2021 49ers offseason

[thesack12]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/draft.htm

Link to 49ers draft history.

Current regime's first draft was 2017. Their draft crops aren't especially impressive. The first 4 rounds each year are especially troublesome.

2020:
1) Javon Kinlaw: Jury's still out but underwhelming so far
1) Brandon Aiyuk: So far Has the looks of a very effective receiver
2) no pick
3) no pick
4) no pick

2019:
1) Nick Bosa: Great player but injury prone
2) Deebo Samuel: Solid player but injury prone
3) Jalen Hurd: Has yet to play a snap, HIGHLY injury prone
4) Mitch Wishnowsky: A freaking punter in the 4th round, nuff said

2018:
1) Mike McGlinchey: Pretty disappointing player
2) Dante Pettis: Bad player, already off the team
3) Fred Warner: Great player, homerun pick
3) Tarvarius Moore: ok rotational player
4) Kentavius Street: barely clinging onto a roster spot, has made no impact

2017:
1) Solomon Thomas: massive bust
1) Reuben Foster: Colossal bust
3) Ahkello Witherspoon: incredibly frustrating player that did more bad then good, already off the team
3) CJ Beathard: LOL
4) Joe Williams: never played an NFL snap, cut after 1 season and nobody ever signed him

Agree that the Lynch/Shanahan draft record is not particularly stellar, although limiting it to just the first 4 rounds leaves out some significant factors. Getting Greenlaw at #5 looks like a big success. And landing Kittle in the 5th round makes up for a lot of mistakes.

Valid points. My post was more to shed light on the fact that the brass hasn't exactly made good use of premium draft picks during their regime. Tomorrow night they are using 4 more premium draft picks on one guy. So if they miss on that guy, their draft record is going to teeter into the massive failure territory.

[thesack12]

At least you can say that they've improved. But they continue to disregard the value of draft picks in an alarming manner. They trade up constantly, the only time I can recall them trading back was when they were targeting a punter in the fourth round. It's not the way to maintain success in the NFL, or at least it would buck the odds if they do.

In 2017, they traded back from #2 to #3 with Chicago. That didn't exactly work out swimmingly, but at least it was better than taking Thomas #2.

[CrimsonCrew]

At least you can say that they've improved. But they continue to disregard the value of draft picks in an alarming manner. They trade up constantly, the only time I can recall them trading back was when they were targeting a punter in the fourth round. It's not the way to maintain success in the NFL, or at least it would buck the odds if they do.

In 2017, they traded back from #2 to #3 with Chicago. That didn't exactly work out swimmingly, but at least it was better than taking Thomas #2.

Good point. That one slipped my mind. The only saving grace of that pick was that they got more picks before they made it. I was screaming for them to trade back again - though maybe there wasn't a market for it.

[CrimsonCrew]

Well chalk this one up in the "thank God" column: Niners re-signed Tom Compton. Calling it now: super bowl.

[thesack12]

At least you can say that they've improved. But they continue to disregard the value of draft picks in an alarming manner. They trade up constantly, the only time I can recall them trading back was when they were targeting a punter in the fourth round. It's not the way to maintain success in the NFL, or at least it would buck the odds if they do.

In 2017, they traded back from #2 to #3 with Chicago. That didn't exactly work out swimmingly, but at least it was better than taking Thomas #2.

Good point. That one slipped my mind. The only saving grace of that pick was that they got more picks before they made it. I was screaming for them to trade back again - though maybe there wasn't a market for it.

Yeah, I'm not going to give them too many props for the trade down because a couple hours later they packaged some picks to move back into the 1st round and take Reuben Foster. Which proved to be a terrible move.

So let that be a lesson for them, don't draft anymore Alabama guys

[CrimsonCrew]

Haha. Right. I actually loved the Foster pick, so I can't fault them too much for it. Though they have the resources to do a thorough background on the kid, and get to talk to him. Really missed that one.

[wco81]

Hmm, ESPN claims the 49ers called the Packers on Wednesday night about Rodgers.

Packers haven't received any trade offers though.

[Samurai]

Hmm, ESPN claims the 49ers called the Packers on Wednesday night about Rodgers.

Packers haven't received any trade offers though.

Well, there are other reports that we did make an offer (#3 pick, Jimmy, and likely something else) that the Packers immediately rejected. But Rodgers is trying to get the Packers to reconsider and take the offer. Who knows what is really happening.

[RIPskaterdude]

Read on Twitter

Sherman says a return is possible

[CrimsonCrew]

Read on Twitter

Sherman says a return is possible

What sucks is that he's signing so late that he won't count for us in the comp pick formula. Ugh.

