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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#821 » by Jikkle » Fri May 23, 2025 8:05 am

clyde21 wrote:this FO just does a bunch of weird stuff man, giving 30m a year to WR that wasn't gonna get anywhere near 100 catches in a season is just tip of the iceberg.

giving your QB $55m a pop but refusing to invest in an OL that can protect him.

drafting kickers and punters high.

refusing to update the special teams for several years until you had no choice.

drafting bad early but well later int eh draft.

lol...just a super weird team.


That's kinda more on Shanahan than the FO though.

I think what you listed above is why they tapered down Shanahan's power a bit this past offseason and kinda told him to stick more to coaching.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#822 » by clyde21 » Fri May 23, 2025 1:00 pm

Jikkle wrote:
clyde21 wrote:this FO just does a bunch of weird stuff man, giving 30m a year to WR that wasn't gonna get anywhere near 100 catches in a season is just tip of the iceberg.

giving your QB $55m a pop but refusing to invest in an OL that can protect him.

drafting kickers and punters high.

refusing to update the special teams for several years until you had no choice.

drafting bad early but well later int eh draft.

lol...just a super weird team.


That's kinda more on Shanahan than the FO though.

I think what you listed above is why they tapered down Shanahan's power a bit this past offseason and kinda told him to stick more to coaching.


Did that actually happen or are we just assuming it happened?
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#823 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri May 23, 2025 5:33 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
clyde21 wrote:this FO just does a bunch of weird stuff man, giving 30m a year to WR that wasn't gonna get anywhere near 100 catches in a season is just tip of the iceberg.

giving your QB $55m a pop but refusing to invest in an OL that can protect him.

drafting kickers and punters high.

refusing to update the special teams for several years until you had no choice.

drafting bad early but well later int eh draft.

lol...just a super weird team.


That's kinda more on Shanahan than the FO though.

I think what you listed above is why they tapered down Shanahan's power a bit this past offseason and kinda told him to stick more to coaching.


Did that actually happen or are we just assuming it happened?


It is very clear he overruled everyone to make Watkins the pick in the late-4th round. Tariq Ahmad as much as said that explicitly.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#824 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri May 23, 2025 6:38 pm

I've been looking at the roster/depth chart, and I've got to say, I think the CB position is an understated issue. Obviously we have two good young starters, assuming Green continues to play well. But behind them, it gets ugly awfully quickly. Got to hope Upton Stout can come in and start from the jump, but that's a big ask for a rookie.

Then there's Darrell Luter, who has never shown anything to make you think he's an NFL player. Tre Brown has some talent, but he's an undersized player with an extensive injury history. Behind them, it's arguably worse with Siran Neal, Dallis Flowers, Chase Lucas, Jakob Robinson, and Derrick Canteen. I know Lucas was on the team last year, and I know two are rookies, but none of those guys move the needle at all for me. If one of the top two guys go down, we're in serious trouble.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#825 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri May 23, 2025 7:08 pm

Re: my post above, I would seriously consider going after Asante Samuel Jr. He's got to be cheap at this point and we could disguise his biggest issues by letting him play mostly in zone as the 3rd or 4th CB. Most of the rest of the guys still on the market are in their 30s.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#826 » by clyde21 » Fri May 23, 2025 7:44 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
Jikkle wrote:
That's kinda more on Shanahan than the FO though.

I think what you listed above is why they tapered down Shanahan's power a bit this past offseason and kinda told him to stick more to coaching.


Did that actually happen or are we just assuming it happened?


It is very clear he overruled everyone to make Watkins the pick in the late-4th round. Tariq Ahmad as much as said that explicitly.


Jordan Watkins guaranteed to bust then
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#827 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri May 23, 2025 8:23 pm

clyde21 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Did that actually happen or are we just assuming it happened?


It is very clear he overruled everyone to make Watkins the pick in the late-4th round. Tariq Ahmad as much as said that explicitly.


Jordan Watkins guaranteed to bust then


I mean, it's pretty hard not to feel that way. Shades of Dante Pettis when I hear that. Though Pettis had the physical talent to play in the league. That was more of a mental thing. That said, I haven't watched much of Watkins, but guys who grind tape have said that he doesn't block consistently, takes plays off, etc. Not holding my breath on that one, but we'll see.

Could have taken Carson Vinson or Marcus Mbow with that pick, so that does kind of sting....
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#828 » by Jikkle » Mon May 26, 2025 9:15 pm

Didn't realize Amari Cooper was still a free agent until Bleacher Report brought him up as a FA option for the 9ers.

I actually think that would be a good signing for the right price and if it was a 1 or 2 year deal.

I don't think you can count on him to play every snap in every game but as someone that you manage their workload and maybe you split time with Aiyuk until Aiyuk gets back up to speed I think he could bring some quality impact to the team.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#829 » by clyde21 » Tue May 27, 2025 4:34 am

Jikkle wrote:Didn't realize Amari Cooper was still a free agent until Bleacher Report brought him up as a FA option for the 9ers.

I actually think that would be a good signing for the right price and if it was a 1 or 2 year deal.

