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http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/10/18/13323210/lisa-debartolo-tweet-jed-york-49ers-ceo-eddie-debartolo

Interesting. In the least it might add some fire under Jed to do something. Surely, as the season goes on the heat is going to turn up on the Yorks

Interesting to hear, and anything that puts pressure on Jed is good. However, I don't think we can realistically hope for Jed to go anywhere.

Baalke on the other hand, absolutely has to go.

York is paying for his football crimes that's for sure...

Shamelessly, the attention should be pointed at Baalke first n foremost. IMO

thesack12 wrote:Interesting to hear, and anything that puts pressure on Jed is good. However, I don't think we can realistically hope for Jed to go anywhere.

Baalke on the other hand, absolutely has to go.

I know. We are still suck with York but it has to be embarrassing for Jed. He sure made a point of how he goes to his uncle for advice. Hopefully this puts the media spotlight on him. This will definitely turn up the heat and hopefully get them to make some changes. Baalke for starters. I would get Marathe the hell out of there too.

Pattersonca65 wrote:

thesack12 wrote:Interesting to hear, and anything that puts pressure on Jed is good. However, I don't think we can realistically hope for Jed to go anywhere.

Baalke on the other hand, absolutely has to go.

I know. We are still suck with York but it has to be embarrassing for Jed. He sure made a point of how he goes to his uncle for advice. Hopefully this puts the media spotlight on him. This will definitely turn up the heat and hopefully get them to make some changes. Baalke for starters. I would get Marathe the hell out of there too.

Oh yeah, for sure. I like hearing stuff like this, because anything that paints Jed in a bad light and puts the heat on him only ups the chances that he will can Baalke. Maraathe was reassigned to a lower level position last offseason, the next step is his departure. Although I will say, I'm unaware of his relationship with Gamble who would theoretically be the one to replace Baalke.

So far Jed has failed on both aspects of "win with class." The organization has been far from classy, and they obviously aren't winning.

It's almost certain that Baalke is gone at the end of this season going by what Kawakami has been tweeting lately.

York isn't going anywhere since owning an NFL team is easy money and while I'm sure he hates being blasted by fans and the media the big pile of money helps ease the pain.



I actually have always believed that York does want to win and wants to be considered a great owner like his Uncle but he's just incompetent at doing it.

Pattersonca65 wrote:

thesack12 wrote:Interesting to hear, and anything that puts pressure on Jed is good. However, I don't think we can realistically hope for Jed to go anywhere.

Baalke on the other hand, absolutely has to go.

I know. We are still suck with York but it has to be embarrassing for Jed. He sure made a point of how he goes to his uncle for advice. Hopefully this puts the media spotlight on him. This will definitely turn up the heat and hopefully get them to make some changes. Baalke for starters. I would get Marathe the hell out of there too.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought Paraag was just the money/contracts guy, and on that end, I think he's done an excellent job.

But since you think he should go, is there anything in particular that I'm missing, or do you simply want to clean house?

Jikkle wrote:It's almost certain that Baalke is gone at the end of this season going by what Kawakami has been tweeting lately.

York isn't going anywhere since owning an NFL team is easy money and while I'm sure he hates being blasted by fans and the media the big pile of money helps ease the pain.

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I actually have always believed that York does want to win and wants to be considered a great owner like his Uncle but he's just incompetent at doing it.

I disagree that he WANTS to win. Nothing that he's demonstrated to date shows that he WANTS to win. I think if we win by accident, he feels like, "GREAT! I've accomplished something!" But when we lose, especially the way we've been losing with the exception of the Harbaugh years, he's completely aloof and unaccountable (his dad was the same way). We're $50M under the cap (read $50M he doesn't have to spend, and therefore pockets), and we don't have a legitimate starter on offense with the possible exception of Staley (who's nearing the end of the road) and Hyde (who apparently can't stay healthy for more than about a third of the season).

If winning were a priority, Baalke never would have been hired, and he CERTAINLY wouldn't have been retained instead of Harbaugh (at this level, GM's are a dime a dozen. Winning HC's are not). If winning were a priority, legitimate HC searches would have been conducted instead of giving the team to first Singletary, and then Tomsula. If winning were a priority, Jed has had YEARS to recognize that he's incapable of doing his job and hired somebody to run the football operations who knew what the hell he was doing. If winning were a priority, we wouldn't be watching the QB competition equivalent of Dumb and Dumber (that's not a commentary on actual intelligence, just so there's no misunderstanding, but a metaphor for how they play). If winning were a priority I don't believe we'd be witnessing the exodus of players and coaches over the last two years that we've seen, and I don't believe we'd be replacing them with literally the only option who would say yes.

