Alan Faneca

ahonui06 · Post #1 » by **ahonui06** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:06 pm

When NYJ cuts Faneca, the 49ers should be all over that.

RIPskaterdude · Post #2 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:10 pm

They just did.

The New York Jets have released veteran Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca, parting ways with one of the leaders of an offensive line that paved the way for the league's top-rushing offense.

Faneca, who played two seasons with New York after 10 years in Pittsburgh, will be replaced by second-round pick Vladimir Ducasse or Matt Slauson, last year's sixth-round selection.

General manager Mike Tannenbaum says he appreciates what Faneca did for the Jets but it's time for the organization to move on. The team released the nine-time Pro Bowl selection even though he's owed $5.2 million in guaranteed salary this year.

Faneca's age - he's 33 - and slip in production were also likely factors in him being cut.

and1GS · Post #3 » by **and1GS** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:39 pm

That would be dope if we got Faneca. Him and Baas rotating opposite Iupati would be an insane upgrade over last year.

ahonui06 · Post #4 » by **ahonui06** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:26 am

I just read an article that said Iupati will be competing for the LG spot. I think this must be a typo because Baas is LG. Unless Baas is moving to RG and Iupati takes over LG. No way should Rachal be starting with Iupati and Baas.

Hotstove907 · Post #5 » by **Hotstove907** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:37 pm

They should be all over Faneca. He'd be great for these young Linemen to learn from on and off the field.

thesack12 · Post #6 » by **thesack12** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:05 am

I'm guessing Faneca will sign with a legitmate contender or go back to the Steelers. I don't really se Frisco being in the mix.

RIPskaterdude · Post #7 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:59 am

ahonui06 wrote:I just read an article that said Iupati will be competing for the LG spot. I think this must be a typo because Baas is LG. Unless Baas is moving to RG and Iupati takes over LG. No way should Rachal be starting with Iupati and Baas.

Baas also just signed a 1 year deal with the team, and will be a unrestricted FA next year, so the team wants to be prepared in case he walks.

Commodor · Post #8 » by **Commodor** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:44 am

thesack12 wrote:I'm guessing Faneca will sign with a legitmate contender or go back to the Steelers. I don't really se Frisco being in the mix.

The niners are a Faneca away from being a true contender.

thesack12 · Post #9 » by **thesack12** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:54 pm

ivang101 wrote:
thesack12 wrote:I'm guessing Faneca will sign with a legitmate contender or go back to the Steelers. I don't really se Frisco being in the mix.

The niners are a Faneca away from being a true contender.

Contender to win the NFC west, yeah. Contender to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl, no.

This team still has legitimate questions about its secondary. Mays is a freak athlete but he hasn't shown much in the way of being an impact football player. They also didn't address corner until the 7th round, that dude may not even make the team let alone contribute. New Orleans, Green Bay, Minnesota (with Favre), and Dallas would all shred this secondary.

Frisco also needs to find a consistent pass rush from somewhere. Not being able to apply consistent pressure on the passer only further amplifies the weak secondary, and vice versa. Being subpar in both areas, is not a good elixir.

The o-line should be better, but its not real hard to be better than being ranked in the 30's. Plus, they will be relying heavily on the 2 rookies.

Ginn should really improve the return game. I think dude could improve field position by additional 10 yards or so a possession compared to the last few seasons, which would be highly beneficial.

Then as it usually does in this league, it all comes back to the QB. Last season Alex played as well as he has in his entire career, with the possible exception of the year under Norv Turner. But lets just be real, Alex as your starting Qube is still a shaky proposition.

Commodor · Post #10 » by **Commodor** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:57 pm

See, you act like our secondary is just a complete dud and that we have no talent there at all. Between Spencer and Clements, with possibly Bly, Harris, and Brown backing them up we should have enough to make a deep push in the playoffs. Our defense was top in the league and most of the pieces are still there. Truthfully I think the only teams with a better defense than us in the NFC is Minnesota and Chicago. Even with an older secondary we'll be fine because we have the best LB corp in the NFC, possibly the NFL, and a solid down 3. With Goldson at FS and lewis and mays rotating at SS our safeties are probably one of the top tandems in the league also.