[arich35]

Wouldn't mind Sherman for 1 more year

[thesack12]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/02/49ers-canceled-workout-with-mike-mcglinchey-to-keep-their-interest-quiet/

This proves that the 9ers have actively practiced misdirection and smokescreens in effort to mask their draft plans.

However this year, at least as far as #3 is concerned, I just don't see the benefit behind trying to orchestrate some crazy elaborate smokescreen. Short of trying to convince the Jets to take someone Lynchahan isn't interested in, it just seems like a futile exercise. Of course, there is a ton of stuff that I'm not privy'ed to or wouldn't think of anyways so what the heck do I know?

There could also always be something pulled from way out of left field as well. #3 for Aaron Rodgers being one thing I've heard sarcastically thrown around. There could also be some crazy multi-layered blueprint they have drawn up that none of us would have ever dreamed.

So again, what the heck do I know?

Underlined statement proved prophetic, lol

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That angle never crossed my brain.

[CrimsonCrew]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/02/49ers-canceled-workout-with-mike-mcglinchey-to-keep-their-interest-quiet/

This proves that the 9ers have actively practiced misdirection and smokescreens in effort to mask their draft plans.

However this year, at least as far as #3 is concerned, I just don't see the benefit behind trying to orchestrate some crazy elaborate smokescreen. Short of trying to convince the Jets to take someone Lynchahan isn't interested in, it just seems like a futile exercise. Of course, there is a ton of stuff that I'm not privy'ed to or wouldn't think of anyways so what the heck do I know?

There could also always be something pulled from way out of left field as well. #3 for Aaron Rodgers being one thing I've heard sarcastically thrown around. There could also be some crazy multi-layered blueprint they have drawn up that none of us would have ever dreamed.

So again, what the heck do I know?

Underlined statement proved prophetic, lol

Read on Twitter

That angle never crossed my brain.

I think that angle is somewhat overstated. It's already a division with mobile QBs and effective, diverse running games. And only the Cards had a pick on day one, anyway. Any advantage in keeping your opponent on uncertain footing would be minimal. Besides, these teams would have known that 2/3 QBs the Niners were seriously considering were unique running threats.

[thesack12]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/02/49ers-canceled-workout-with-mike-mcglinchey-to-keep-their-interest-quiet/

This proves that the 9ers have actively practiced misdirection and smokescreens in effort to mask their draft plans.

However this year, at least as far as #3 is concerned, I just don't see the benefit behind trying to orchestrate some crazy elaborate smokescreen. Short of trying to convince the Jets to take someone Lynchahan isn't interested in, it just seems like a futile exercise. Of course, there is a ton of stuff that I'm not privy'ed to or wouldn't think of anyways so what the heck do I know?

There could also always be something pulled from way out of left field as well. #3 for Aaron Rodgers being one thing I've heard sarcastically thrown around. There could also be some crazy multi-layered blueprint they have drawn up that none of us would have ever dreamed.

So again, what the heck do I know?

Underlined statement proved prophetic, lol

Read on Twitter

That angle never crossed my brain.

I think that angle is somewhat overstated. It's already a division with mobile QBs and effective, diverse running games. And only the Cards had a pick on day one, anyway. Any advantage in keeping your opponent on uncertain footing would be minimal. Besides, these teams would have known that 2/3 QBs the Niners were seriously considering were unique running threats.

You're right it probably didn't play a huge role in building NFC west rivals' pre draft process/draft boards/strategies, but I think there could be a little legitimacy to it.

Prior to the draft, really only the Rams and 9ers had to build/plan around facing primarily mobile QB's in the division. Seattle only had to worry about Kyler's legs and Arizona only had to worry about Russ' legs. Even with Russ, he is primarily a scrambler and not really a runner. Nobody was going to be concerned with game planning against Stafford's or Jimmy's legs. If Mac Jones was the pick, nobody would have been concerned with his mobility either.

Now with Lance in the fold, Rams will be facing 100% mobile QB's in the division, and both Zona and Seattle will be facing mobile QB's in 66% of their division games. Lance is probably the purest runner in the division. So personnel/game planning division wide are going to need to be altered moving forward.

So while it likely didn't have a huge wave of impact, if it gave the 9ers any shred of a leg up on the competition it was worth it.

[CrimsonCrew]

This is fantasy-related, but salt in the wounds for a draft in which we could (should) have come out with AJ Brown and Terry McLaurin:

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/fantasy-football-today-davante-adams-is-no-1-but-theres-little-consensus-in-wr-rankings-update/

5th and 9th, respectively. But hey, if missed games were a fantasy stat, our second and third round WRs from 2019 would be first and second.

[Scoots1994]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/02/49ers-canceled-workout-with-mike-mcglinchey-to-keep-their-interest-quiet/

This proves that the 9ers have actively practiced misdirection and smokescreens in effort to mask their draft plans.