I'm sorry if that reads somewhat harsh, as that's not my intent, but I vehemently disagree that Jed a) cares about winning, and b) is just incompetent. He undoubtedly is incompetent (worst owner in professional sports in my opinion, and arguably the worst owner in professional sports of all time; yes, I know he's not THE owner, but he's the face of ownership, and the only reason he has his job is because of nepotism), but I don't think "caring about winning" is mutually exclusive from "being incompetent." I think if mommy wasn't his boss he would have gotten fired LONG before Harbaugh was allowed to walk out the door.

wartyOne wrote:

Jikkle wrote:It's almost certain that Baalke is gone at the end of this season going by what Kawakami has been tweeting lately.

York isn't going anywhere since owning an NFL team is easy money and while I'm sure he hates being blasted by fans and the media the big pile of money helps ease the pain.

Watch on YouTube

I actually have always believed that York does want to win and wants to be considered a great owner like his Uncle but he's just incompetent at doing it.

I disagree that he WANTS to win. Nothing that he's demonstrated to date shows that he WANTS to win. I think if we win by accident, he feels like, "GREAT! I've accomplished something!" But when we lose, especially the way we've been losing with the exception of the Harbaugh years, he's completely aloof and unaccountable (his dad was the same way). We're $50M under the cap (read $50M he doesn't have to spend, and therefore pockets), and we don't have a legitimate starter on offense with the possible exception of Staley (who's nearing the end of the road) and Hyde (who apparently can't stay healthy for more than about a third of the season).

If winning were a priority, Baalke never would have been hired, and he CERTAINLY wouldn't have been retained instead of Harbaugh (at this level, GM's are a dime a dozen. Winning HC's are not). If winning were a priority, legitimate HC searches would have been conducted instead of giving the team to first Singletary, and then Tomsula. If winning were a priority, Jed has had YEARS to recognize that he's incapable of doing his job and hired somebody to run the football operations who knew what the hell he was doing. If winning were a priority, we wouldn't be watching the QB competition equivalent of Dumb and Dumber (that's not a commentary on actual intelligence, just so there's no misunderstanding, but a metaphor for how they play). If winning were a priority I don't believe we'd be witnessing the exodus of players and coaches over the last two years that we've seen, and I don't believe we'd be replacing them with literally the only option who would say yes.


I'm sorry if that reads somewhat harsh, as that's not my intent, but I vehemently disagree that Jed a) cares about winning, and b) is just incompetent. He undoubtedly is incompetent (worst owner in professional sports in my opinion, and arguably the worst owner in professional sports of all time; yes, I know he's not THE owner, but he's the face of ownership, and the only reason he has his job is because of nepotism), but I don't think "caring about winning" is mutually exclusive from "being incompetent." I think if mommy wasn't his boss he would have gotten fired LONG before Harbaugh was allowed to walk out the door.

Damn! How do you really feel? lol....Look I hear ya. You never pick a GM over the coach. That was a HUGE mistake. And replacing him with Tomsula was even worse. Without apologizing for Jed, I think all owners of course want to win. Some just don't know how, and Jed is one of them. He usually promotes from within he organization because he is not well connected around the league. Singletary, Tomsula, and Baalke are examples of that. And coming soon, Tom Gamble, after Jed fires Baalke which he no doubt will have no choice but to do it.

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Pattersonca65 wrote:

thesack12 wrote:Interesting to hear, and anything that puts pressure on Jed is good. However, I don't think we can realistically hope for Jed to go anywhere.

Baalke on the other hand, absolutely has to go.

I know. We are still suck with York but it has to be embarrassing for Jed. He sure made a point of how he goes to his uncle for advice. Hopefully this puts the media spotlight on him. This will definitely turn up the heat and hopefully get them to make some changes. Baalke for starters. I would get Marathe the hell out of there too.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought Paraag was just the money/contracts guy, and on that end, I think he's done an excellent job.

But since you think he should go, is there anything in particular that I'm missing, or do you simply want to clean house?

Marathe was team president and Jed's right hand man. He had his hands into everything. He was involved in the coaching hires. He is involved in the analytics dept that uses analytics to evaluate players. He was also involved in the instant replay reviews. He was identified as potentially one of the FO leakers. He is a business school grad and finance person who thinks he knows something about football. Supposedly he was demoted and now just focuses on contracts and his analytics dept. I see him as part of this team's problems and would be one of the first people out the door. You can always find someone to crunch numbers.