Our Offense is young but definetly improving. Our biggest, and possibly only weakness was the OL. After this draft we should be one of the best by the end of the year, if not next year. We have a Pro-Bowl RB, we have a ton of talent at the WR area. Our TE are the best in the league, and our return game has improved 100% since last year. I think with a line Smith will be better than ever. Stop being so pessimistic sack, times are looking beautiful in SF. Again i stand by the niners with a veteran like faneca to speed up the development of our young talent will be a contender.

ahonui06 · Post #11 » by **ahonui06** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:54 pm

Actually Matt Maiocco just reported that Goldson will move to SS and Mays will play FS. I don't really agree with that, but that's what Singletary wants.

and1GS · Post #12 » by **and1GS** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:19 am

ahonui06 wrote:Actually Matt Maiocco just reported that Goldson will move to SS and Mays will play FS. I don't really agree with that, but that's what Singletary wants.

If you think Mays would be bad in pass coverage, Goldson would be even worse.

sidenote: Matt Maiocco just came in to talk to my class a couple weeks ago. Cool guy. He said his blog is nearly 100% fact from people he has interviewed. Very little opinion is put in there.

ahonui06 · Post #13 » by **ahonui06** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:12 am

and1GS wrote:
ahonui06 wrote:Actually Matt Maiocco just reported that Goldson will move to SS and Mays will play FS. I don't really agree with that, but that's what Singletary wants.

If you think Mays would be bad in pass coverage, Goldson would be even worse.

sidenote: Matt Maiocco just came in to talk to my class a couple weeks ago. Cool guy. He said his blog is nearly 100% fact from people he has interviewed. Very little opinion is put in there.

Well if Maiocco is almost all fact than I guess Goldson is gonna shift over to SS and Mays is gonna be FS. And for some weird reason Chilo Rachal is going to keep his RG spot and Baas and Iupati are going to compete for the LG. I rather just have Iupati take over RG and move Rachal to the bench. Baas did a good job last year opening holes for Gore and also protecting Alex Smith. The glaring weaknesses was our RT and Chilo Rachal getting beaten and allowing a sack at least once every game.

thesack12 · Post #14 » by **thesack12** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:06 am

Ivang:

I'm not saying that the secondary is utterly hopeless, but I also wouldn't say it is super solid either. Clements is aging rapidly and his play is reflecting it. He was borderline awful last year, and there is a reason why they are considering moving him inside to safety. Bly is also aging, and he has never really been a top tier corner. He has been a very solid/useful player, but I don't get real excited having him back there. Brown/Spencer both had great years last season, and truthfully we are relying on them heavily to repeat their performances the question is whether they can or not. As for safeties, we all know Roman is trash. I know you are high on Mays, but even if he does become a player it likely won't be this year. Goldson is really the only guy I can half way trust @ safety, but thats just me.

The main reason why I am concerned with the secondary is because the NFC is absolutely loaded with quality QB/recieving combos. New Orleans are the champs for a reason. Green Bay rolls with ARod/Driver, Jennings, Finley. Minnesota is very strong with Favre/Rice, Berrian, Harvin, Shiancoe. Dallas is real solid with Romo/Austin/Witten/Williams, and now Bryant. Hell all the playoff caliber NFC teams have a decent passing game, New York, Philly (If Kolb continues his strong play), Seattle, and McNabb will seriously improve Washington.

In conclusion, I'm glad some of you guys are confident with the secondary but IMO its shaky, very shaky. Plus like I said before the lack of a true/comsistent pass rush puts additional pressure on the DB's...................

