I Wouldn't Re-Sign Eric Reid

NinerSickness · Post #1 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:37 am

I hate to admit it, because he was such a great player, but I think Eric Reid is broken. He doesn't play like he did before getting concussed. He's still ok, but I think he's hesitant now.

Maybe they should try to convert him to CB. He's fast enough. Otherwise, I don't see the point of keeping him around long term.

I think it should be Tartt & Ward as the starting safeties going forward.

Jikkle · Post #2 » by **Jikkle** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:46 am

He plays like he knows he's had too many concussions and doesn't play fearlessly like he did his rookie year so I agree it would be best to move on from him when his contract is up.

In fact to steal a page from your book Sick I would look to see what his trade market is this offseason.

On a side note even when Baalke gets a pick right he doesn't have much luck with them when it comes to things outside his control.

49er4life1979 · Post #3 » by **49er4life1979** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:47 am

NinerSickness wrote:I hate to admit it, because he was such a great player, but I think Eric Reid is broken. He doesn't play like he did before getting concussed. He's still ok, but I think he's hesitant now.

Maybe they should try to convert him to CB. He's fast enough. Otherwise, I don't see the point of keeping him around long term.

I think it should be Tartt & Ward as the starting safeties going forward.

I probably have to agree with you. Reid's best season was his rookie season in 2013. Since then he's been just decent, nothing special. And I really like the way Ward has played this season, so yes I can see Ward/Tartt combo going forward. Since 2011, no first rounder Baalke has drafted has become a star - Aldon Smith the exception...Reid is just decent, Ward will probably end up the same way, and too early to call on Armstead...Baalke hasnt done well with late first rounders. Lets see how he does when he's picking top 5 this spring.

NinerSickness · Post #4 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:49 am

Jikkle wrote:In fact to steal a page from your book Sick I would look to see what his trade market is this offseason.

49er4life1979 · Post #5 » by **49er4life1979** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:51 am

Now the one player I definitely want them to re-sign is Ian Williams. He's been one of very bright spots for us this season. Unless of course they want to let him walk and move Dial to NT and bring in Muhammad Wilkerson to play outside. Wilkerson, Dial, and Armstead as the future DL?

NinerSickness · Post #6 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:05 am

Dial would not make a good NT IMO. He's played there before, and he was bad.

I've mentioned this before, but Ward & Tartt played together in high school and are apparently best friends.

I_am_1z · Post #7 » by **I_am_1z** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:42 am

Let's not forget McCray is also in behind Ward who's pretty talented.

Possibly a trade can go down considering his contract is dirt cheap.

49er4life1979 · Post #8 » by **49er4life1979** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:52 am

NinerSickness wrote:Dial would not make a good NT IMO. He's played there before, and he was bad.

I've mentioned this before, but Ward & Tartt played together in high school and are apparently best friends.

Yep. And Ward's natural position is safety anyway. If he continues to play well, I can see Reid being expendable.

Pattersonca65 · Post #9 » by **Pattersonca65** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:24 am

Cosell mentioned Ward today in addition to Tartt as players on the 49ers he likes. He seems to like the 49er safeties in general

49rangER · Post #10 » by **49rangER** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:47 pm

Does Mangini's system have anything to do with his downfall?

To be honest nobody on the D is playing exceptionally well so its not all him.

Ward and Tart together might be fun to watch.

Ease_Ur_Storm · Post #11 » by **Ease_Ur_Storm** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:14 pm

Long term I'm optimistic about the defense. Right now the defense can't get any pressure on QB's without blitzing. That's the main problem right now. The front seven has been a constant transition and I count Bowman in there because he's been on and off all year as he works through his injury. Youth up front is the main reason for the inconsistent play. With that said they do have some good pieces to work with. Lynch when healthy has been very good, but they're missing an OLB on the other side. If the front seven can gel and they can add a viable OLB to replace Aldon then things can turn around pretty fast. They've had their major let downs but have been hanging in there most games while the offense sputters (third down conversion anyone?).

Pattersonca65 · Post #12 » by **Pattersonca65** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:40 pm

49rangER wrote:Does Mangini's system have anything to do with his downfall?

To be honest nobody on the D is playing exceptionally well so its not all him.

Ward and Tart together might be fun to watch.

I hate to say downfall because I don't think he is playing poorly overall. Early on the entire secondary was having issues with Mangini's complex zone schemes but Mangini has scaled that back. I can't say overall how Reid is playing but I think what is noticeable about him is he doesn't seem to have the same aggressiveness we've seen as a rookie. He isn't hitting people the same way probably due to concussions.

DoobieKeebler · Post #13 » by **DoobieKeebler** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:06 pm

I still would if the price was manageable.

But in the spirit of the thread, I'll say I wanted Baalke to trade Bowman during the 2015 off season because I didn't think Bowman's body would ever return to form, but that his value still may have been worth something. Or if Bowman did return to glory, much of what he had in the tank would likely be spent on a handful of middling seasons while the team got its s*** together.

Post #14 » by **CalamityX12** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:33 am

Reid is a keeper..

or else you're giving Baalke the clearance to draft a 3rd rd talent FS with an injury in the top 10 overall...

Post #15 » by **CalamityX12** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:34 am

Its also Mangenius complex system... give Reid another season under it and lets see... of course that implies Mangini to come back so that sucks

NinerSickness · Post #16 » by **NinerSickness** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:35 am

They should try Reid at nickel CB instead of Ward. Won't have to make as many big hits.

49er4life1979 · Post #17 » by **49er4life1979** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:19 pm

NinerSickness wrote:They should try Reid at nickel CB instead of Ward. Won't have to make as many big hits.

I dont think Reid is fast enough to play CB.

NinerSickness · Post #18 » by **NinerSickness** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:28 pm

49er4life1979 wrote:I dont think Reid is fast enough to play CB.

Neither do I, but I don't like him at safety any more; couldn't hurt to try him in the nickel.

Post #19 » by **CalamityX12** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:49 pm

He doesn't need to make the big hits... if he can, great! if not, I usually look at my SS for the big hits/run support....

If he plays coverage, takes away the deep ball, reads the QB, doesn't get out of place or lost, provides excellent defense in the middle of the field... I'm good!

Eric Berry is not a big hitter.
McCourty isn't one either.
Thomas isn't that great of a big hitter....

FS doesn't need to be great hitters...

Rookie Reid was such a monster.... !!! ahhhhh the days....

49er4life1979 · Post #20 » by **49er4life1979** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:39 pm

NinerSickness wrote:
49er4life1979 wrote:I dont think Reid is fast enough to play CB.

Neither do I, but I don't like him at safety any more; couldn't hurt to try him in the nickel.

So it would be terrible to put him at nickel (a very difficult position) if he is not fast enought for it