NFL COMBINE 2018

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #281 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 7:02 pm

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ChrisPozz · Post #282 » by **ChrisPozz** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 7:16 pm

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ChrisPozz · Post #284 » by **ChrisPozz** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:40 pm

CB Arm Length - Longest to shortest (w/ bench reps)

Chris Campbell - 33 1/2 (14)
Isaiah Oliver - 33 1/2 (DNP)

JaMarcus King - 32 7/8 (DNP)

Carlton Davis - 32 3/4 (16)
Chris Jones - 32 3/4 (14)
Levi Wallace - 32 3/4 (DNP)

Brandon Facyson - 32 5/8 (16)

Tarvarus McFadden - 32 1/2 (DNP)

Chandon Sullivan - 32 3/8 (15)
D'Montre Wade - 32 3/8 (15)

Isaac Yiadom - 32 1/4 (8)

Holton Hill - 32 (14)
Jordan Thomas - 32 (4)

Quenton Meeks - 31 3/4 (11)

D.J. Reed - 31 5/8 (11)

Tony Brown - 31 1/2 (14)
Duke Dawson - 31 1/2 (15)
J.C. Jackson - 31 1/2 (14)
Darius Phillips - 31 1/2 (DNP)

Andre Chachere - 31 3/8 (13)
Kamrin Moore - 31 3/8 (DNP)

M.J. Stewart - 31 1/4 (18)
Denzel Ward - 31 1/4 (16)

Jaire Alexander - 31 1/8 (14)
Davontae Harris - 31 1/8 (22)
Josh Jackson - 31 1/8 (18)
Danny Johnson - 31 1/8 (15)

Mike Hughes - 30 7/8 (20)
Taron Johnson - 30 7/8 (17)
Henre' Toliver - 30 7/8 (6)

Rashaan Gaulden - 30 3/4 (8)
Nick Nelson - 30 3/4 (17)

Dee Delaney - 30 1/2 (13)

Anthony Averett - 30 1/4 (13)
Michael Joseph - 30 1/4 (17)
Parry Nickerson - 30 1/4 (15)

Kevin Toliver - 30 1/8 (10)

Rashard Fant - 30 (DNP)

Greg Stroman - 29 7/8 (16)

Grant Haley - 29 3/4 (15)

Donte Jackson - 29 1/2 (7)
Avonte Maddox - 29 1/2 (13)

ChrisPozz · Post #285 » by **ChrisPozz** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 9:40 pm

NFL Network "Official" CB 40 times

Donte Jackson - 4.32 (T-8th best since 2006 among all DBs)
Parry Nickerson - 4.32 - (Pulled up w/injury after finish on 1st 40)(T-8th best since 2006 among all DBs)
Denzel Ward - 4.32 (T-8th best since 2006 among all DBs)
Tony Brown - 4.35 (0.02 shy of T-15)
Anthony Averett - 4.36 (0.03 shy of T-15)
Jaire Alexander - 4.38 (0.05 shy of T-15)
Avonte Maddox - 4.39
Davontae Harris - 4.43
Grant Haley - 4.44
Danny Johnson - 4.44
Duke Dawson - 4.46
Dee Delaney - 4.46
J.C. Jackson - 4.46
Greg Stroman - 4.48
Andre Chachere - 4.49
Holton Hill - 4.49
Taron Johnson - 4.50
Isaiah Oliver - 4.50
D.J. Reed - 4.51
Nick Nelson - 4.52
Isaac Yiadom - 4.52
Carlton Davis - 4.53
Brandon Facyson - 4.53
Mike Hughes - 4.53
Darius Phillips - 4.54
M.J. Stewart - 4.54
Josh Jackson - 4.56
Chris Jones - 4.57
D'Montre Wade - 4.57
Chandon Sullivan - 4.60
Rashaan Gaulden - 4.61
Henre' Toliver - 4.63
Levi Wallace - 4.63 (big disparity between 2 times)
Jordan Thomas - 4.64
Tarvarus McFadden - 4.67
JaMarcus King - 4.70 - (DNR 2nd time - injury)

Chris Campbell - DNR
Rashard Fant - DNR
Michael Joseph - DNR
Quenton Meeks - DNR
Kamrin Moore - DNR
Kevin Toliver - DNR

I_am_1z · Post #286 » by **I_am_1z** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 1:16 am

PSU is killing it. It's too bad Christian Campbell didn't get to display his athleticism because it's on the same tier as Gesecki and Barkley.

