2017 NFL DRAFT Thread

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

I'm hoping Sydney Jones is there for us in the 3rd

I'm hoping for Joe Mixon or Bucky Hodges. The cornerback position can still wait, we have two second year players on our roster right now that I think highly of. I think we can get ourselves a steal in Cam Sutton in the 4th.

I'm interested to see where Curtis Samuel goes and Zach Cunningham.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Panthers taking McCaffrey—like you said—still surprised me. It was an awful pick. Not sure what he offers over many of the talent still on the board at that pick.

Actually Mccafrey for the Panthers to me is a great pick. You got a fast back who can split out... In short Yardage where in years past everyone knew it was Cam running now hes got the fast back that he can pitch it to... Opens up a lot for their offense.. To me it makes teams have to prepare for different schemes and plays. In the Pistol Mccaffrey could become truly dangerous be a lot like Shady McCoy...

I heard Mike Mayock compare him to Shades of McCoy and honestly it doesn't make sense. He's more like the other Buffalo Bill RB in 2016, Reggie Bush.

The Shady McCoy comparison is off IMO. Shady is much more elusive--almost like Barry Sanders in terms their shake & bake ability / being able to make the first and second defender miss. You put McCoy in a phone booth with a LB and I'm almost certain that he'll find a way to make that defender miss. McCaffrey is a little stiffer in his juking ability when compared to Shady. Still there are a lot of other things that McCaffrey is able to do that I think are rare which then warrants a top 10 pick. He's going to be a household name by year two. Similar to the Chargers' Melvin Engram, he's going to need a little time to adjust, but once they (him adjusting and the coaches identifying his strengths) figure it out he'll be a top 10 fantasy football player in no time.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Looks like the Niners are set at LB for now (Brooks, Bow & Foster), but Brooks will be a FA after this season; and the 2 vets aren't exactly young.

I'm intrigued at the prospect of drafting Jordan Willis to play SLB. He'd be kind of a project, but the Niners have time.

Jordan Willis? DL for Kansas State isn't he around 280lbs? How would he be able to play LB?

[CrimsonCrew]

A little late to the party, but wanted to give my thoughts. I haven't read through the thread yet, so apologies if it's redundant. I was not very excited going into the night, but I was quite excited coming out of it. We got a very nice haul of picks to move back one spot and still get the guy we wanted. Those extra third rounders and the fourth (granted gone at this point) are huge, particularly in this deep draft. I was really hoping we would trade back again from two, but it's likely the market just wasn't there.

In terms of the picks, I like a lot about Solomon Thomas as a player and a leader. I had/have major questions about how our last three picks get on the field together, though. We'll see what they do, and I guess those rumors about Armstead playing LEO are legit. I suppose at this point we probably don't go after the edge spot aggressively, but see what the guys on our roster can do - though if the value is there, we've still got to make a move at the position. Despite what some pundits have said, I don't really see Thomas playing the LEO, but more likely LDE in base and inside on passing downs.

I'm thrilled with the Reuben Foster pick. Pre-draft blow-up, I would have been pretty happy to see him as the pick at two. To get him at 31 is incredible. I think he can play any of the three LB spots, and is very well-suited for MLB or WLB. For some reason, I'm not terribly worried about the off-field stuff, and I think he's going to come in pissed. Bowman had some character concerns coming in, but Willis took him under his wing and he's been a model citizen and great guy. Hopefully we'll see the same dynamic between Bowman and Foster. Ultimately, in one day, our front-seven went from something of a question mark to pretty darn promising. I'd like to see us add a run-stuffing DL in the fourth or fifth, but other than that, I focus on the back end of the D and the offensive side of the ball today.

[CrimsonCrew]

Looks like the Niners are set at LB for now (Brooks, Bow & Foster), but Brooks will be a FA after this season; and the 2 vets aren't exactly young.

I'm intrigued at the prospect of drafting Jordan Willis to play SLB. He'd be kind of a project, but the Niners have time.

Jordan Willis? DL for Kansas State isn't he around 280lbs? How would he be able to play LB?

Willis is 255 and ran a 4.53 at the combine. You're either confusing him with someone else or thinking he's much bigger than he is. His combine was ridiculous in terms of athleticism.

