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Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#2 » by I_am_1z » Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:57 pm

Okay if Shanny doesn't win this game I'm sure we'll all be fine with that BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#3 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:59 pm

Kinda hoping we don't win but at the same time, I(the team and fanbase) need to see a win with our club before its too late lol....

**hoping we dont win vs the NYG due to them getting 2 wins more than us AND they beat us in tie breaker if that comes into play**
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#4 » by Ray_Dogg » Tue Nov 7, 2017 4:01 pm

I_am_1z wrote:Okay if Shanny doesn't win this game I'm sure we'll all be fine with that BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.



That take is so HAWT.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#6 » by I_am_1z » Wed Nov 8, 2017 8:13 am

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I_am_1z wrote:Okay if Shanny doesn't win this game I'm sure we'll all be fine with that BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.



That take is so HAWT.


Didn't take the broncos long to realize Josh Mcdaniels wasn't the guy. I'm getting a similar vibe from Shanny. If this were any other HC, *cough cough* Chip, Jim Tom, he'd be gone by the end of the season. How he's not even on a warm seat is concerning.

http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/08/23/why-was-josh-mcdaniels-not-a-good-head-coach-with-denver-broncos/
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

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I_am_1z wrote:
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I_am_1z wrote:Okay if Shanny doesn't win this game I'm sure we'll all be fine with that BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.



That take is so HAWT.


Didn't take the broncos long to realize Josh Mcdaniels wasn't the guy. I'm getting a similar vibe from Shanny. If this were any other HC, *cough cough* Chip, Jim Tom, he'd be gone by the end of the season. How he's not even on a warm seat is concerning.

http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/08/23/why-was-josh-mcdaniels-not-a-good-head-coach-with-denver-broncos/


They went scorched earth on the roster after they signed 6 year contracts. The knew they could take this approach and had the backing of Jed to do it this way. They don't care about winning a handful of meaningless games right now they are rebuilding the roster and the TANK is clearly on the battlefield. If you want to make a judgement on the HC right now that is on you. The fact we aren't getting completely blown out every game with one of if not the worst rosters in the league is telling. I had realistic expectations on what was going to happen this year.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

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I_am_1z wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:Okay if Shanny doesn't win this game I'm sure we'll all be fine with that BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.



That take is so HAWT.


Didn't take the broncos long to realize Josh Mcdaniels wasn't the guy. I'm getting a similar vibe from Shanny. If this were any other HC, *cough cough* Chip, Jim Tom, he'd be gone by the end of the season. How he's not even on a warm seat is concerning.

http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/08/23/why-was-josh-mcdaniels-not-a-good-head-coach-with-denver-broncos/


You've been saying this since week 2. Don't act like you ever had any intention of giving him a chance.

Not only are we a rebuilding team that blew up its roster and is starting almost entirely from scratch (unlike the other coaches you mentioned) we have more people on IR than any team in the league, so we started with scraps, and the scraps fell apart, and you're here wondering why the scraps aren't doing much. We are basically the equivalent of an expansion team. We also have a front office with one of the worst reputations in the NFL, almost no one wants to play for us, but the players we do have specifically mentions shanny as a reason they came.

How would the reputation of our team improve by firing yet another coach after one year? What coach is going to want to come here with that lack of job security? What players are going to want to come to a team where they have to learn a new system every year?

We gave him permission to rebuild from scratch, then punish him for not finding every piece in one off season?
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#9 » by I_am_1z » Wed Nov 8, 2017 9:55 pm

It's telling...

You guys have such confidence in your coach Shanny, that you're already defending a loss that hasn't happened yet against a team even our scrubby team is favored over according to Vegas.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#10 » by Jikkle » Wed Nov 8, 2017 11:34 pm

I wanted McDaniels over Shanahan but I can't really accurately judge Shanahan after this season. The roster was gutted and overhauled and to make matters worse it's been battered with injuries so it looks like a roster you would see in the 4th game of the preseason.

With Tomsula he had no business being a head coach in the first place. He's a top-notch defensive line coach but he didn't have the connections or clout to put together a quality coaching staff which if you ask Mike Singletary will quickly doom you as a head coach. If you have a defensive background and you're struggling to put together a defensive staff that's a serious red flag. He won 5 games but if you look closely only one of those wins was what you would call a quality win. The other 4 were won by less than a TD and needed the other team to screw it up more than the 9ers going out to grab the win.

Chip unfortunately got stuck as a lame duck as soon as he was hired because York screwed up by not firing Baalke and doing what he did this past offseason than. So you had a shotgun wedding between two guys that were just desperately clinging to jobs. Ultimately I just don't think Chip would've worked out though as he just could never seemingly fully adjust his style to the NFL. For Chip he really should've taken a year off and really gave what he learned with the Eagles a hard look and waited for a more solid opportunity to present itself.

