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Mykel
Stout
Watkins
Those guys were among the top 30 visits. Mykel is a bit of a surprise as they tend to try to disguise their interest in a player in the 1st round.
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Those guys were among the top 30 visits. Mykel is a bit of a surprise as they tend to try to disguise their interest in a player in the 1st round.
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Shocking - the Niners have added another undrafted RB, Corey Kiner to the team. I guess if it worked before, keep going back to the well until the water runs dry. Kiner is undersized (5-9, 209) and lacks breakaway speed (4.57) but runs with a relentless style and is known for his ability to bounce off initial hits and keep his balance.
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Add Drew Moss to the OL group. Mostly played RG but has some experience at RT. NFL Draft Files lists him as an underrated draft gem with a 4.58 short shuttle time that puts him in the 92nd percentile. Has PFF grades of 92.5 run block grade and 98.8 pass block efficiency. Listed at 6-4, 300 pounds but with short arms (32 inches).
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Sebastian Valdez is 6-3, 300 pound DT. Described as having big hands and impressive upper-body strength but with short arms and slow to read and react to lateral block steps.
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Niners also reportedly signing Jakob Robinson. A tiny (5-10, 165 pounds) DB who was a Jim Thorpe semifinalist with 4.39 (unofficial) speed, a 38.5 vertical and 10-5 broad jump. His weight was his playing weight; knowing that number would scare off pro scouts, he showed up to his pro day at 181 pounds and he still posted those numbers at the heavier weight.
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Can Collins or West play G?
Odds are, they didn't draft a single OLineman that will make the roster. That is just unreal. I sure would like to know what their short term vision/plan for the OL is, because they damn sure don't have a tangible long term one.
Odds are, they didn't draft a single OLineman that will make the roster. That is just unreal. I sure would like to know what their short term vision/plan for the OL is, because they damn sure don't have a tangible long term one.
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Wild, I was pretty confident they'd bring in Pole after the draft based on their connection but even that didnt happen
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Unbelievable that this isn't being reported until now. I guess this makes the selection of Sigle all the more critical.
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No true OTs signed as UDFAs so far. WTF? We have two OTs in this roster. One is 37 with injury history and the other is only okay. There a fair chance neither plays got us in 2026. What's the plan here? No TE, either.
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the hubris on Kyle but its his call and his offense so if it blows up in his face it's 100% on him, sink or swim season for him and his offense
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clyde21 wrote:the hubris on Kyle but its his call and his offense so if it blows up in his face it's 100% on him, sink or swim season for him and his offense
I just don't understand it. Even if Trent and McKivitz were sure things, there literally is not another pure OT on the roster. Is Buford the swing tackle? Why aren't you at least bringing someone in undrafted? Even if only to compete?
This is a year where we should be attacking UDFA and cleaning up. We're a good team with a documented history of turning UDFAs into players, and we have no depth. We should be such a desirable spot. Just seems like we're putting an awful lot of stock in guys who weren't good last year....
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CrimsonCrew wrote:clyde21 wrote:the hubris on Kyle but its his call and his offense so if it blows up in his face it's 100% on him, sink or swim season for him and his offense
I just don't understand it. Even if Trent and McKivitz were sure things, there literally is not another pure OT on the roster. Is Buford the swing tackle? Why aren't you at least bringing someone in undrafted? Even if only to compete?
This is a year where we should be attacking UDFA and cleaning up. We're a good team with a documented history of turning UDFAs into players, and we have no depth. We should be such a desirable spot. Just seems like we're putting an awful lot of stock in guys who weren't good last year....
from Lynch when asked about why they didnt take other OL
JL: "Yeah, we were able to do that in the seventh round with [OL] Connor Colby. But yeah, there were a number of times that we were interested in adding and it just didn't come our way. And you've got to stay true to where you have guys graded, not take guys just to take them but to take guys that you're interested in at that point. And it just never really aligned. And so, we were happy to add Colby. We think he's a really good scheme fit. Great thing about Iowa is they run a very similar, they run a lot of outside zones, so you get to see a guy like him do things that we do and he does them well. So, we're happy to add that. But there were a number of times Kyle and I were talking about that at the end that just didn't align, one of those deals and you don't want to force things. And so, it wasn't our time for that other than Connor and we'll move forward."
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KS: "Yeah, I would say so. We haven't even gone out with our players yet, but we had those guys at the end of last year and they're both tackles. Spencer's been a guard for us, but he could play swing tackle and started a lot of games for us at guard, but definitely has ability to play tackle. We got Austen at the end of last year, who closed out the season when we had some injuries. I believe it was two games at tackle, did a decent job. There are usually other options too, as the season goes or all the way up until season, there are options usually after cuts at the end of training camp. So, we'll see what our opening day roster is, but we've got a lot of competition for there. And but it's definitely not solidified yet."