The thing is, even if they get rid of Baalke, Jed will go for another yes man while keeping flunkies like Marathe close.

Remember, they patted themselves on the back for Harbaugh's success, thought their analytics and Baalke's ACL picks just loaded up the roster that any coach could win with it.

They didn't like it when the fans and the media saw Harbaugh as the difference maker.

wco81 wrote:The thing is, even if they get rid of Baalke, Jed will go for another yes man while keeping flunkies like Marathe close.

Remember, they patted themselves on the back for Harbaugh's success, thought their analytics and Baalke's ACL picks just loaded up the roster that any coach could win with it.

They didn't like it when the fans and the media saw Harbaugh as the difference maker.

At the same time Jed realizes that he is losing money with a crappy product. The empty seats at Levis being a very glaring example.

wco81 wrote:The thing is, even if they get rid of Baalke, Jed will go for another yes man while keeping flunkies like Marathe close.

Remember, they patted themselves on the back for Harbaugh's success, thought their analytics and Baalke's ACL picks just loaded up the roster that any coach could win with it.

They didn't like it when the fans and the media saw Harbaugh as the difference maker.

And this is the real problem with Jed being in charge. It's not that the fans SAW Harbaugh as the difference maker, which Jed takes offense to, it's that Harbaugh WAS the difference maker, which Jed is CLEARLY still in denial about.

49er4life1979 wrote:

wco81 wrote:The thing is, even if they get rid of Baalke, Jed will go for another yes man while keeping flunkies like Marathe close.

Remember, they patted themselves on the back for Harbaugh's success, thought their analytics and Baalke's ACL picks just loaded up the roster that any coach could win with it.

They didn't like it when the fans and the media saw Harbaugh as the difference maker.

At the same time Jed realizes that he is losing money with a crappy product. The empty seats at Levis being a very glaring example.

But those tickets are already sold. He's not losing money on anything but concessions. When the frustrated 9ers fans sell their tickets to opposing teams' fans, Jed wins with a full house of people rooting for the Cowboys and Seahawks. How embarrassing is that as a 9ers fan?

wartyOne wrote:

49er4life1979 wrote:

wco81 wrote:The thing is, even if they get rid of Baalke, Jed will go for another yes man while keeping flunkies like Marathe close.

Remember, they patted themselves on the back for Harbaugh's success, thought their analytics and Baalke's ACL picks just loaded up the roster that any coach could win with it.

They didn't like it when the fans and the media saw Harbaugh as the difference maker.

At the same time Jed realizes that he is losing money with a crappy product. The empty seats at Levis being a very glaring example.

But those tickets are already sold. He's not losing money on anything but concessions. When the frustrated 9ers fans sell their tickets to opposing teams' fans, Jed wins with a full house of people rooting for the Cowboys and Seahawks. How embarrassing is that as a 9ers fan?

Pathetic. Even York has to be embarrassed by that, and especially now with his cousin Lisa taking to twitter lol. Jed would love to win no doubt and prove everyone wrong, but he has no clue how to win. Big difference between wanting something and knowing how to get it.

49er4life1979 wrote:

wartyOne wrote:

49er4life1979 wrote:
At the same time Jed realizes that he is losing money with a crappy product. The empty seats at Levis being a very glaring example.

But those tickets are already sold. He's not losing money on anything but concessions. When the frustrated 9ers fans sell their tickets to opposing teams' fans, Jed wins with a full house of people rooting for the Cowboys and Seahawks. How embarrassing is that as a 9ers fan?

Pathetic. Even York has to be embarrassed by that, and especially now with his cousin Lisa taking to twitter lol. Jed would love to win no doubt and prove everyone wrong, but he has no clue how to win. Big difference between wanting something and knowing how to get it.

I have my doubts. I think the only thing that gives him pause would be PSL owners defaulting and Santa Clara telling the 9ers to pound sand. Those two things happening simultaneously aren't terribly likely. I honestly believe that if the stadium is full of the opposing team's fans, he views that as a successful business venture. Nothing in his history in that position demonstrates otherwise. Priority one: Are we making money? If the answer to that is yes, nothing else matters. If the answer to that is no, then the emphasis becomes, "How can we make money?" Nothing in the York's MO suggests they care about winning.