2018-19 CFB SEASON / '19 NFL DRAFT

ChrisPozz · Post #1221 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:57 pm

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CrimsonCrew · Post #1224 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:05 pm

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NinerSickness wrote:TODAY'S THE BIG DAY!!!

...The day when a year's worth of hope usually turns to rage in a matter of seconds.

Bright side: This is the year Lynch and company add the last pile of cement needed to show a solid majority of NFL types (I do not care one iota about what 99.9% of fans think of usually) that they should not have any power over a single NFL team's draft. The majority of whatever the end pile is going to look like will have been created by moves made and not made in the first two years but this is the one that adds the final amount of solid concrete that'll end up cementing it in most NFL types' minds. Finally.

Along with that I always have to add that I always said if Shanahan was going to start rubbing NFL types and members in the 49ers the wrong way as he had in the past with some of the immaturity issues, playing favorites and not knowing how to handle it, and just the overall interacting and developing with the players that it would easily be seen by the END of his 3rd year.

To my shock and amazement, I do have to give Shanahan credit that he seems FAR MORE mature and equipped somehow than he has in some of his previous stops and there aren't NEARLY as many signs of it as I thought there would be going into year three. I would add to that that for coaches a LOT of that can surface in a bleeping hurry so he won't be out of the woods just yet BUT I do have to give him credit for just how grown up he has come off and how equipped he's been at handling some of the responsibilities off the field and with player development compared to what I thought was going to happen at this point of his head coaching career.

Unfortunately, a lot of the philosophical problems I think they've had do fall on Shanahan and the type of affect he's had on Lynch in acquisitions and so forth. So by no means have I done a complete turnaround on how I feel about Shanahan. We have major system, scheme, and philosophical differences that'll probably never change and some of that has made Lynch look worse like it sometimes does when a coach works in tandem the way Lynch and Shanahan seem to. (To be fair, I think Shanahan and his system has actually made some of his moves look even better than a lot of other coaches would have).

I don't know if this draft is going to do it, Pozz. If we don't trade back, we're going to take a guy who is as close to a sure thing as there is in this business (whether Bosa or Q). After that, to an extent, it's gravy.

I'm not as wrapped up as you are in the system, particularly the offensive system, as different systems can be effective in the NFL, and Shanahan's is one of them. There have been a number of real head-scratching moves/valuation from this staff, though. We have sunk way more money into the RB position (including a FB, of all things....), for instance, than I ever would have. And we keep throwing money at off-ball LB. I don't think that's the way to go, but at least we also decided to pay for pass rush this season (granted at the cost of a draft pick).

As much as anything, I'll be interested to see how we maneuver in this draft. I will admit that I loved the trade up for Reuben Foster, but otherwise, I've disliked the moves up that we've made. We've thrown away a lot of mid-round picks that should net solid depth, frequently moving up for players who were unlikely to go before our next pick, anyway. We burned through the draft capital that Baalke had compiled before he got canned, and now have among the fewest picks in the draft this year. And moves up for Pettis, Beathard, and Williams were just asinine. A) I expect that all of those guys would have been there when we picked, and B) if not, fine. We go in another direction. It's all the more ironic that we added Breida and Mullens as UDFA in the draft in which we traded up for Beathard and Williams. Pettis has shown real potential, but I'm not sure guys like Christian Kirk or Anthony Miller wouldn't have also been quite effective in the Niners' scheme.

CrimsonCrew · Post #1225 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:09 pm

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ChrisPozz · Post #1226 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:39 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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Did everything together instead of today, presumably?

Correct. It was on April 4th.

ChrisPozz · Post #1227 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:48 pm

How State Income Taxes and the Raiders' Move to Las Vegas Affect the NFL Draft
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ChrisPozz · Post #1228 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:50 pm

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ChrisPozz · Post #1229 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:34 pm

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NinerSickness · Post #1230 » by **NinerSickness** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:39 pm

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ChrisPozz · Post #1231 » by **ChrisPozz** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:55 pm

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shouldakepowens · Post #1232 » by **shouldakepowens** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:13 am

Here we go. You have had 4 months to get ready for this pick we will give you 10 extra minutes just in case you couldn't decide.

ChrisPozz · Post #1233 » by **ChrisPozz** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:27 am

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NinerSickness · Post #1234 » by **NinerSickness** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:54 am

Bald Bull wrote:i'm waiting for the annual sickness draft melt down

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ChrisPozz · Post #1235 » by **ChrisPozz** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm

Steve Keim, Cardinals' fate now in hands of Kyler Murray

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001028229/article/steve-keim-cardinals-fate-now-in-hands-of-kyler-murray

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #1236 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:05 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:Steve Keim, Cardinals' fate now in hands of Kyler Murray

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001028229/article/steve-keim-cardinals-fate-now-in-hands-of-kyler-murray

We've got the first overall pick, and it's obviously a big one," Keim told me Wednesday. "Because, let's face it, if we ever have the No. 1 pick again, I won't be the one making it."

He really said that!! I admire the self awareness and transparency on the matter. I don’t like the idea of playing against Murray twice a year for 10 years. Kirk and Fitz can have big receiving year next season because of this move. I still think we should have drafted Kirk last year. Oh well.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #1237 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:26 pm

BYRON MURPHY
DB, WASHINGTON HUSKIES

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated Friday morning that Washington CB Byron Murphy is the "heavy favorite" to be the Cardinals' pick at 33rd overall if the team holds onto the pick.

Murphy (5'11/190) was a player that more than a few analysts believed to be worthy of being picked in the first round, but he remains on the board heading into Day 2 of the NFL Draft. The former Washington standout could be a fit in the desert, as it has been reported in recent days that veteran CB Patrick Peterson isn't too pleased with his current situation. Whether or not this means the relationship between Peterson and the Cardinals will come to an end via trade is unknown. But selecting a cornerback early could provide a hint of sorts.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Apr 26, 2019, 2:53 PM

ChrisPozz · Post #1238 » by **ChrisPozz** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:36 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:Daniel Jeremiah was asked today to pair up quite a few of the quarterbacks in this draft with teams and when he got to Gardner Minshew he said he knows John Lynch really loves Washington State QB Gardner MInshew a lot and "kind of lit up" every time he asked him about him when they talked. (There's a video of this from the Senior Bowl, though if that's the instance I don't know if I would say Lynch "lit up" when asked. He was a bit complimentary but nothing major from what I saw so it may have been an off-camera conversation he was having with him).

I wouldn't draft Minshew. At all. I wouldn't sign him as an UDFA.

And now I just heard Trent Dilfer say he's a Gardner Minshew fan.

Interesting note: Lynch has used Dilfer before as a QB evaluation resource - both as an analyst and during his time as GM - so we'll see if it lines up and the dots end up getting connected even further but I really hope it doesn't happen. Obviously a large chunk of it will depend on the Shanahan equation but I REALLY hope they don't like him very much. It's a waste of their time IMO.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #1239 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:59 pm

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Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #1240 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:20 pm

HAKEEM BUTLER
WR, IOWA STATE CYCLONES

NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah reports the league was never as high on Iowa State WR Hakeem Butler as the internet.

Butler (6'5/227) was thought by many to be the top wideout in this draft class but still remains on the board heading into Day 3. Jeremiah is almost saying "I told you so" after ranking him 60th on his final Big Board. He believes he'll "go early today" and just "needs to be put in the right role." Butler still has plenty of upside in the NFL but his plummet in the draft is disappointing to say the least.
SOURCE: Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter

Apr 27, 2019, 11:10 AM