Early Mock Draft / OFfseason stuff

[ticknyler]

Very early but pased on projections of rounds certain players are going in, this is something i wouldnt mind seeing go down.

1st-Lupati-OG- Big bruising guard, wont have to worry about posistion for 10 years--Pro Bowler
1st-Williams-OT-Solidfy the O-LIne as Williams can play RT where hes more comfortable.
2nd-Ky Williams-CB- Solid Cornerback from Boise that dubs as a KR returner
3rd-Rolle-SS- Our safety to pair with Goldson for future. SMART and a leader. Solid player for years
4th-Houston-DT- More D-Line Depth never hurts, could play end and potentially tackle in a 3-4
5th-Blount-RB-Character concern drops him this far, but Sing will take care of that ala T. Brown, didnt like what i saw out of Coffe-
6th-Shoefield- Solid 3-4 linebacker who would have gone earlier but has been injured in All-Star Game.
7th-Whoever the best KR/PR is at this point.

(is McCluster is available i would have to consider taking him to address the team speed aspect instead of Rolle in the 3rd and then address Safety maybe in round 5)

WOuld like to see a CB addressed in FA and a speed running back to help compliment Gore. Not a big fan of the guy but if Reggie Bush became available i wouldnt mind offering him a decent contract. Biggest lack on the Niners is Overall team speed so whoever they bring in, they better be fast. Maybe a fast WR becomes available in FA that we can go after to replace as Bruce and Battle are slow and gone.

[darobster17]

So you don't think we need a new QB? either in the draft or the FA market? I'm not sold on Alex Smith and hope the Niners bring in someone to compete for the starting QB.

I'd like the Niners get Brad Smith(Jets) in the off season...He's the super special utility guy.

I really hope that Rolando McClain falls to the NINERS but like your 1st round picks in improving the O-line. What do you think of Bryan Bulaga?

Lastly do you think the Niners will pass on CJ Spiller if he's available at #13?

[ticknyler]

I do think the Niners will need a QB but this is not the year for a couple reasons.

1. Theres is 0 FA at the qb posistion with Chad Pennington maybe being the class of the market
2. Theres no stud in the draft so lets build a team and place a QB in it and give him a chance to succeed ALA Mark Sanchez and the Jets and Big Ben and the Steelers.
3. Not alot of faith, but Alex is deff the best option at this point, and 1st time with same cordinator.

I do like brad smith and dont kno if hes a FA, but agree with the need of that type of player.

I go back N forth with the idea of CJ Spiller and if i would take him if he were there at 13 and the more i think about it, i do like it. He fits major needs such as Speed, change of pace back, solid replacement if frank gets hurt, and the X factor in the return game.

Btw, McClain doesnt fill a need although hes a hell of a football player. Take Brandon Spikes much later in draft if needed but i like Mckilop as eventual replacement to our Takeo Spikes. Dime a dozen as we already have P-Willy obviously.

I would be okay with Spiller if we took a Tackle with the next pick, and were satisfied with a Guard in the 2nd which would probably be the 2nd or 3rd rated guard in the draft. The tackle could be Bulaga or Williams as i like em both, and from what i understand Bulaga is a better run blocker.

Draft could call into something like this if we went that way.

1. Spiller
1. Williams/Bulaga
2. Ducasse whos a converted T to G based on Senior Bowl performance
3. Arenas CB from Bama or Murphy CB from south florida
4. Rolle SS-still like him and the more i read he can go from rd 3-5 so 4 might fit. still think he will go earlier.
5. DT
6. OL
7. WR

[ticknyler]

Reason for taking Spiller instead of a G is i believe the drop off from Spiller to the next RB in line is much greater than the G position. with that said, what do you value more, a G or a Playmaker

[Danny Darko]

I do have a feeling someone will be bold enough to grab Iupati earlier than than the end of the round. Having seen Steve Hutchinson play I would endorse that option for you guys, though I think Bulaga is better than Williams at left tackle. RT would definitely be Trent, though.