However this year, at least as far as #3 is concerned, I just don't see the benefit behind trying to orchestrate some crazy elaborate smokescreen. Short of trying to convince the Jets to take someone Lynchahan isn't interested in, it just seems like a futile exercise. Of course, there is a ton of stuff that I'm not privy'ed to or wouldn't think of anyways so what the heck do I know?

There could also always be something pulled from way out of left field as well. #3 for Aaron Rodgers being one thing I've heard sarcastically thrown around. There could also be some crazy multi-layered blueprint they have drawn up that none of us would have ever dreamed.

So again, what the heck do I know?

Underlined statement proved prophetic, lol

Read on Twitter

That angle never crossed my brain.

I think that angle is somewhat overstated. It's already a division with mobile QBs and effective, diverse running games. And only the Cards had a pick on day one, anyway. Any advantage in keeping your opponent on uncertain footing would be minimal. Besides, these teams would have known that 2/3 QBs the Niners were seriously considering were unique running threats.

I agree. Other mobile QBs and plenty of time to adjust after the 3rd pick in the draft. Note that the NFC West has several tiny quick WRs and the 49ers didn't change to defend them.

[Scoots1994]

If IF IF IF this team is healthy they win 10+ games at a trot. There is a lot of talent all over the roster. I just don't expect health anymore.

[Scoots1994]

Thomas' one season in college came directly after he had a long bout with colitis and apparently lost weight and mass which hurt his play, but he spend the season training in AZ for the NFL and supposedly looked great.

Banks is supposedly looking to get down to 310-320 which could make a big difference in his bend and lateral quickness too.

The Seahawks and Rams have made super expensive trades in recent years (Adams, Ramsey, Stafford) sending out multiple firsts, but they have also had to pay huge contracts too. In that light the Lance deal makes more sense ... IF he works out.

[CrimsonCrew]

Maiocco's roster projection:

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-53-man-roster-projection-after-2021-nfl-draft

WR position stands out, of course:

Making the cut: Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk, Richie James, Trent Sherfield, Jalen Hurd, Travis Benjamin

On 90-man roster: Mohamed Sanu, River Cracraft, Kevin White, Jauan Jennings, Austin Proehl, Austin Watkins Jr.

Coach Kyle Shanahan downplayed the 49ers’ need at wide receiver last week. The 49ers' streak of drafting a wide receiver for 18 consecutive years came to an end. In the later rounds, Shanahan said it would have been difficult for any draft pick to make the roster because the 49ers already had six or more NFL-caliber wide receivers. Watkins, an undrafted rookie from UAB, has a chance. But it figures to be difficult for anyone to crack the top six — as long as those ticketed for roster spots remain healthy.

Maiocco is great, but he gives the FO's statements too much credence at times. Difficult for someone to crack the top six, health pending? Richie James is slated to be the third receiver, a spot that many teams view as a starter. In three years, he has 38 receptions, three TDs, and has never cracked 400 yards in a season. Of his career production, almost 24% of his receptions, almost 27% of his yards, and 33% of his TDs came in a single game. I suppose that's somewhat comforting as we know he's at least capable of taking over a game, but the following week he vanished again. And it's all downhill from there.

Trent Sherfield has 28 receptions and one TD in a three-year career. Jalen Hurd has back issues, is coming off a torn ACL, and has never played in an NFL game. And Travis Benjamin will turn 32 this season, and has combined for 18 receptions since 2018 (granted he opted out last year). There will be PLENTY of guys cut this offseason who could slide into our #3 role, to say nothing of four through six. Hopefully we pick up one or two of them.

If Hurd is able to play, we maybe have a shot at not having the thinnest receiving corps in the league, but that's only if Samuel actually stays healthy.

I am frustrated to no end by the team's failure to add a WR in the draft, but if you're going to do that, add two in UDFA. Go get Cade Johnson before the Hawks (got to think he'd be more willing to sign with the Niners given their depth and the fact that the Hawks used their first pick on a similar WR). Or get another big guy to compete with Hurd and Jennings. Doug Pederson's son is nothing more than a camp body, and a pretty poor one at that. Go get a guy with a shot of cracking the roster at WR.

[CrimsonCrew]

Thomas' one season in college came directly after he had a long bout with colitis and apparently lost weight and mass which hurt his play, but he spend the season training in AZ for the NFL and supposedly looked great.

Banks is supposedly looking to get down to 310-320 which could make a big difference in his bend and lateral quickness too.

The Seahawks and Rams have made super expensive trades in recent years (Adams, Ramsey, Stafford) sending out multiple firsts, but they have also had to pay huge contracts too. In that light the Lance deal makes more sense ... IF he works out.

For a bigger guy, Banks has good feet. But I was hoping he would shed weight and become quicker. Hopefully being in an NFL program will allow him to do it.