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He said the 49ers look broken and Kaepernick has his eyes down like he doesn't know what he's doing. Very concerning, I've always respected his insights.


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I think I saw a stat on espn tonight that kaepernick only has 2 TDs in the 4th quarter over the last 2 years.

Anybody see that? If so that's nuts.


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generaldreedle wrote:He said the 49ers look broken and Kaepernick has his eyes down like he doesn't know what he's doing. Very concerning, I've always respected his insights.


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He has never looked like he knows what he's doing.

He makes one read. If that's not there he scrambles and hopes the D breaks down.

Do you know how annoying that would be for an o-lineman? You push your guys outside, they get behind you, and your quarterback doesn't step up while keeping his eyes down field.

Some people think that when he runs around he's making something out of nothing. They couldn't be more wrong. 90% of the time he's making nothing out of something.

Maybe next year he will learn the position and not be so dependent on raw talent.

Now both Joe Montana and Steve Young have called out Kaepernick.

generaldreedle wrote:He said the 49ers look broken and Kaepernick has his eyes down like he doesn't know what he's doing. Very concerning, I've always respected his insights.


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I didn't take Young's comments that way. I took it more as he was rattled and worried about the blitzers around him. The best solution is to pass block better. Simple

I think Patterson you may be right, but still his analysis of the team is troubling

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Pattersonca65 wrote:

generaldreedle wrote:He said the 49ers look broken and Kaepernick has his eyes down like he doesn't know what he's doing. Very concerning, I've always respected his insights.


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I didn't take Young's comments that way. I took it more as he was rattled and worried about the blitzers around him. The best solution is to pass block better. Simple

You're way off. The reason the o-line looks great on the run and terrible on the pass is because Colin can't stay in the pocket. You can't block for your QB when you don't know where he's going.

"“Colin looks like – guys that really know what they’re doing, their eyes are up. Quarterbacks that aren’t sure, their eyes come down. As soon as they get to the back of their drop, their eyes come down because they want to find out what’s happening around them. They start to move. And that’s what’s happening to him."

"he should tie his legs, physically, so he can’t do anything but throw from the pocket,”

"something’s wrong with these guys. There’s a bad vibe. Guys on and off the field"

"I walked away yesterday saying ‘Boy, that team is not even close to what the teams they were the last couple years. Ready to take things on deep into January."

Young wants him to stay in the pocket and look down field.

Wow look at the effort by Marcus Martin on that play. Assuming it's him. Looked like he thought he was an extra on the walking dead set.

There were a lot of other plays where he didn't need to bail out, but that wasn't one of them. If he tried to force the first read it's probably a pick-6. CB was all over it. He needed to come back and dump it to the RB to get the first down. It looked like that was was he was trying to do, but pressure came at him right up the middle before he could get it off. There was also another bigger play opportunity available if wasn't getting chased with the slot receiver breaking open and sitting down. But he was already forced out by then.

He bailed out a lot in this game early, but all that play showed was pressure coming right up the middle and not giving him a chance to throw to the second option.

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:

Pattersonca65 wrote:

generaldreedle wrote:He said the 49ers look broken and Kaepernick has his eyes down like he doesn't know what he's doing. Very concerning, I've always respected his insights.


You're way off. The reason the o-line looks great on the run and terrible on the pass is because Colin can't stay in the pocket. You can't block for your QB when you don't know where he's going.
years. Ready to take things on deep into January."

Young wants him to stay in the pocket and look down field.

I missed the first part of the interview as I was leaving work. I am guessing that first comment is yours and noit Youngs. The offensive line has not looked great on the run. Far from it. The run blocking this year has been average at best. The line can't pass block consisently at all regardless of where Kapernick is. Lineman are getting flat out beat, You can't blame the offensive line's woes on Kaernick. Yes, Kapernick doesn't get the ball off quickly and scrambles, but poor blocking and getting blown by is not his fault. Brent Jones stated that is wordt offensive line play he has seen from the 49ers in years. Despite Kap's flaws, the 49ers have too much invested in that oline for them to be playing the way they are.

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:You're way off. The reason the o-line looks great on the run and terrible on the pass is because Colin can't stay in the pocket. You can't block for your QB when you don't know where he's going.

"“Colin looks like – guys that really know what they’re doing, their eyes are up. Quarterbacks that aren’t sure, their eyes come down. As soon as they get to the back of their drop, their eyes come down because they want to find out what’s happening around them. They start to move. And that’s what’s happening to him."

