The FIRE MIKE NOLAN Thread

bballguy50 · Post #1 » by **bballguy50** » Sun Oct 5, 2008 11:16 pm

So basically this is a thread for something that should have been a long time ago.

The issues with Nolan would take longer to read than the history of the world.

Hail Martz.

Hotstove907 · Post #2 » by **Hotstove907** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:35 pm

If they lose to the eagles and giants coming up, you cant bet your all mighty dollar he's gone. Question is would we rather hire Martz and keep M.Sing. or Hire M.S. and keep Martz as Off. cord.?

bballguy50 · Post #3 » by **bballguy50** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:48 am

I would say Martz should take over. Let him have his reign over the O. At least Martz will take chances, instead of Nolan backing into a corner like a pussy.

Singletary would be a good choice also, but why not make him the Defensive Coordinator? Manusky has sucked so far. I just don't think he has taken our D to a higher level, and we all know we have the talent on D to improve. Who better to initiate a tougher defensive mindset than Mike "Crazy Eyes" Singletary?

GS Warriors 1 · Post #4 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:12 am

Nolan will likely keep his job through the season.

Singletary would be a good choice also, but why not make him the Defensive Coordinator?

He isn't an X's and O's type of coach, at least from what I've heard. Thats basically the coordinator's job.

Future Coach · Post #5 » by **Future Coach** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:50 am

ya i can't see nolan getting fired mid season, this off season i say it is pretty likely unless the niners really start winning.
the offense has been noticeably better under martz, so much so he will be offered a head coaching job some where. Singletary was rumored to be a head coaching candidate at the end of last season and will be again this season. I say there is a good chance we lose one of them. I've heard that singletary isn't really an x's and o's guy but our defense isn't up to par right now and i think giving singletary a try at defensive coordinator mid season might not be such a bad idea if our d continues to suck.

next season i would like to see martz running the show with singletary running the d, nolan doesn't need to be involved

RIPskaterdude · Post #6 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:59 am

The problem is, the Niners had a chance to easily be 4-1 right now (we should have beat the Cards/Pats, heck the Saints were badly hurt and we should have beat them too imo), and it was very important for us to be over .500 before we started our NFC East part of the schedule...and let's be honest, I don't see us beating the Eagles or Giants unless something amazing happens. So...

Seattle 3-5
@ Arizona 3-6
St. Louis 4-6
@ Dallas 4-7
@ Buffalo 4-8
N.Y. Jets 5-8
@ Miami 6-8
@ St. Louis 7-8
Washington 7-9

I think we'll end up 6-10, though.

bballguy50 · Post #7 » by **bballguy50** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:09 pm

Nolan will likely be fired when the bye week rolls around if we don't start winning. You do not let him go 19-50 or whatever he is through three years. Screw him, I don't care if his dad coached us, stop giving him any rope or leniency.

Over his time here, he has not improved this team, he has not improved his coaching style, he has not improved any part of this franchise. It all falls on him. We are a better team, but he has not allowed us to improve, and that is where Nolan is a gigantic failure.

RIPskaterdude · Post #8 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:13 am

This team is SO frustrating...we SHOULD have beat the Eagles but once again, our defense couldn't stop opposing teams, and when they limited them to FGs, our offense panicked and turned it over...O'Sullivan really isn't going to cut it. How is he only getting 150-200 yards a game in a Martz offense? If we could just hold a 4th quarter lead, we could have been 5-1 VERY easily right now. Too bad our defense keeps playing "don't break, just bend"...even though we have allowed more points than the RAMS. The last two years, we've had a decent D, but an O that wasn't that great and now that our O is at least putting up points, our defense can't stop anyone. ****!

Post #9 » by **Harry Palmer** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:47 pm

There was a point on Sunday when I was actually thinking 'hey, this could be the start of something'.

Surprised no one's talking about him blowing those 2 challenges, the one he did try that wasn't, and the one that was that he didn't try. Those were imo turning points, though who knows if the tide wouldn't have gone that way no matter what...we were looking lost out there towards the end.

Bac2Basics · Post #10 » by **Bac2Basics** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:51 pm

I'm not huge on the idea of firing Nolan, but if he does get let go, I firmly believe that hiring Martz as the new head coach would be a huge mistake.

Martz is a good Offensive Coordinator, but he's failed as a head coach.
I don't know who would make a good realistic choice. I'd love to see Bill Cohwer get it, but I imagine that's a little unrealistic.

bballguy50 · Post #11 » by **bballguy50** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:27 pm

Bac2Basics wrote:I'm not huge on the idea of firing Nolan, but if he does get let go, I firmly believe that hiring Martz as the new head coach would be a huge mistake.

Martz is a good Offensive Coordinator, but he's failed as a head coach.
I don't know who would make a good realistic choice. I'd love to see Bill Cohwer get it, but I imagine that's a little unrealistic.

Nolan hasn't failed massively as head coach?

Get real, while Martz is not without his faults, he would be a huge improvement over Nolan in pretty much every aspect of coaching. Just get Nolan the hell out of here.

Furthermore, our defensive coordinating is abysmal. We put no pressure on the QB, except when it doesn't matter anymore, or when they are on our 10 yard line. We get burned way too often because our D-coaches can't think of any other scheme besides a soft zone, and it costs us repeatedly on 3rd downs.

This sucks...

Post #12 » by **Harry Palmer** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:22 am

I've seen the team lose by a lot wider margins and not look nearly as awful as we did today. That was one hell of a display. NY was almost as bad, but we managed to pull it out in the end.

God, that was awful.

Not even saying it was Nolan's fault...dunno how we blame him for the players repeatedly having braincramps or just plain dropping the ball, literally and figuratively. Just this seems like the place to vent, and the team isn't worth another thread right now.

bballguy50 · Post #13 » by **bballguy50** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:31 am

No doubt, JT was awful today. Morgan dropped that ball right through his hands, and JT missed Bruce on that potential big gain. It is just so frustrating - if we would have made better decisions (players and coaches), we could be 5-2 or at least 4-3. Just stating the obvious though.

What have we got to lose by giving [Shaun] Hill a chance at QB? JT doesn't know the meaning of throwing the ball away when under pressure, and he can't seem to read DBs playing under routes very well. From what I remember, Hill made decent decisions when he played, at least better than JT has.

But the coaches shouldn't escape blame for today's game. We could have stopped them on some 3rd downs (or at least put some pressure), but we just laid back in a zone D which allowed the Giants to pick up first-downs all over the place.