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Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:08 pm
by generaldreedle

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:18 pm
by zman1
Not trying to defend Kap, he had a horrid game. Just wondering about the passes vs the blitz though, does the team react well to those? Do they give Kap a good out and he is just missing it? Seems pretty rare that we go with quick hitting passes.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:24 pm
by generaldreedle
Cosell was on knbr, he said kaepernick had bad mechanics, threw too late, and on the third quarter int had plenty of time and inexplicably moved to his right so he was again late on his throws.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:27 pm
by Pattersonca65
zman1 wrote:Not trying to defend Kap, he had a horrid game. Just wondering about the passes vs the blitz though, does the team react well to those? Do they give Kap a good out and he is just missing it? Seems pretty rare that we go with quick hitting passes.


He throw the shorter routes against Pitt. Teams don't even have to blitz. They can generate pressure against our line without it. Kap just fcked up early and then had the deer in the headlights look after that,

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:25 pm
by Ray_Dogg
Sometimes you don't get enough time to throw and sometimes players don't get open. Try throwing it away. You don't lose yards and you don't turn the ball over. Basic kindergarten QB concepts.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:45 am
by Jikkle
I've longed feared that Kaepernick has the one issue that nobody can really fix in that I just don't think he's capable of quickly processing information.

I don't believe he's stupid and he actually likely is smart but he seems like one that's a more deliberate thinker and not one that can just make quick decisions and judgments. And that's why he's behind on throws and that's why he makes such awful decisions because he's overwhelmed with too much information that needs to be processed quickly and his brain just can't handle it.

Some people are born with it and some people aren't. Just like people who play video games in that some of them are incredible at playing twitch shooters because they can quickly make the correct decision and some people no matter how much the try know what the correct move is but in the heat of the moment can't execute it in time.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:31 am
by zman1
Pattersonca65 wrote:
zman1 wrote:Not trying to defend Kap, he had a horrid game. Just wondering about the passes vs the blitz though, does the team react well to those? Do they give Kap a good out and he is just missing it? Seems pretty rare that we go with quick hitting passes.


He throw the shorter routes against Pitt. Teams don't even have to blitz. They can generate pressure against our line without it. Kap just fcked up early and then had the deer in the headlights look after that,


You did not address my issue at all, so why did you quote me? I am wondering how the team does adjusting to blitzes, as Cosell mentioned how bad Kap did on blitz situations.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:35 am
by wco81
Most successful QBs are doing all the reading presnap. Or they adjust th play and formation to get favorable match ups.

Brady isn't going thru progression on every play while dropping back. He's got 3 players who on almost every play are winning their match ups -- Edelman, Bronk and this year, Lewis. He just spreads them out so there's less chance of secondary defenders getting involved in the play.

Even against blitzes, Edelman like Welker before him is breaking open so that's all Brady has to read or anticipate, which way Edelman is going to cut based on what kind of leverage the defender has.

49ers obviously don't have such quick WRs, though too bad Bush isn't healthy. More importantly, the Oc and QB coaches are not running the kind of offense or teaching the QB on these presnap adjustments. Under Roman they ran multiple run formations with a lot of shifts presnap. That worked for a couple of seasons but the opponents caught up and the OL declined.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:19 pm
by generaldreedle
Cosell also said his mechanics on the last game were mistakes no qb should be making at this stage in his career. What was really depressing is Tomsula in his press conference said "We're not a drop back team." WTF, how are you supposed to win football games if you're not a drop back team, maybe if you have a team like Seattle --historically great defense, out of this world running back, and a qb who is better on the run and improvising, but we have none of those things, Kaep certainly can't improvise very well.

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:56 pm
by wco81
Ok but shouldn't the coaches be on the QB if his mechanics deteriorates?

Re: Greg Cosell on interceptions

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:11 pm
by Pattersonca65
Kap isn't an elite QB. He doesn't have Mannings quick release and decisions. He is rushing things because of pressure and I think that is messing up his mechanics. No excuse for his horrible passes and play last week. He is a QB with issues that could benefit from better pass protection. A QB with issues having to play with the worst oline in the league is a recipe for disaster