I don't think you can count on him to play every snap in every game but as someone that you manage their workload and maybe you split time with Aiyuk until Aiyuk gets back up to speed I think he could bring some quality impact to the team.


doesn't seem like a great fit in this scheme at this point and we've got plenty of pass catchers already even if Aiyuk isn't ready. team will probably want to give as much burn as possible on the young guys (Pearsall, Cowing, Watkins) instead of Cooper, or at least should. add in Jennings, Robinson, Kittle, Farrell and even Neyor who's intriguing and don't see a need here right now.

also Cooper looked kinda cashed with the Bills last year. not much left in the tank there I think.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#830 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue May 27, 2025 3:37 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Jikkle wrote:Didn't realize Amari Cooper was still a free agent until Bleacher Report brought him up as a FA option for the 9ers.

I actually think that would be a good signing for the right price and if it was a 1 or 2 year deal.

I don't think you can count on him to play every snap in every game but as someone that you manage their workload and maybe you split time with Aiyuk until Aiyuk gets back up to speed I think he could bring some quality impact to the team.


doesn't seem like a great fit in this scheme at this point and we've got plenty of pass catchers already even if Aiyuk isn't ready. team will probably want to give as much burn as possible on the young guys (Pearsall, Cowing, Watkins) instead of Cooper, or at least should. add in Jennings, Robinson, Kittle, Farrell and even Neyor who's intriguing and don't see a need here right now.

also Cooper looked kinda cashed with the Bills last year. not much left in the tank there I think.


The Demarcus Robinson signing is odd because we really need him for the start of the year when Aiyuk is out and we don't have another true X, but he's likely to be suspended for the first three games for a DUI. If we didn't already have Robinson in that vet role, I'd strongly consider Cooper, even if only as a few-game stopgap, but I can't see carrying both of them.

With Robinson and a healthy Aiyuk, I think we're in very good shape at WR. Aiyuk, Pearsall, Jennings, and Robinson with (hopefully) some Cowing mixed in is a strong group with diverse skill sets. But Pearsall, Jennings, and Cowing to start the season ain't great, and God forbid one of them gets hurt....

I'm not going to have any expectations for Watkins until we see something on the field.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#831 » by clyde21 » Tue May 27, 2025 3:45 pm

Watkins has the Shanahan kiss of death so I don't either
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#832 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue May 27, 2025 9:17 pm

I finally got around to satisfying my curiosity on something. I looked into where and when Jake Brendel was born and how that intersected with Chris Foerster, because the only reason I could come up with as to why Brendel is still on the team - and starting, no less - is because he is Foerster's love child.

Well, well, well. Turns out that Brendel was born in Madison, WI in September of 1992. Where was Foerster coaching at the time? U of Minnesota. A short four-hour drive away. Coincidence? I think not!!! Now if only we could find a way to use this absolutely irrefutable evidence to get Brendel out of the lineup....
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#833 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed May 28, 2025 8:57 pm

49ers waive Wishnowsky. So much for that 4th round pick
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#834 » by vvoland » Wed May 28, 2025 9:32 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:49ers waive Wishnowsky. So much for that 4th round pick


But I thought he had that australian punt that is impossible to catch and always lands inside the 5?
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#835 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed May 28, 2025 9:32 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:49ers waive Wishnowsky. So much for that 4th round pick


He made it past his rookie deal, anyway. But yeah, pretty mediocre for the vast majority of his Niner career. Not a good use of the pick.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#836 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed May 28, 2025 9:33 pm

He went five picks after Maxx Crosby. Ha!
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#837 » by 49ermojo » Wed May 28, 2025 9:44 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:He went five picks after Maxx Crosby. Ha!


And we trade down from 104 to 110
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#838 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed May 28, 2025 9:49 pm

49ermojo wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:He went five picks after Maxx Crosby. Ha!


And we trade down from 104 to 110


Oof! Forgot about that. That's brutal.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#839 » by Harry Palmer » Wed May 28, 2025 9:56 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:I finally got around to satisfying my curiosity on something. I looked into where and when Jake Brendel was born and how that intersected with Chris Foerster, because the only reason I could come up with as to why Brendel is still on the team - and starting, no less - is because he is Foerster's love child.

Well, well, well. Turns out that Brendel was born in Madison, WI in September of 1992. Where was Foerster coaching at the time? U of Minnesota. A short four-hour drive away. Coincidence? I think not!!! Now if only we could find a way to use this absolutely irrefutable evidence to get Brendel out of the lineup....


In the age of Trump, it might do the opposite; Trent will be waived and replaced with Jake Foerster.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#840 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu May 29, 2025 4:34 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:I finally got around to satisfying my curiosity on something. I looked into where and when Jake Brendel was born and how that intersected with Chris Foerster, because the only reason I could come up with as to why Brendel is still on the team - and starting, no less - is because he is Foerster's love child.

Well, well, well. Turns out that Brendel was born in Madison, WI in September of 1992. Where was Foerster coaching at the time? U of Minnesota. A short four-hour drive away. Coincidence? I think not!!! Now if only we could find a way to use this absolutely irrefutable evidence to get Brendel out of the lineup....


In the age of Trump, it might do the opposite; Trent will be waived and replaced with Jake Foerster.


Yep. Pure meritocracy from now on, nation wide.

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