit his receivers in stride. He did it repeatedly again this week. Really impressive by him to recognize an area for improvement, seemingly attack it, and make it an area of strength. And it shows in terms of opening up run lanes and underneath stuff. He's been incredibly impressive this year, even in a game where - relatively - he struggled a bit with his recognition and shorter area accuracy.

[wco81]

He's not going to make "Wow!" throws like Allen or Herbert or Stafford in his prime.

What's he done so well is to recognize which WRs are separating or will separate and get the ball to them on time that he doesn't have to make Wow throws to fit into tight windows.

Like the throw to Kittle who was almost 5 yards beyond Adams when he caught the ball, didn't have to worry about pinpointing a rocket.


Kaepernick had a big arm but he tried to throw frozen ropes all the time instead of lofting the ball sometimes so often the ball would get tipped by the trail DB or underneath LBs.

Of course the bigger problem was recognition. I remember they were in Baltimore and on the opening drive, they had a corner and in cut combo where the safety drew up and Walker would have had a wide open TD on the corner route but Kap didn't throw it to them.

As the play was unfolding they had cameras up in the box where Roman was calling the plays and he said "touchdown" only to have Kap not hit the wide open corner route.

[Samurai]

I'm wondering if (a big) part of Purdy's recent success on deep balls is that we are now further away from his elbow surgery. Earlier in the season, he may not have had enough health in his elbow to be able to put the same accuracy on his deep passes that he seems to be displaying now. At any rate, it definitely makes him harder to defend since the book on him was to crowd the shorter routes and dare him to throw over the top. Seattle started the game trying to take away the short to intermediate range over the middle and Purdy made them pay.

[Pattersonca65]

One more impressive thing to note about Purdy: early in the year, he missed several deep balls in one game (can't recall which one right now, maybe the first one against the Rams?). Since that game, I can't recall him missing a deep ball to an open guy. Really impressive that he looked for a game or two like Garoppolo, just might not have the arm for those longer balls, and it took so much to get the throw out there that he lost his accuracy.

But that was just a blip. Since that game, he has repeatedly shown an ability to throw pinpoint passes deep downfield and hit his receivers in stride. He did it repeatedly again this week. Really impressive by him to recognize an area for improvement, seemingly attack it, and make it an area of strength. And it shows in terms of opening up run lanes and underneath stuff. He's been incredibly impressive this year, even in a game where - relatively - he struggled a bit with his recognition and shorter area accuracy.

One of the plays that stood out to me was a short five yard completion. Purdy had a defender bearing down.on him from the left edge. He managed to get the ball off for a small gain what looked like a sack and loss. Those plays are big to.sustain drives.

[Pattersonca65]

I'm wondering if (a big) part of Purdy's recent success on deep balls is that we are now further away from his elbow surgery. Earlier in the season, he may not have had enough health in his elbow to be able to put the same accuracy on his deep passes that he seems to be displaying now. At any rate, it definitely makes him harder to defend since the book on him was to crowd the shorter routes and dare him to throw over the top. Seattle started the game trying to take away the short to intermediate range over the middle and Purdy made them pay.

My guess is just a lack of reps and practice early in the season

[Jikkle]

Thought this was one of Purdy's best game as he showcased some real downfield accuracy that wasn't intermediate down the middle throws.

That was one aspect of his game that was somewhat questionable if he can nail those throws on a consistent basis and while I'd say he needs to string together more games with close to this kinda of deep throw effectiveness it's good to see he is fully capable of nailing a few a game.

It's vital that he has these throws or it's going to be a Jimmy G situation where teams just focus on covering the middle of the field and dare outside the numbers deep throws. It's why I argued for Lance is because we needed more deep throw outside the numbers success to punish defenses that try to creep up and shut down the run and intermediate passing attack.

[Harry Palmer]

Thought this was one of Purdy's best game as he showcased some real downfield accuracy that wasn't intermediate down the middle throws.

That was one aspect of his game that was somewhat questionable if he can nail those throws on a consistent basis and while I'd say he needs to string together more games with close to this kinda of deep throw effectiveness it's good to see he is fully capable of nailing a few a game.

It's vital that he has these throws or it's going to be a Jimmy G situation where teams just focus on covering the middle of the field and dare outside the numbers deep throws. It's why I argued for Lance is because we needed more deep throw outside the numbers success to punish defenses that try to creep up and shut down the run and intermediate passing attack.

Doesn’t he lead the league in completion % on passes of 30 or more yards? It could just mean passes that go for 30 or more but can vary wildly in air yards, but the way I saw it mentioned seemed to be specific to throwing deep balls.

[CharityStripe34]

I think he leads the NFL in air yards per attempt (5.4) or something to that effect. A big part of his success with the downfield throws is that he's constantly looking downfield even when avoiding the rush or getting out of the pocket. He has a playmaker's mentality. Jimmy often would panic on his scrambles.

[arich35]

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