ChrisPozz · Post #287 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 1:35 am

CB Vertical Jump

Chandon Sullivan - 40 1/2

Quenton Meeks - 39
Denzel Ward - 39

Tarvarus McFadden - 38 1/2

Andre Chachere - 38
Josh Jackson - 38
Jordan Thomas - 38

Avonte Maddox - 37

D.J. Reed - 36 1/2

Mike Hughes - 35 1/2
J.C. Jackson - 35 1/2
D'Montre Wade - 35 1/2

M.J. Stewart - 35
Jaire Alexander - 35
Danny Johnson - 35

Carlton Davis - 34
Grant Haley - 34
Michael Joseph - 34

Greg Stroman - 33 1/2

Taron Johnson - 33
Kevin Toliver - 33
Levi Wallace - 33

Dee Delaney - 32 1/2
Davontae Harris - 32 1/2
Henre' Toliver - 32 1/2

Anthony Averett - 31 1/2
Tony Brown - 31 1/2

Holton Hill - 31

Rashaan Gaulden - 30

Chris Campbell - DNP
Duke Dawson - DNP
Brandon Facyson - DNR
Rashard Fant - DNR
Donte Jackson - DNP
Chris Jones - DNP
JaMarcus King - DNP
Kamrin Moore - DNP
Nick Nelson - DNP
Parry Nickerson - DNP
Isaiah Oliver - DNP
Darius Phillips - DNP
Isaac Yiadom - DNP

ChrisPozz · Post #288 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 1:59 am

Ward was a long jumper in high school.

CB Broad Jump

Denzel Ward - 11 feet, 4 inches (T-3rd best among all DBs since 2006)

Chandon Sullivan - 11 feet, 2 inches (T-7th best among all DBs since 2006)

Quenton Meeks - 10 feet, 8 inches

Jaire Alexander - 10 feet, 7 inches
Mike Hughes - 10 feet, 7 inches

Tony Brown - 10 feet, 6 inches

Avonte Maddox - 10 feet, 5 inches

Carlton Davis - 10 feet, 4 inches
Donte Jackson - 10 feet, 4 inches
Jordan Thomas - 10 feet, 4 inches

Andre Chachere - 10 feet, 3 inches
Davontae Harris - 10 feet, 3 inches
Josh Jackson - 10 feet, 3 inches
Danny Johnson - 10 feet, 3 inches
Nick Nelson - 10 feet, 3 inches

Tarvarus McFadden - 10 feet, 1 inch

Dee Delaney - 10 feet even
Holton Hill - 10 feet even
J.C. Jackson - 10 feet even
Kevin Toliver - 10 feet even
D'Montre Wade - 10 feet even
Isaac Yiadom - 10 feet even

Anthony Averett - 9 feet, 11 inches
Rashaan Gaulden - 9 feet, 11 inches
Grant Haley - 9 feet, 11 inches

Taron Johnson - 9 feet, 10 inches
M.J. Stewart - 9 feet, 10 inches

Henre' Toliver - 9 feet, 9 inches

Greg Stroman - 9 feet, 5 inches

Chris Campbell - DNP
Duke Dawson - DNP
Brandon Facyson - DNP
Rashard Fant - DNP
Chris Jones - DNP
Michael Joseph - DNP
JaMarcus King - DNP
Kamrin Moore - DNP
Parry Nickerson - DNP
Isaiah Oliver - DNP
Darius Phillips - DNP
D.J. Reed - DNP
Levi Wallace - DNP

ChrisPozz · Post #289 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 2:14 am

CB 20-Yard Shuttle

Grant Haley - 3.94 (T-13th best among all DBs since 2006)
Jordan Thomas - 3.94 (T-13th best among all DBs since 2006)
Jaire Alexander - 3.98
Avonte Maddox - 4.00
Josh Jackson - 4.03
Andre Chachere - 4.07
Tony Brown - 4.11
Mike Hughes - 4.13
Holton Hill - 4.15
Henre' Toliver - 4.15
Isaac Yiadom - 4.18
Michael Joseph - 4.20
Quenton Meeks - 4.23
Dee Delaney - 4.25
Taron Johnson - 4.28
M.J. Stewart - 4.28
Rashaan Gaulden - 4.33
Chandon Sullivan - 4.36
Anthony Averett - 4.40
Davontae Harris - 4.40
D'Montre Wade - 4.40
Greg Stroman - 4.45

