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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#701 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:06 pm

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Pattersonca65 wrote:This has to be the dumbest take of all. And you have some really stupid ones. Congrats


What is really dumb is complaining about with a take without offering a counter argument or even an explanation.


Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level
I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#702 » by Big J » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:20 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
What is really dumb is complaining about with a take without offering a counter argument or even an explanation.


Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level
I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


The team needs leverage. We have to sign a competent QB to compete for snaps with him. Bringing back Darnold sounds quite nice right now.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#703 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:20 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
What is really dumb is complaining about with a take without offering a counter argument or even an explanation.


Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level
I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#704 » by Big J » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:20 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
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Pattersonca65 wrote:This has to be the dumbest take of all. And you have some really stupid ones. Congrats


What is really dumb is complaining about with a take without offering a counter argument or even an explanation.


Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level

Thanks for proving my point.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#705 » by Big J » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:22 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level
I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not


We should try to field a good one. However we also need a QB who can still win despite having a mediocre line.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#706 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:32 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
What is really dumb is complaining about with a take without offering a counter argument or even an explanation.


Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level

Thanks for proving my point.

Your welcome. Lets see if the posts can get even dumber
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#707 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:34 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not


We should try to field a good one. However we also need a QB who can still win despite having a mediocre line.

We donnt have a mediocre one. But this team has ao many issues biggee than Purdy but it is too much for an imbecile to understand
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#708 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Dec 24, 2024 9:53 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level
I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not


That is an ongoing Kyle/Lynch issue on not drafting OL depth regardless of needs. They could have gotten Frazier instead of Pearsall along with all those other reached picks from the past early rounds.

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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#709 » by Big J » Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:00 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not


We should try to field a good one. However we also need a QB who can still win despite having a mediocre line.

We donnt have a mediocre one. But this team has ao many issues biggee than Purdy but it is too much for an imbecile to understand


Which position has the greatest impact on overall team success?
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#710 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:17 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not


We should try to field a good one. However we also need a QB who can still win despite having a mediocre line.
The Eagles will most likely drop Pickett as backup after the season, which the 49ers must avoid competing with Purdy. Cut Brandon Allen and keep Dobbs as their backup going forward. Then draft Fajita in the 7th round to compete with Purdy. His play will translate well within Shanahan's offense. Do not pass up on the next Purdy like steal.

https://youtube.com/shorts/i4-h4J4r05w?si=VNvz8t_y2d4Meba9

https://youtu.be/zOHqWlI2qY8?si=pKpTQENmpV6Iu9pq
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#711 » by Big J » Wed Dec 25, 2024 2:25 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
That is ok. And we should just field a horrible offensive line because it doesnt matter if they can pass block or not


We should try to field a good one. However we also need a QB who can still win despite having a mediocre line.
The Eagles will most likely drop Pickett as backup after the season, which the 49ers must avoid competing with Purdy. Cut Brandon Allen and keep Dobbs as their backup going forward. Then draft Fajita in the 7th round to compete with Purdy. His play will translate well within Shanahan's offense. Do not pass up on the next Purdy like steal.

https://youtube.com/shorts/i4-h4J4r05w?si=VNvz8t_y2d4Meba9

https://youtu.be/zOHqWlI2qY8?si=pKpTQENmpV6Iu9pq


We should just sign friggen Darnold back.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#712 » by Jikkle » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:11 am

Regardless of who is QB the offensive line must improve.

We tend to forget that the offensive line isn't about just pass blocking but run blocking as well and that's especially important because the engine of Shanahan's offense is always going to be the running attack.

It's partly the reason the offensive line is a mess because his focus is so much on having lineman that can pull and get to the 2nd level of defenses he tends to overlook if they can do anything else right and it's usually the pass blocking ability that gets ignored.

Look at the best teams in the league right now and they usually have good offensive lines. The Eagles and Lions might have the two best units in the game and the Chiefs arguably have the best interior group in the league. The one Super Bowl Mahomes lost was because his offensive line was awful.

I've said it before this offense doesn't need a great offensive line to be successful but just needs a good one. So I don't actually take issue with the core philosophy of Shanahan when it comes to the offensive line because it is the group that probably gives you the worst return on investment but you also can't go dumpster diving for a bunch of UDFAs that wouldn't be backups for a lot of teams and trying to make it work. They just need a better balance of how much they invest into the group and to be fair Puni was a perfect example of what they should do more of.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#713 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:42 pm

Big J wrote:Relying on the OL being good in order for sustained team success is a fools errand. All it would take is one injury to a starter on a good OL and then we're back to Purdy getting exposed again. We need a QB who is able to not lose games despite having below average offensive line play. That way our team success isn't dependent on having a good OL.


I don't know about that. It's worked out pretty well for Goff, who is about the worst QB under pressure that I've seen (he was basically Jimmy G. - just along for the ride on a dominant team - on their unsuccessful SB run), but plays behind maybe the best OL in the league with the Lions.

Here, it's not just a question of having below average OL play. It's a question of having two awful pass blockers next to each other on the interior, an aging star at LT who should be expected to miss multiple games a year, a mediocre at best RT (which is arguably the most talent-starved position in the league), and an apparent inability to pick up a disguised blitz. The OL has been a mess this year, and it has hampered the entire offense.