I would go fa on the QB situation. I think Smith is good enough to look at a Pennington, or maybe in an uncapped year or depending how how Washington drafts, I really think you guys would be dangerous with Jason Campbell.

In case you have interest in the Seahawks picks divisionally, here's a pretty good guess this early:

6-Berry, Okung, Bradford/Clausen

14-Spiller(if you don't), Bulaga/Bruce Campbell if you do, outside chance of Iupati

[azwfan]

Very early but pased on projections of rounds certain players are going in, this is something i wouldnt mind seeing go down.

1st-Lupati-OG- Big bruising guard, wont have to worry about posistion for 10 years--Pro Bowler
1st-Williams-OT-Solidfy the O-LIne as Williams can play RT where hes more comfortable.
2nd-Ky Williams-CB- Solid Cornerback from Boise that dubs as a KR returner
3rd-Rolle-SS- Our safety to pair with Goldson for future. SMART and a leader. Solid player for years
4th-Houston-DT- More D-Line Depth never hurts, could play end and potentially tackle in a 3-4
5th-Blount-RB-Character concern drops him this far, but Sing will take care of that ala T. Brown, didnt like what i saw out of Coffe-
6th-Shoefield- Solid 3-4 linebacker who would have gone earlier but has been injured in All-Star Game.
7th-Whoever the best KR/PR is at this point.

(is McCluster is available i would have to consider taking him to address the team speed aspect instead of Rolle in the 3rd and then address Safety maybe in round 5)

WOuld like to see a CB addressed in FA and a speed running back to help compliment Gore. Not a big fan of the guy but if Reggie Bush became available i wouldnt mind offering him a decent contract. Biggest lack on the Niners is Overall team speed so whoever they bring in, they better be fast. Maybe a fast WR becomes available in FA that we can go after to replace as Bruce and Battle are slow and gone.

I like the idea of Bush also, if at the right price. I'm not to up on the players in the draft, but would like to address the OL and the defensive backfield, as i see you've done.

Addressing another post i dont think this is a good year to grab a QB either. We have Alex Smith who i'm not sold on, but is decent enough. And we're still not sure what we have in Nate Davis who we drafted last year, but looked good. I'd like to see us bring in a veteran QB in FA. Orton or Pennington come to mind. Let the vet fight it out with Smith for the starting spot, while bringing Nate Davis along.

[GS Warriors 1]

I'm not sold on Smith like the rest but FA doesn't look enticing at all and the draft position for a QB is murky at best. Clausen and Bradford will be top 6 picks and there is no other QB worth taking in the teens, hell I wouldn't take any other in the top 75. Make Smith the guy for 2010 and avoid QB controversey because those don't end too well.

[ticknyler]

Agreed with everything you said GS Warriors

[Wolfay]

I'd like to see Smith have one more go. There were a few flashes of brilliance last season which makes me not want to give up on him quite yet. Remember we switched offensive schemes in the middle of the season and the team had to adjust on the fly, making it hard to gauge Smith's and the rest of the offense's potential.

Needless to say if he stinks it up then it's time to look for a new QB (again).

[Nicky Nix Nook]

O LINE O LINE O LINE

D BACK D BACK D BACK

CRIBBS CRIBBS CRIBBS

/off season

[ahonui06]

Chilo Rachal is awful at RG. When the 37 year old Zgonina blew by him for a sack in the Texans game I knew we needed a knew RG. The niners are probably gonna use one of their 1st rounders on Trent Williams or Bulaga for RT since Snyder and Pashos are awful. If the Niners could also get Iupati at RG, that would be an A+ for the 1st round. 2nd Round should definitely either be SS or CB. Niners can probably sign a return man like Cribbs through free agency.

[GS Warriors 1]

Iupati is a LG, mainly. He's played some right but LG is his best position. I'm still not sure why the team moved Baas from RG, his best season so far was at that position.

And I'm surprised how many would overpay for Cribbs in a trade, he isn't a FA. I just happen to think you can find returners late into the draft and even into UDFA.

[ahonui06]

dream come true would be Iupati and Trent Williams in the 1st round, but I don't think 49ers will draft 2 OL with 2 1st round picks.