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Lynch on Bergen, looks like the special teams coaches wanted him
JL: "Well, really our special teams guys they both have some Montana roots and I think this guy's kind of become this sensation. And they kept talking about [special teams coordinator] Brant [Boyer] and [assistant special teams coach] Colt Anderson kept talking about this kid from Montana and really selling him to us. And they did a really good job. And ultimately at the end it's like, are we going to have a chance at free agency if we don't draft them? Is someone else going to draft them right at the end? And so ultimately, I do think and believe that there's added value in returners with the adjustment to the kickoff and the touchbacks coming all the way out to the 35. Probably people are going to be less inclined to just kick it through the endzone, more return opportunities. So, to have a dynamic returner is probably a good thing. And he'll go in there and compete and he's done it really well at the smaller college level. And now he's going to get an opportunity to do it with us."
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clyde21 wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:clyde21 wrote:the hubris on Kyle but its his call and his offense so if it blows up in his face it's 100% on him, sink or swim season for him and his offense
I just don't understand it. Even if Trent and McKivitz were sure things, there literally is not another pure OT on the roster. Is Buford the swing tackle? Why aren't you at least bringing someone in undrafted? Even if only to compete?
This is a year where we should be attacking UDFA and cleaning up. We're a good team with a documented history of turning UDFAs into players, and we have no depth. We should be such a desirable spot. Just seems like we're putting an awful lot of stock in guys who weren't good last year....
from Lynch when asked about why they didnt take other OLJL: "Yeah, we were able to do that in the seventh round with [OL] Connor Colby. But yeah, there were a number of times that we were interested in adding and it just didn't come our way. And you've got to stay true to where you have guys graded, not take guys just to take them but to take guys that you're interested in at that point. And it just never really aligned. And so, we were happy to add Colby. We think he's a really good scheme fit. Great thing about Iowa is they run a very similar, they run a lot of outside zones, so you get to see a guy like him do things that we do and he does them well. So, we're happy to add that. But there were a number of times Kyle and I were talking about that at the end that just didn't align, one of those deals and you don't want to force things. And so, it wasn't our time for that other than Connor and we'll move forward."
Kyle:KS: "Yeah, I would say so. We haven't even gone out with our players yet, but we had those guys at the end of last year and they're both tackles. Spencer's been a guard for us, but he could play swing tackle and started a lot of games for us at guard, but definitely has ability to play tackle. We got Austen at the end of last year, who closed out the season when we had some injuries. I believe it was two games at tackle, did a decent job. There are usually other options too, as the season goes or all the way up until season, there are options usually after cuts at the end of training camp. So, we'll see what our opening day roster is, but we've got a lot of competition for there. And but it's definitely not solidified yet."
During the draft, fine. I don't like it, but I get it. I would DEFINITELY have taken Logan Brown over Bergen, but at that point, no big deal. But then GO GET WHOEVER IS YOUR HIGHEST RATED OT AFTER THE DRAFT!!! All it costs is pennies on the dollar in a signing bonus. Find someone, anyone, to compete/develop. We have nothing in the pipeline.
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Would've loved this draft if they added at least one premium pick for the OL so I'll go with I really liked this draft.
I will say like I did in the other thread if you weren't going to add an OL at least you used those picks to go all in on attacking a major weakness so that does ease the sting a bit. Would've been a way bigger crime if was like in years past where we were spending 3rd rounders on K, RBs, and TE2s.
I'm also a fan of the approach in this draft. We all knew run defense was a massive issue and instead of adding a guy or two that would improve it from bad to being maybe mediocre they went all in and it might be a legit strength towards the end of the season once the rookies develop.
BUT what makes it frustrating is they don't put the same kinda energy in the offensive line. I mean imagine if they decided one draft to use 3 out of their first 4 picks on offensive line. Like a 1st, 3rd, and a 4th and turn it from being below average to being at least above average.
I will say like I did in the other thread if you weren't going to add an OL at least you used those picks to go all in on attacking a major weakness so that does ease the sting a bit. Would've been a way bigger crime if was like in years past where we were spending 3rd rounders on K, RBs, and TE2s.
I'm also a fan of the approach in this draft. We all knew run defense was a massive issue and instead of adding a guy or two that would improve it from bad to being maybe mediocre they went all in and it might be a legit strength towards the end of the season once the rookies develop.
BUT what makes it frustrating is they don't put the same kinda energy in the offensive line. I mean imagine if they decided one draft to use 3 out of their first 4 picks on offensive line. Like a 1st, 3rd, and a 4th and turn it from being below average to being at least above average.