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Post#21 » by NinerSickness » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:25 am

WOOHOO!!! GO LIONS!!!

Now we need the Bills & Cardinals to win some games...
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Post#22 » by I_am_1z » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:58 pm

23rd?
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Post#23 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:22 pm

I_am_1z wrote:23rd?

we'll trade back into the fist :lol:
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Post#25 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:51 pm

I'm looking over the Niners' schedule, and I think five wins is still pretty feasible. We play AZ twice, which should be wins unless Rosen is surprisingly good as a rookie. We also play Oakland and the Giants. In fact, because of how the schedule shapes up, we could go into the bye at 5-5. Though tough to see a game in which we'd be favored after that.Last year, five wins would have us picking somewhere in the 5-8 range. I'd be thinking edge or CB anywhere in the top-10.
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Post#26 » by wco81 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:22 am

Why even try to win 5 games if that's how low the ceiling is?

What would winning 4 more games do for the team other than worsen their draft position?

If they had a chance at going .500, I'd say go for it.

But it's not like they'll have a lot of choice. Too many holes on this team so they won't be able to dictate their record.
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Post#27 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:31 am

I'm not disagreeing, but the coaches and players won't see it that way. They're still going to compete, and they should.
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Post#28 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:54 pm

Best mock I’ve seen for us this far:

https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2019/
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Post#29 » by NinerSickness » Tue Oct 2, 2018 6:15 am

I wanted to root for 'Bama OLT Jonah Williams, a CA guy who's smaller, quick and great at pulling (what Niners need), but the guy just isn't living up to expectations IMO.

Not the athlete Greg Little or Trey Adams is in terms of balance, strength & smooth movements. He's just awkward out there in comparison, which isn't something you want in a smaller OL.

I think the Niners should trade Joe Staley because they need to rebuild; OL needs to be very high on the list IMO.
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Post#30 » by NinerSickness » Tue Oct 2, 2018 6:35 am

...Speaking of Trey Adams, is the guy worth the risk with his injury history? 6'8 w/ a torn ACL and back surgery??? Will miss all of 2018 apparently...

Baalke special or the next Jason Peters? I know those are 2 ends of the extreme (Peters had a major injury in college, right?).
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Post#31 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 2, 2018 5:31 pm

The 49ers need an edge rusher and cornerback #1 and #2 in this draft. Don't mind reversing that order if the talent is better at the cornerback position in the first round
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Post#33 » by Ray_Dogg » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:15 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://draftwire.usatoday.com/gallery/2019-nfl-mock-draft-updated-2-round-projections-heading-into-week-6/


Wow. They have Montgomery as a very high second rounder.
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Post#34 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:09 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://draftwire.usatoday.com/gallery/2019-nfl-mock-draft-updated-2-round-projections-heading-into-week-6/


If we take another DL in the top five - and he's not a pass-rushing DE - I will lose my ****. Especially if that pick is sandwiched between edge rushers as we see here. We've got a lot of talent at interior DL at this point. We need speed off the edge. My view is that we need to take a DE, CB, or LT with that pick. Basically any other pick and I'll be disappointed - though obviously it's early still.
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Post#35 » by NinerSickness » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:54 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://draftwire.usatoday.com/gallery/2019-nfl-mock-draft-updated-2-round-projections-heading-into-week-6/


If we take another DL in the top five - and he's not a pass-rushing DE - I will lose my ****. Especially if that pick is sandwiched between edge rushers as we see here. We've got a lot of talent at interior DL at this point. We need speed off the edge. My view is that we need to take a DE, CB, or LT with that pick. Basically any other pick and I'll be disappointed - though obviously it's early still.


Nick Bosa makes the most sense.
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Post#36 » by Jikkle » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:41 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://draftwire.usatoday.com/gallery/2019-nfl-mock-draft-updated-2-round-projections-heading-into-week-6/


In that scenario do the Cards take Bosa over Oliver when they already have Chandler Jones?

If they have both players closer on their board I would think they would go with Oliver instead of Bosa.
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Post#37 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:33 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://draftwire.usatoday.com/gallery/2019-nfl-mock-draft-updated-2-round-projections-heading-into-week-6/


If we take another DL in the top five - and he's not a pass-rushing DE - I will lose my ****. Especially if that pick is sandwiched between edge rushers as we see here. We've got a lot of talent at interior DL at this point. We need speed off the edge. My view is that we need to take a DE, CB, or LT with that pick. Basically any other pick and I'll be disappointed - though obviously it's early still.


I hear you Crims, but he’s no ordinary defensive tackle though. He could very well be the next Aaron Donald, or even better (Warren Sapp).
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Post#38 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:06 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://draftwire.usatoday.com/gallery/2019-nfl-mock-draft-updated-2-round-projections-heading-into-week-6/


If we take another DL in the top five - and he's not a pass-rushing DE - I will lose my ****. Especially if that pick is sandwiched between edge rushers as we see here. We've got a lot of talent at interior DL at this point. We need speed off the edge. My view is that we need to take a DE, CB, or LT with that pick. Basically any other pick and I'll be disappointed - though obviously it's early still.


I hear you Crims, but he’s no ordinary defensive tackle though. He could very well be the next Aaron Donald, or even better (Warren Sapp).


If there weren't very good edge rushers available, I'd be more amenable to it. But Buckner is a pro bowl caliber player, and we've got a number of options we can line up to get solid production next to him. Adding Oliver would be an admission that both Thomas and Armstead were busts. And if they are, I get that you need to move on from them, but our inability to generate any pressure off the edge has been a huge problem all season, and really well before that.
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Post#39 » by NinerSickness » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:42 am

If the Niners drafted Nick Bosa #1 overall, they would have a:

17
3
7
1

On the D-line in terms of where they were picked. For an average of 7. And they'd still probably need another starter or 2. That's sad.

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Post#40 » by CalamityX12 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:29 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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CrimsonCrew wrote:
If we take another DL in the top five - and he's not a pass-rushing DE - I will lose my ****. Especially if that pick is sandwiched between edge rushers as we see here. We've got a lot of talent at interior DL at this point. We need speed off the edge. My view is that we need to take a DE, CB, or LT with that pick. Basically any other pick and I'll be disappointed - though obviously it's early still.


I hear you Crims, but he’s no ordinary defensive tackle though. He could very well be the next Aaron Donald, or even better (Warren Sapp).


If there weren't very good edge rushers available, I'd be more amenable to it. But Buckner is a pro bowl caliber player, and we've got a number of options we can line up to get solid production next to him. Adding Oliver would be an admission that both Thomas and Armstead were busts. And if they are, I get that you need to move on from them, but our inability to generate any pressure off the edge has been a huge problem all season, and really well before that.

That admission may already been determined...…

Armstead since long ago but Thomas is basically on track for it.
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