Chris Campbell - DNR
Carlton Davis - DNR
Duke Dawson - DNR
Brandon Facyson - DNR
Rashard Fant - DNR
Donte Jackson - DNR
J.C. Jackson - DNR
Danny Johnson - DNR
Chris Jones - DNR
JaMarcus King - DNR
Tarvarus McFadden - DNR
Kamrin Moore - DNR
Nick Nelson - DNR
Parry Nickerson - DNR
Isaiah Oliver - DNR
Darius Phillips - DNR
D.J. Reed - DNR
Kevin Toliver - DNR
Levi Wallace - DNR
Denzel Ward - DNR

ChrisPozz · Post #290 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 2:27 am

CB 60-Yard Shuttle

Avonte Maddox - 10.72 (Best among all DBs since 2006)
Jordan Thomas - 10.85 (7th best among all DBs since 2006)
Tony Brown - 11.14
M.J. Stewart - 11.19
Henre' Toliver - 11.39
Andre Chachere - 11.43
Michael Joseph - 11.98

Jaire Alexander - DNR
Anthony Averett - DNR
Chris Campbell - DNR
Carlton Davis - DNR
Duke Dawson - DNR
Dee Delaney - DNR
Brandon Facyson - DNR
Rashard Fant - DNR
Rashaan Gaulden - DNR
Grant Haley - DNR
Davontae Harris - DNR
Holton Hill - DNR
Mike Hughes - DNR
Donte Jackson - DNR
J.C. Jackson - DNR
Josh Jackson - DNR
Danny Johnson - DNR
Taron Johnson - DNR
Chris Jones - DNR
JaMarcus King - DNR
Tarvarus McFadden - DNR
Quenton Meeks - DNR
Kamrin Moore - DNR
Nick Nelson - DNR
Parry Nickerson - DNR
Isaiah Oliver - DNR
Darius Phillips - DNR
D.J. Reed - DNR
Greg Stroman - DNR
Chandon Sullivan - DNR
Kevin Toliver - DNR
D'Montre Wade - DNR
Levi Wallace - DNR
Denzel Ward - DNR
Isaac Yiadom - DNR

ChrisPozz · Post #291 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 2:44 am

CB 3-Cone Drill

Jordan Thomas - 6.28 (Best among all DBs since 2006 - by 0.16 seconds)
Grant Haley - 6.51 (T-6th best among all DBs since 2006)
Avonte Maddox - 6.51 (T-6th best among all DBs since 2006)
Mike Hughes - 6.70
Jaire Alexander - 6.71
Quenton Meeks - 6.72
Tony Brown - 6.78
Andre Chachere - 6.78
Holton Hill - 6.83
Josh Jackson - 6.86
Michael Joseph - 6.89
M.J. Stewart - 6.90
Anthony Averett - 6.93
Dee Delaney - 6.95
Davontae Harris - 6.96
Henre' Toliver - 7.01
Taron Johnson - 7.03
Rashaan Gaulden - 7.16

Chris Campbell - DNR
Carlton Davis - DNR
Duke Dawson - DNR
Brandon Facyson - DNR
Rashard Fant - DNR
Donte Jackson - DNR
J.C. Jackson - DNR
Danny Johnson - DNR
Chris Jones - DNR
JaMarcus King - DNR
Tarvarus McFadden - DNR
Kamrin Moore - DNR
Nick Nelson - DNR
Parry Nickerson - DNR
Isaiah Oliver - DNR
Darius Phillips - DNR
D.J. Reed - DNR
Greg Stroman - DNR
Chandon Sullivan - DNR
Kevin Toliver - DNR
D'Montre Wade - DNR
Levi Wallace - DNR
Denzel Ward - DNR
Isaac Yiadom - DNR

ChrisPozz · Post #292 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:14 am

Man, Jordan Thomas has become a really hard evaluation IMO.

Played his best football 2 years ago. Speed and quickness hasn't been the same after multiple injuries (knee, ankle). 17 PDs last year, 2 this year. Picked 5 passes off in '15 and 1 this year. His yards per reception in coverage was terrible this year. Gave up multiple bombs and was a penalty machine. But there's flashes of talent there with some decent movement skills and some ball skills. Is he more than just an average tackler? I don't know.

In '15 he was suspended twice and arrested for failing to show in court over a parking violation. Then before the '16 season he was arrested again for his role in a bar fight and fleeing the scene. Some have suggested there might be some mental health issues there that you might want to try and help with if it's a thing or if it's more really, really bad decision making and something he'll get out of if the right people are around him.