[clyde21]

Jordan Willis is one of my favorite value picks in this entire draft. If he's there in the third, he's a must pick, IMO. We'll figure it out later.

Best available for me:

DeShone Kizer
Cam Robinson
Dalvin Cook
Joe Mixon
Jordan Willis
Kevin King
Curtis Samuel
ArDarius Stewart
Chidobe Awuzie
Bucky Hodges
Eddie Jackson
Damien Mama
Cameron Sutton
Sidney Jones
Jamaal Williams

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Looks like the Niners are set at LB for now (Brooks, Bow & Foster), but Brooks will be a FA after this season; and the 2 vets aren't exactly young.

I'm intrigued at the prospect of drafting Jordan Willis to play SLB. He'd be kind of a project, but the Niners have time.

Jordan Willis? DL for Kansas State isn't he around 280lbs? How would he be able to play LB?

Willis is 255 and ran a 4.53 at the combine. You're either confusing him with someone else or thinking he's much bigger than he is. His combine was ridiculous in terms of athleticism.

Thanks Crims. Definitely confusing him with someone else.

Wouldn't someone like Carl Lawson fit better in that role?

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

A little late to the party, but wanted to give my thoughts. I haven't read through the thread yet, so apologies if it's redundant. I was not very excited going into the night, but I was quite excited coming out of it. We got a very nice haul of picks to move back one spot and still get the guy we wanted. Those extra third rounders and the fourth (granted gone at this point) are huge, particularly in this deep draft. I was really hoping we would trade back again from two, but it's likely the market just wasn't there.

In terms of the picks, I like a lot about Solomon Thomas as a player and a leader. I had/have major questions about how our last three picks get on the field together, though. We'll see what they do, and I guess those rumors about Armstead playing LEO are legit. I suppose at this point we probably don't go after the edge spot aggressively, but see what the guys on our roster can do - though if the value is there, we've still got to make a move at the position. Despite what some pundits have said, I don't really see Thomas playing the LEO, but more likely LDE in base and inside on passing downs.

I'm thrilled with the Reuben Foster pick. Pre-draft blow-up, I would have been pretty happy to see him as the pick at two. To get him at 31 is incredible. I think he can play any of the three LB spots, and is very well-suited for MLB or WLB. For some reason, I'm not terribly worried about the off-field stuff, and I think he's going to come in pissed. Bowman had some character concerns coming in, but Willis took him under his wing and he's been a model citizen and great guy. Hopefully we'll see the same dynamic between Bowman and Foster. Ultimately, in one day, our front-seven went from something of a question mark to pretty darn promising. I'd like to see us add a run-stuffing DL in the fourth or fifth, but other than that, I focus on the back end of the D and the offensive side of the ball today.

Well said Crims. I too was not too optimistic going into the draft, but the day of the event, I read somewhere where (the analyst's mock draft) the writer made a point by quoting something Lynch had said during one of his press conferences in the past in regard to being open to drafting prospects with checkered past (not solely focusing on choir boys). I'll see if I can find that blog later. Anyway, that was a big sigh of relief for me when I read that.

Not saying that Lynch and company will forgive and pardon someone like Joe Mixon for their action (he may very well be off his draft board), but still it gives me a sigh of relief that someone like a Tim Williams or a Dalvin Cook can be a 9er if the value and need presents itself.


EDIT: here's the link where John Lynch was quoted in making that statement: https://www.google.com/amp/www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2017/4/24/15412932/john-lynch-football-character-choir-boys-49ers-2017-nfl-draft

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

I'm not a big fan of Jordan Willis. I'd much rather draft someone like Derek Rivers or Tim Williams to play that role for us.