[ticknyler]

I would love a combo of Wiliams and Lupati as well, and could see that happening with singletary as HC. But, if a playmaker is there like CJ SPiller, i can really see that being a real possibility.

[Commodor]

Everyone agrees that the niners need an upgrade in their secondary. Oakland is rumored to be shopping Asomugha (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl,223869) and even though he's got a HUGE contract I think we could lure them into taking Clements if we throw one of our first round picks. Spencer and Asomugha starting with Harris and Bly(assuming we resign) would we be plenty of depth and that deadbeat Roman could be cut finally.

Assuming that one of our picks is wrapped in the previous deal I agree that a strong speed player like Spiller would be essential. However I feel we could find this again through trade if we play our cards right. Joshua Cribbs on the Browns has made it known he wants out and I'm willing to bet we could get him without giving up a top pick. I would be willing to give up Jason Hill+2nd or even Josh Morgan+3rd. Cribbs is a solid all around player, and especially under Singletary his talent will truly be utilized. Also another solution that does not require our first would be to take a risk on Jhavid Best out of CAL. Although he did have the concussion that should do little to his speed and agility. He should be around in the 2nd-maybe 3rd and would be a home town favorite.

Although many of you will mock me for the next part I truly believe that with our last 1st round pick we should not draft an OL. Yes we do need an upgrade in the trenches however if history says anything it is that our scouts are not the best at finding quality through the draft. Staley has been decent but is not a top tier lineman in the league and there is lots of talent to be had in this draft. Personally I believe that our defense is gonna be the thing to carry us and although in my hypothetical off season I have already made a move for a secondary player I would use the pick to grab Eric Berry out of Tennesse if he is still available or Taylor Mays. Both are enormous athletes and along with Goldson would solidify the 9ers as the dominant defense in the league against the pass and the run.

The last move on the list would be to take the remaining second or third pick and add it with a player like snyder and trade for an established lineman. The Patriots have two extremely talent left tackles and are in desperate need of finding some depth so we might not even need to add an OL rather a player like Takeo Spikes, he may be old but he is still a quality player and two good years from him would be a good incentive along with a 2nd or 3rd. Sebastian Vollmer for Takeo+2nd. Scott Mckillop steps in, a great young talent who led the team every pre-season game in tackles and set records in college.

[Commodor]

Note: I know Vollmer is a relative no name and also a LT(Joe Staley's position) but if you watched the Colts/Patriots game this year, the pats star LT Matt Light was out and Vollmer stepped in and one on one vs DWIGHT FREENEY he prevented him from ever reaching Brady. With a player of that talent and with Staley's athleticism Im sure we could rotate the line up around.

[ahonui06]

Usually in the NFL, players are traded for draft picks straight up. It's pretty rare to trade players for players plus draft picks. I read a stupid rumor on RealGM that the 49ers were thinking of trading their 2nd 1st round pick for McNabb. I would be pissed if they did that. I rather draft Iupati and Trent Williams, or at least a decent CB or pass rusher. McNabb is old and always chokes when it gets down to the conference championship or the 1 super bowl he played in.

[Commodor]

I would much rather keep our players don't get me wrong. Also interesting article on yahoo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns
Taylor Mays is a complete stud and it looks like Singletary might make a move for him. Would make our safeties scary good especially if they can learn from Lewis and Clements.

[ahonui06]

I would much rather keep our players don't get me wrong. Also interesting article on yahoo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns
Taylor Mays is a complete stud and it looks like Singletary might make a move for him. Would make our safeties scary good especially if they can learn from Lewis and Clements.

Taylor Mays is a younger Michael Lewis. A safety that just wants to make big hits and can't cover for crap. Rather have Earl Thomas because although he doesnt have as much speed as Mays he tackles better consistently and he can cover.

[thesack12]

Personally I would rather go O-Line with both 1sts than take Mays or Thomas at either slot.

But I would take a long look @ Mays if he's still on the board for Frisco in the 2nd. But with his athleticism and 40 time, I don't think he lasts that long (Thomas will be gone by then)