Now, he somewhat expectedly/unexpectedly shows up to the combine and runs...

4.64 (40) - 7th percentile since '11.
His vertical and broad jumps are in the 70th percentile RANGE

Then you get to his shuttle which is 99th percentile, a 60-yard shuttle that puts him in the 95th percentile, and a 3-cone in the 99th percentile.

And for good measure, and this one isn't surprising, his bench puts him in the 1 percentile. (4 reps)

ChrisPozz · Post #293 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:21 am

Safeties Arm Length - Longest to shortest (w/ bench reps)

Tre Flowers - 33 7/8 (18)

Armani Watts - 33 1/2 (13)

Ronnie Harrison - 33 3/8 (DNP)

Derwin James - 33 (21)

Terrell Edmunds - 32 3/4 (DNP)
Joshua Kalu - 32 3/4 (17)

Natrell Jamerson - 32 5/8 (25 - T-11th best among all DBs since 2006)

Troy Apke - 32 3/8 (16)

DeShon Elliott - 32 1/4 (15)

Marcell Harris - 32 (16)

Quin Blanding - 31 3/4 (DNP)
Kameron Kelly - 31 3/4 (9)

Jessie Bates - 31 5/8 (DNP)
Justin Reid - 31 5/8 (16)
Stephen Roberts - 31 5/8 (DNP)
Kyzir White - 31 5/8 (21)

Dominick Sanders - 31 3/8 (14)

Minkah Fitzpatrick - 31 1/4 (14)
Godwin Igwebuike - 31 1/4 (19)
Jordan Whitehead - 31 1/4 (21)

Siran Neal - 31 1/8 (17)

Dane Cruikshank - 31 (25 - T-11th best among all DBs since 2006)
Damon Webb - 31 (17)

Sean Chandler - 30 3/4 (16)

Marcus Allen - 30 5/8 (15)
Van Smith - 30 5/8 (DNP)

Trey Walker - 30 1/8 (14)

Max Redfield - 30 (15)

ChrisPozz · Post #294 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:30 am

NFL Network "Official" Safeties 40 times

Troy Apke - 4.34 (0.01 shy of T-15 since 2006)
Natrell Jamerson - 4.40
Justin Reid - 4.40
Dane Cruikshank - 4.41
Godwin Igwebuike - 4.44
Tre Flowers - 4.45
Minkah Fitzpatrick - 4.46
Terrell Edmunds - 4.47 (Pulled up following the finish to his 2nd 40)
Derwin James - 4.47
Jessie Bates - 4.50
Trey Walker - 4.51
Stephen Roberts - 4.53
Siran Neal - 4.56
DeShon Elliott - 4.58
Joshua Kalu - 4.58
Van Smith - 4.61
Damon Webb - 4.62
Quin Blanding - 4.63
Sean Chandler - 4.65
Kameron Kelly - 4.66
Max Redfield - 4.69

Marcus Allen - DNR
Marcell Harris - DNR
Ronnie Harrison - DNR
Dominick Sanders - DNR
Armani Watts - DNR
Kyzir White - DNR
Jordan Whitehead - DNR

ChrisPozz · Post #295 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:43 am

Safeties Vertical Jump

Terrell Edmunds - 41 1/2 (T-8th best among all DBs since 2006)
Joshua Kalu - 41 1/2 (T-8th best among all DBs since 2006)

Troy Apke - 41 (1/2 inch shy of T-15)

Siran Neal - 40 1/2

Derwin James - 40

Dane Cruikshank - 38 1/2

Marcus Allen - 37

Justin Reid - 36 1/2

DeShon Elliott - 36

Jessie Bates - 35 1/2
Godwin Igwebuike - 35 1/2
Natrell Jamerson - 35 1/2
Kyzir White - 35 1/2

Armani Watts - 35

Sean Chandler - 34 1/2
Tre Flowers - 34 1/2

Ronnie Harrison - 34
Stephen Roberts - 34

Minkah Fitzpatrick - 33
Kameron Kelly - 33
Trey Walker - 33

Quin Blanding - 31 1/2

Van Smith - 29 1/2

Marcell Harris - DNP
Max Redfield - DNP
Dominick Sanders - DNP
Damon Webb - DNP
Jordan Whitehead - DNP

ChrisPozz · Post #296 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:54 am

Safeties Broad Jump

Terrell Edmunds - 11 feet, 2 inches (T-7th best among all DBs since 2006)
Joshua Kalu - 11 feet, 2 inches (T-7th best among all DBs since 2006)