Now going back to Shanahan he gets his mulligan this season but the team better show some life next season. Realistically won't be a playoff team still in 2018 but there should be some wins and the team should look like it's trending in the right direction.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#11 » by Bald Bull » Wed Nov 8, 2017 11:47 pm

I_am_1z wrote:It's telling...

You guys have such confidence in your coach Shanny, that you're already defending a loss that hasn't happened yet against a team even our scrubby team is favored over according to Vegas.


weird, i didn't notice anyone make a prediction about this weeks game or any excuses about the future.

You seem like you're in denial about the fact that this team is rebuilding.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#12 » by I_am_1z » Wed Nov 8, 2017 11:53 pm

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I_am_1z wrote:It's telling...

You guys have such confidence in your coach Shanny, that you're already defending a loss that hasn't happened yet against a team even our scrubby team is favored over according to Vegas.


weird, i didn't notice anyone make a prediction about this weeks game or any excuses about the future.


This was all triggered by me saying "If Shanahan doesn't win this game..."

Why did that cause you to post a response in his defense?
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#13 » by Bald Bull » Thu Nov 9, 2017 1:28 am

I_am_1z wrote:
Bald Bull wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:It's telling...

You guys have such confidence in your coach Shanny, that you're already defending a loss that hasn't happened yet against a team even our scrubby team is favored over according to Vegas.


weird, i didn't notice anyone make a prediction about this weeks game or any excuses about the future.


This was all triggered by me saying "If Shanahan doesn't win this game..."

Why did that cause you to post a response in his defense?


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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#14 » by Ray_Dogg » Thu Nov 9, 2017 1:29 am

BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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Post#15 » by Ray_Dogg » Thu Nov 9, 2017 1:31 am

And to think this loss would be the time to make that judgement is comical. It’s a HAWT take.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#16 » by ChrisPozz » Thu Nov 9, 2017 3:11 am

Ray_Dogg wrote:BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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And you are already thinking he’s not HC material based off a loss that hasn’t occurred.


Being out in front of the majority or to get an opinion out there faster than the majority is also a motivating factor with many people these days, too. Nobody specific. Just many, many, people now tend to go this route the moment they begin to have a feeling about something. Many people.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#17 » by I_am_1z » Thu Nov 9, 2017 6:16 am

Ray_Dogg wrote:BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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And you are already thinking he’s not HC material based off a loss that hasn’t occurred.


This would have been a good first response. I just see hypocrisy and majority biases all over this board. Someone please tell me how Shanahan has been thus far as a coach? For some inexplicable reason he's taken 0 flak for having an 0-9 team. Offensive genius has the worst time of possession per drive in the NFL right now—just as Chip Kelly did. The alarming difference being is that when Kelly did finally get into the RZ, he was one of the best play callers in the league—Shanahan is also near the bottom in RZ scoring. There's really nothing admirable that he can hang his hat on. I'm glad people are happy Hyde is doing well in fantasy football, but the feeling is he's likely gone in 2018, so I'm not sure how that helps us as far as rebuilding goes.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#18 » by I_am_1z » Thu Nov 9, 2017 6:19 pm

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Ray_Dogg wrote:BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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And you are already thinking he’s not HC material based off a loss that hasn’t occurred.


Being out in front of the majority or to get an opinion out there faster than the majority is also a motivating factor with many people these days, too. Nobody specific. Just many, many, people now tend to go this route the moment they begin to have a feeling about something. Many people.


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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#19 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Nov 9, 2017 7:13 pm

I_am_1z wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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And you are already thinking he’s not HC material based off a loss that hasn’t occurred.


This would have been a good first response. I just see hypocrisy and majority biases all over this board. Someone please tell me how Shanahan has been thus far as a coach? For some inexplicable reason he's taken 0 flak for having an 0-9 team. Offensive genius has the worst time of possession per drive in the NFL right now—just as Chip Kelly did. The alarming difference being is that when Kelly did finally get into the RZ, he was one of the best play callers in the league—Shanahan is also near the bottom in RZ scoring. There's really nothing admirable that he can hang his hat on. I'm glad people are happy Hyde is doing well in fantasy football, but the feeling is he's likely gone in 2018, so I'm not sure how that helps us as far as rebuilding goes.


Because it has been pointed you so many times by multiple people that the situation now is completely different with the roster than it was. We are rebuilding from years of Baalke ineptitude. Jim Tomsula was in way over his head as head coach.
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Re: Week 10: Giants(1-7) @ 49ers(0-9) 

Post#20 » by ChrisPozz » Thu Nov 9, 2017 8:30 pm

I_am_1z wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:BUT it probably also means he's not suited to be a head coach in the NFL.
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And you are already thinking he’s not HC material based off a loss that hasn’t occurred.


Being out in front of the majority or to get an opinion out there faster than the majority is also a motivating factor with many people these days, too. Nobody specific. Just many, many, people now tend to go this route the moment they begin to have a feeling about something. Many people.


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Better be good at explaining oneself along the way/process then. Fortunately for Riddick, he is. Many others, not so much. Fans specifically.

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