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OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 9:10 pm
by CrimsonCrew
Wasn't really sure where to post this. Ironic that center has been such an issue for us. Seems like a lot of guys we have let walk over the years have become solid starting centers elsewhere. Mike Person apparently the latest:

1. Atlanta Falcons (26th)

Pass blocking rank: 4th

Run blocking rank: 2nd

Penalties rank: 6th

Stud: What a difference a year makes. He was, quite frankly, awful last year as he played through injuries. But in 2015, Jake Matthews (+5.6) looks like one of the better linemen in the league.

Dud: The only player with a negative grade is right tackle Ryan Schraeder (-0.1), and you can thank J.J. Watt for that.

Summary: What a turnaround. Something you rarely see, Atlanta has morphed its scheme and personnel to achieve immediate results. Mike Person has been a revelation at center, and Chris Chester has proven to be a tremendous free agent pickup. Even Andy Levitre, who looked spent in Tennessee, has fit in seamlessly.

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 10:43 pm
by clyde21
If we get Kilgore back healthy and Davis back from w/e the hell he's doing, I don't think we're far off from having a solid OL. Just slide Boone back to the right side and find a LG (Thomas?). Relegate Martin to the bench.

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 11:10 pm
by CrimsonCrew
clyde21 wrote:If we get Kilgore back healthy and Davis back from w/e the hell he's doing, I don't think we're far off from having a solid OL. Just slide Boone back to the right side and find a LG (Thomas?). Relegate Martin to the bench.


Yeah, the twin losses of Davis to "retirement" and Kilgore to prolonged injury really killed what could have been a team strength. Not sure we can trust Davis going forward, though, and I'm not at all confident we pay Boone.

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 11:18 pm
by clyde21
CrimsonCrew wrote:
clyde21 wrote:If we get Kilgore back healthy and Davis back from w/e the hell he's doing, I don't think we're far off from having a solid OL. Just slide Boone back to the right side and find a LG (Thomas?). Relegate Martin to the bench.


Yeah, the twin losses of Davis to "retirement" and Kilgore to prolonged injury really killed what could have been a team strength. Not sure we can trust Davis going forward, though, and I'm not at all confident we pay Boone.


Do we have a choice? Wasn't that part of the reason we let Iupati walk?

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 11:47 pm
by Pattersonca65
clyde21 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
clyde21 wrote:If we get Kilgore back healthy and Davis back from w/e the hell he's doing, I don't think we're far off from having a solid OL. Just slide Boone back to the right side and find a LG (Thomas?). Relegate Martin to the bench.


Yeah, the twin losses of Davis to "retirement" and Kilgore to prolonged injury really killed what could have been a team strength. Not sure we can trust Davis going forward, though, and I'm not at all confident we pay Boone.


Do we have a choice? Wasn't that part of the reason we let Iupati walk?


From what I've read they didn't want to pay Iupati because he is often injured, inconsistent pass blocker, and not suited for ZBS.

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 11:48 pm
by Pattersonca65
CrimsonCrew wrote:
clyde21 wrote:If we get Kilgore back healthy and Davis back from w/e the hell he's doing, I don't think we're far off from having a solid OL. Just slide Boone back your the right side and find a LG (Thomas?). Relegate Martin to the bench.


Yeah, the twin losses of Davis to "retirement" and Kilgore to prolonged injury really killed what could have been a team strength. Not sure we can trust Davis going forward, though, and I'm not at all confident we pay Boone.


If they let Boone walk then what?

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Wed Oct 7, 2015 11:56 pm
by clyde21
Pattersonca65 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Yeah, the twin losses of Davis to "retirement" and Kilgore to prolonged injury really killed what could have been a team strength. Not sure we can trust Davis going forward, though, and I'm not at all confident we pay Boone.


Do we have a choice? Wasn't that part of the reason we let Iupati walk?


From what I've read they didn't want to pay Iupati because he is often injured, inconsistent pass blocker, and not suited for ZBS.


Almost all of our OL are better in a man-blocking scheme.

Devey and Pears are just terrible in any scheme.

Re: OL, ugh

Posted: Thu Oct 8, 2015 12:03 am
by Pattersonca65
clyde21 wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Do we have a choice? Wasn't that part of the reason we let Iupati walk?


From what I've read they didn't want to pay Iupati because he is often injured, inconsistent pass blocker, and not suited for ZBS.


Almost all of our OL are better in a man-blocking scheme.

Devey and Pears are just terrible in any scheme.


LMAO. That is so true. Supposedly, Boone and Staley are more mobile than Iupati and therefore better suited to play ZBS than Iupati. That is what was thrown out there I am sure initially by the coaching staff.