"he should tie his legs, physically, so he can’t do anything but throw from the pocket,”

"something’s wrong with these guys. There’s a bad vibe. Guys on and off the field"

"I walked away yesterday saying ‘Boy, that team is not even close to what the teams they were the last couple years. Ready to take things on deep into January."

Young wants him to stay in the pocket and look down field.

Kind of a head-scratcher of a clip to try to argue your point. Coverage is tight and Kap gets pressure right up the middle. Perhaps he could have gotten the ball off to the RB quickly instead of fleeing the pocket, but certainly he couldn't have stayed in the pocket and avoided the pressure.

CrimsonCrew wrote:

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:You're way off. The reason the o-line looks great on the run and terrible on the pass is because Colin can't stay in the pocket. You can't block for your QB when you don't know where he's going.

"“Colin looks like – guys that really know what they’re doing, their eyes are up. Quarterbacks that aren’t sure, their eyes come down. As soon as they get to the back of their drop, their eyes come down because they want to find out what’s happening around them. They start to move. And that’s what’s happening to him."

"he should tie his legs, physically, so he can’t do anything but throw from the pocket,”

"something’s wrong with these guys. There’s a bad vibe. Guys on and off the field"

"I walked away yesterday saying ‘Boy, that team is not even close to what the teams they were the last couple years. Ready to take things on deep into January."

Young wants him to stay in the pocket and look down field.

Kind of a head-scratcher of a clip to try to argue your point. Coverage is tight and Kap gets pressure right up the middle. Perhaps he could have gotten the ball off to the RB quickly instead of fleeing the pocket, but certainly he couldn't have stayed in the pocket and avoided the pressure.

His first option was covered, but a half of a second later 4 were wide open and he ran before he got pressure. Classic Kap.

This is the moment the o-line gave in. As you can see Kape is off the screen and no one is near him. He has plenty of places to throw to, but didn't make it past his first read despite having plenty of time.

ummm.... right

maybe try looking for an unidentified white colored object in the middle of the screen. It's the one breaking through the sea of red jerseys maybe a smidge over two seconds after the ball was snapped. Maybe Kap should have stayed patient and moved up in the pocket so he could get his head properly taken off instead of running for his life. Then we could get our savior Blaine into the game...

I'm certain other good examples existed earlier in the game where he did have a clean pocket and bailed, but all this play shows is that our line allowed immediate pressure right up the middle which is a nightmare for any QB. Yes, he could stood in the pocket and taken a big hit to make the check down to the RB. Problem is the RB's in the middle of the field and it would have basically been a blind snap throw. There's a major risk on making that type of throw over the middle. He didn't even have time to do anything more than glance at the RB before making that throw. If he guesses on that type of throw and another defender's hanging around in the area then it could be pick 6 end of game type play.

Unless Kap can perform some type of magic to make the defender vanish, or throw left handed on the run without his feet set, there's absolutely no way for him to get the ball to any open WR on that play because he's fleeing for his life. He's got one open RB previously mentioned. Everyone else is covered until after he's been flushed.

Ease_Ur_Storm wrote:ummm.... right

maybe try looking for an unidentified white colored object in the middle of the screen. It's the one breaking through the sea of red jerseys maybe a smidge over two seconds after the ball was snapped.

The picture I posted above, where the defender is about 3-4 steps away from Kap, is 3.3 seconds after the snap.

Almost every single option he had was open... except his first read.

This is the perfect example of why Kap needs to learn to go through his reads and how fans continue to make excuses for him

Keep your eyes up! Stop depending on your athleticism!

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:His first option was covered, but a half of a second later 4 were wide open and he ran before he got pressure. Classic Kap.

This is the moment the o-line gave in. As you can see Kape is off the screen and no one is near him. He has plenty of places to throw to, but didn't make it past his first read despite having plenty of time.

I disagree that he has plenty of places to throw. He has some. Hyde is open in the flat. The outside receiver on the right side (Johnson?) is probably his best look and would have had a big play. Davis was running an in-breaking route directly into coverage, the CB was waiting to jump an out to Boldin, and Crabtree had a guy standing right in front of him. Those three were about as blanketed as guys get in a zone.

Look, I'm not defending Kap. He needed to get the ball off quicker there. That just wasn't a case where he needed to step up to avoid outside pressure.

I don't know anyone who thinks Kapernick is an elite passer or doesn't have areas he can improve on. But besides Steve Young, a number of people including Brent Jones and Tim Ryan have commented that the oline play was bad. Despite Kap's flaws, the line needs to pass block much better. With better oline play, Kaepernick will look better