ChrisPozz wrote:Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:ChrisPozz wrote:He wasn't/isn't for my tastes but a lot of people in the scouting community had secret crushes on him, many/most of which were afraid to admit how much THEY liked him as a pure passer, his delivery, and coach-ability.
For me he did the, "I know where I'm going with the ball on this play and nothing is going to change my mind" thing too much. Very Cutler-ish there without the raw ability to make it happen as much as Cutler has in his career. And many might know of my dislike for Cutler's tendency to do crap like that...and more.
I didn't love the variance in his throwing either. A lot of his stuff was within 10 yards and the stuff in the intermediate and downfield areas wasn't great or overly productive IMO.
I didn't think he had great feet either. Choppy, wasted steps. Just an OK but not a great mover/runner combo thrower and didn't have a lot of scrambling ability.
Had struggles with timing routes so I didn't think he was a great fit for a lot of offenses that put an over emphasis on perfect timing. I didn't think he saw things that well coming into the NFL. He threw a ton his last year but he needed a ton more reps just seeing different coverages and handling pressure. Many of his interceptions were because he didn't see guys over the top very well throwing downfield.
A big reason for a lot of the love is because there's some God-given, raw ability there that a lot of coaches would want to work with but I didn't love a lot of the other stuff, and when you combine it with the system he likely needs to be in with all the short stuff, he's just not a good fit with what I like in an offense or the types of coaches I would tend to want to have around.
Again. I would have rather had Dobbs than him even though Dobbs was a huge project to me. He just was somebody that's a better fit for a guy like me with what I tend to favor in coaching. I would have rather closed my eyes and prayed to God and worked with Chad Kelly than him.
I said I could see him and Peterman having similar careers for different reasons.
I didn't love/like this class except for the two (Trubisky/Kizer) at the top. Kizer admittedly needing time and the right kind of developing. Will admit that some of the immaturity with him that's just barely crept in has really, really surprised me about him. Nothing else at this point with him has really surprised me. He needs time and the right coddling, which he may not get there given that entire situation. I still don't think Hue is the main or a huge problem either.
Thanks for the detailed write up Pozz. Good stuff. Very interesting evaluation on him.