To get away from my thread hijack and get back to Faneca, looks like I was wrong about him wantng to go to a "legitimate" contender. Evidently money was a big motivation for him because he got like 2.5 mil on a 1 year deal with Arizona, that on top of the 6+ mil New York owes him.

ahonui06 · Post #15 » by **ahonui06** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:30 am

thesack12 wrote:Ivang:

I'm not saying that the secondary is utterly hopeless, but I also wouldn't say it is super solid either. Clements is aging rapidly and his play is reflecting it. He was borderline awful last year, and there is a reason why they are considering moving him inside to safety. Bly is also aging, and he has never really been a top tier corner. He has been a very solid/useful player, but I don't get real excited having him back there. Brown/Spencer both had great years last season, and truthfully we are relying on them heavily to repeat their performances the question is whether they can or not. As for safeties, we all know Roman is trash. I know you are high on Mays, but even if he does become a player it likely won't be this year. Goldson is really the only guy I can half way trust @ safety, but thats just me.

The main reason why I am concerned with the secondary is because the NFC is absolutely loaded with quality QB/recieving combos. New Orleans are the champs for a reason. Green Bay rolls with ARod/Driver, Jennings, Finley. Minnesota is very strong with Favre/Rice, Berrian, Harvin, Shiancoe. Dallas is real solid with Romo/Austin/Witten/Williams, and now Bryant. Hell all the playoff caliber NFC teams have a decent passing game, New York, Philly (If Kolb continues his strong play), Seattle, and McNabb will seriously improve Washington.

In conclusion, I'm glad some of you guys are confident with the secondary but IMO its shaky, very shaky. Plus like I said before the lack of a true/comsistent pass rush puts additional pressure on the DB's...................

To get away from my thread hijack and get back to Faneca, looks like I was wrong about him wantng to go to a "legitimate" contender. Evidently money was a big motivation for him because he got like 2.5 mil on a 1 year deal with Arizona, that on top of the 6+ mil New York owes him.

49ers need to address the CB position. Spencer is decent, Tarell Brown was terrible last year. Walt Harris tore his ACL and is 36 and Clements is also old. 49ers need to do something about the CB position ASAP.

RIPskaterdude · Post #16 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:26 am

Harris isn't even on the team right now. Both him and Bly are still FA's...at least, last time I looked.

ahonui06 · Post #17 » by **ahonui06** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:05 pm

I know Bly isn't coming back because he was awful and was "Dre being Dre". I think the 49ers are going to sign Harris to a 1 year deal because even at 36 he's better than Tarell Brown.

thesack12 · Post #18 » by **thesack12** » Sat May 1, 2010 12:28 am

I actually thought Brown was solid last year. But then again I don't expect much out of him, so when he makes a couple plays here and there it catches my attention.

Dalbi · Post #19 » by **Dalbi** » Sat May 1, 2010 3:55 am

The reason Iupati is playing left guard is because that is where he played in college and when moved to right he sometimes struggled at senior bowl practices. I think we should let Bass and Rachal compete for right starting guard.

I actually think Goldson did not do that bad as free safety last year. I think he is better at free safety than Mays. Unfortunately both are probably best at strong safety. I am upset we did not focus more strongly on the secondary. We signed two athletic and physical secondary players. I feel we should have targeted Earl Thomas over two O Line but I am content with two o-line. Also we should have gone for Syd Quan Thompson in seventh round. He will be a steal. Adams was signed for typical Singletary reason. He can be physical. Syd Quan will be a better NFL player than Adams.

This post has nothing to do with Faneca but I had to reply to some things.

and1GS · Post #20 » by **and1GS** » Sat May 1, 2010 8:35 pm

ahonui06 wrote:I know Bly isn't coming back because he was awful and was "Dre being Dre". I think the 49ers are going to sign Harris to a 1 year deal because even at 36 he's better than Tarell Brown.

haha Dre was a disgrace to Niner football. Showboating when we're getting killed and always going for the interception. He reminded me of DeAngelo Hall because any time he'd do something slightly important he'd celebrate it like it was an interception return for a TD in the superbowl.