Very few QBs - including Brady, who lost a couple SBs to a team that really only had a good pass rush - are able to execute well under consistent pressure. I'm not at all saying that the poor OL play is single-handedly responsible for Purdy's struggles this year, but it would be silly to act as if he should simply rise above major dysfunction along the interior OL, and moderate dysfunction on the edges.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#714 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:45 pm

Big J wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Your takes are so conistently idiotic you have reached a whole another level
I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


The team needs leverage. We have to sign a competent QB to compete for snaps with him. Bringing back Darnold sounds quite nice right now.


Pending his playoff performance, Darnold may be looking at a Baker Mayfield type of contract. It would be pretty shocking if we could bring him in and keep Purdy. Purdy will not and should not play next year on his current deal.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#715 » by WentzerWuver » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:58 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:I think Purdy should be resigned but only if he accepts the same reasonable contract Baker Mayfield received this off-season. If Purdy demands a Dak like contract, he can just take a flying hike off the deep end.

https://youtube.com/shorts/NhMNGz_26Z4?si=7ixgrSqTPZjCbzlb


The team needs leverage. We have to sign a competent QB to compete for snaps with him. Bringing back Darnold sounds quite nice right now.


Pending his playoff performance, Darnold may be looking at a Baker Mayfield type of contract. It would be pretty shocking if we could bring him in and keep Purdy. Purdy will not and should not play next year on his current deal.
Kyle/Lynch wants Purdy here long term and will give him what he asked cause it seems to be the 49ers way for this regime. Just ask all their other paid players like Juszczyk who is still the highest paid FB in the league!

https://youtube.com/shorts/erHOG4hdvTA?si=luuOvzY7X6An9yNM

If it's me, it has to be the bottom line...not the player, so whoever accepts Baker's contract this offseason will be the starting QB between Purdy and Sam unless Cousins wants to play for his old coach again, then he get the starting gig next season free (Like Russ this season) for his best chance at winning the SB. If Kyle can fix Sam's play, he can with Kirk too, being the guru that he is.

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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#716 » by wco81 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:13 pm

Darnold wouldn't have Jefferson or Addison to throw to if the 49ers signed him.

I couldn't believe Jefferson lasted until #20 in the 2020 draft. He was the fifth WR taken in that draft class. Oh this was the draft in which the 49ers picked Kinlaw #14 and Aiyuk #25. Aiyuk worked out but Jefferson had immediate impact, even as a rookie.

Jefferson put up huge numbers as probably Burrow's main target at LSU. Maybe that's why NFL teams selected 4 WRs before him?

Only Lamb selected at #17 is in Jefferson's class.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#717 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:33 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
The team needs leverage. We have to sign a competent QB to compete for snaps with him. Bringing back Darnold sounds quite nice right now.


Pending his playoff performance, Darnold may be looking at a Baker Mayfield type of contract. It would be pretty shocking if we could bring him in and keep Purdy. Purdy will not and should not play next year on his current deal.
Kyle/Lynch wants Purdy here long term and will give him what he asked cause it seems to be the 49ers way for this regime. Just ask all their other paid players like Juszczyk who is still the highest paid FB in the league!

https://youtube.com/shorts/erHOG4hdvTA?si=luuOvzY7X6An9yNM

If it's me, it has to be the bottom line...not the player, so whoever accepts Baker's contract this offseason will be the starting QB between Purdy and Sam unless Cousins wants to play for his old coach again, then he get the starting gig next season free (Like Russ this season) for his best chance at winning the SB. If Kyle can fix Sam's play, he can with Kirk too, being the guru that he is.

https://youtube.com/shorts/D2dmOaGeWg0?si=El9SlAUgSs7rv8d3


It's very likely that's the direction we're heading. I wouldn't do that myself, but we'll see what happens and how it's structured. The final very cheap year gives us some flexibility, so even a five- or six-year extension could get spread out a lot. That said, lately we've been back-loading contracts and then restructuring or extending guys, which doesn't really solve the cap issues. But in Paraag I trust; we haven't been through a bad period of cap hell.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#718 » by RIPskaterdude » Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:50 pm

More players on IR, including Trent. Why did it seem like a week to week injury and yet he's now out for the season?
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#719 » by Jikkle » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:25 am



Maybe you can argue Shanahan doesn't need to reinvent himself but he definitely needs to figure out our execution issues.

I know we're fielding a lot of backups right now but I still think this team makes way too many mental mistakes on both sides of the ball.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#720 » by Jikkle » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:32 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:More players on IR, including Trent. Why did it seem like a week to week injury and yet he's now out for the season?


It's hard to get a read from this team when it comes to injuries.

I'm guessing if we were in the playoffs he'd probably be back but being eliminated from the playoffs might as well shut him down.

I'd rather see what we got in other guys since we all know what we got with Trent. I hope they shut down Banks and Brendal while they are at it since neither one should be starting next season so lets see if any of the other guys can show anything to be worth a look next offseason.

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