Anyway, here are my top remaining prospects:

Dalvin Cook
Joe Mixon
Jamal Williams (5th round)
Joe Williams (6th round)
Donnel Pumphrey (6th round)
Zach Cunningham
DeShone Kizer
Curtis Samuel
Malachi Dupre (5th round)
Zay Jones (4th round)
Cam Robinson
Tim Williams
Derek Rivers
Carl Lawson
Bucky Hodges
Jake Butt
Gerald Everett (4th round)
Adam Shaheen (4th round)
Tanoh Kpassagnon
Montravious Adams
Quincy Wilson
Teez Tabor
Sidney Jones
Kevin King
Cam Sutton (4th round)
Akhello Whitherspoon

[ChrisPozz]

Actually Mccafrey for the Panthers to me is a great pick. You got a fast back who can split out... In short Yardage where in years past everyone knew it was Cam running now hes got the fast back that he can pitch it to... Opens up a lot for their offense.. To me it makes teams have to prepare for different schemes and plays. In the Pistol Mccaffrey could become truly dangerous be a lot like Shady McCoy...

I heard Mike Mayock compare him to Shades of McCoy and honestly it doesn't make sense. He's more like the other Buffalo Bill RB in 2016, Reggie Bush.

The Shady McCoy comparison is off IMO. Shady is much more elusive--almost like Barry Sanders in terms their shake & bake ability / being able to make the first and second defender miss. You put McCoy in a phone booth with a LB and I'm almost certain that he'll find a way to make that defender miss. McCaffrey is a little stiffer in his juking ability when compared to Shady. Still there are a lot of other things that McCaffrey is able to do that I think are rare which then warrants a top 10 pick. He's going to be a household name by year two. Similar to the Chargers' Melvin Engram, he's going to need a little time to adjust, but once they (him adjusting and the coaches identifying his strengths) figure it out he'll be a top 10 fantasy football player in no time.

Probably. He'll also be a household name for one week following week one this year I'm afraid.

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[Bingo_AlphaMan]

I like Kizer in that environment, it'll serve him well. But I don't know why the Packers wouldn't consider Dalvin Cook here? Unless of course they have strong reasons to believe that someone like Joe Mixon will still be available to them in the 3rd round?

DeShone Kizer - QB - Player

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer is "in play" for the Packers at No. 33 overall.

Holding the top pick of the second round after trading back with the Browns, the Packers are trying to drum up interest in the pick and move back to acquire even more selections. GM Ted Thompson is likely floating the rumor that he is willing to take Kizer in order to get some other QB-needy team to come and take him before they do. In reality, the Packers have far greater holes to fill than taking a project QB like Kizer to sit behind Aaron Rodgers for multiple years.
Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Apr 28 - 11:12 AM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Kirk Cousins - QB - Redskins

Browns EVP Sashi Brown called NFL Network's Ian Rapoport's report that Cleveland is trying to trade for Kirk Cousins "bad reporting."

Brown realizes the Browns need to find a quarterback and wouldn't rule out trading for a veteran, but it doesn't sound like anything is in the works with the Redskins. Cleveland acquired a second 2018 first-rounder in trading back from No. 12, allowing the Texans to take Deshaun Watson, and Brown admitted that pick could be shopped as part of a package to acquire a QB of the future. Expect Cleveland to continue to be linked to Jimmy Garoppolo and A.J. McCarron.
Source: The Chronicle

Apr 28 - 10:15 AM

[Ray_Dogg]

GB ain't taking a QB there. Just trying to get a team to trade to that slot.

[clyde21]

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Damn, they already have Hundley too whom I really want to pry off their hands.

If they take Kizer, I'd try and give them a 4th for Hundley and call it a day.

[clyde21]

Which teams might still be looking to take a QB? Obviously us and the Browns. Who else might take one in the 2nd/3rd?

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[CalamityX12]

GB ain't looking for QB.... OL, DT, LB, RB.... they have those needs to fill

[clyde21]

Wish we were still in a true 3-4. I'd put Thomas at OLB with Armstead and Buckner as our 5-techs. With Bowman and Foster in the middle and Ronald Blair on the other side and it'd be a done deal.

That said, these days everyone gives hybrid looks anyways so hopefully we'll some looks in that instance throughout the year.

[CalamityX12]

Which teams might still be looking to take a QB? Obviously us and the Browns. Who else might take one in the 2nd/3rd?

Teams that I feel need to reach now?

Jets only because Kizer of all people fell within distance.
Bills maybe?
AZ definitely.


I honestly feel those 3 would posed the most need that makes sense to me.

I think Minny will pass.

Browns do have their 2nd so they could offer a big trade up.