Derwin James - 11 feet even (1 inch shy of T-15)

Troy Apke - 10 feet, 11 inches

Godwin Igwebuike - 10 feet, 8 inches
Justin Reid - 10 feet, 8 inches

Marcus Allen - 10 feet, 7 inches

Quin Blanding - 10 feet, 2 inches
Tre Flowers - 10 feet, 2 inches
Siran Neal - 10 feet, 2 inches

Dane Cruikshank - 10 feet, 1 inch
DeShon Elliott - 10 feet, 1 inch
Minkah Fitzpatrick - 10 feet, 1 inch
Stephen Roberts - 10 feet, 1 inch

Ronnie Harrison - 10 feet even
Natrell Jamerson - 10 feet even
Kameron Kelly - 10 feet even
Armani Watts - 10 feet even

Sean Chandler - 9 feet, 11 inches
Trey Walker - 9 feet, 11 inches

Jessie Bates - 9 feet, 9 inches

Kyzir White - 9 feet, 5 inches

Marcell Harris - DNP
Max Redfield - DNP
Dominick Sanders - DNP
Van Smith - DNP
Damon Webb - DNP
Jordan Whitehead - DNP

ChrisPozz · Post #297 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 3:59 am

Safeties 20-Yard Shuttle

Troy Apke - 4.03
Godwin Igwebuike - 4.12
Justin Reid - 4.15
Dane Cruikshank - 4.24
Jessie Bates - 4.26
Kameron Kelly - 4.28
Siran Neal - 4.28
Trey Walker - 4.28
Marcus Allen - 4.32
Armani Watts - 4.37
Sean Chandler - 4.62

Quin Blanding - DNR
Terrell Edmunds - DNR
DeShon Elliott - DNR
Minkah Fitzpatrick - DNR
Tre Flowers - DNR
Marcell Harris - DNR
Ronnie Harrison - DNR
Natrell Jamerson - DNR
Derwin James - DNR
Joshua Kalu - DNR
Max Redfield - DNR
Stephen Roberts - DNR
Dominick Sanders - DNR
Van Smith - DNR
Damon Webb - DNR
Kyzir White - DNR
Jordan Whitehead - DNR

ChrisPozz · Post #298 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 4:03 am

Safeties 60-Yard Shuttle

Godwin Igwebuike - 10.81 (5th best among all DBs since 2006)
Trey Walker - 11.27
Jessie Bates - 11.34

Marcus Allen - DNR
Troy Apke - DNR
Quin Blanding - DNR
Sean Chandler - DNR
Dane Cruikshank - DNR
Terrell Edmunds - DNR
DeShon Elliott - DNR
Minkah Fitzpatrick - DNR
Tre Flowers - DNR
Marcell Harris - DNR
Ronnie Harrison - DNR
Natrell Jamerson - DNR
Derwin James - DNR
Joshua Kalu - DNR
Kameron Kelly - DNR
Siran Neal - DNR
Max Redfield - DNR
Justin Reid - DNR
Stephen Roberts - DNR
Dominick Sanders - DNR
Van Smith - DNR
Armani Watts - DNR
Damon Webb - DNR
Kyzir White - DNR
Jordan Whitehead - DNR

ChrisPozz · Post #299 » by **ChrisPozz** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 4:08 am

Safeties 3-Cone Drill

Troy Apke - 6.56 (T-11th best among all DBs since 2006)
Godwin Igwebuike - 6.56 (T-11th best among all DBs since 2006)
Justin Reid - 6.65
Jessie Bates - 6.78
Dane Cruikshank - 6.89
Kameron Kelly - 6.94
Siran Neal - 7.00
Trey Walker - 7.00
Armani Watts - 7.25

Marcus Allen - DNR
Quin Blanding - DNR
Sean Chandler - DNR
Terrell Edmunds - DNR
DeShon Elliott - DNR
Minkah Fitzpatrick - DNR
Tre Flowers - DNR
Marcell Harris - DNR
Ronnie Harrison - DNR
Natrell Jamerson - DNR
Derwin James - DNR
Joshua Kalu - DNR
Max Redfield - DNR
Stephen Roberts - DNR
Dominick Sanders - DNR
Van Smith - DNR
Damon Webb - DNR
Kyzir White - DNR
Jordan Whitehead - DNR

NinerSickness · Post #300 » by **NinerSickness** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 5:12 am

I already really liked Jaire Alexander, but after his combine performance, he should be getting first-round consideration.