Ryan Grubb Fired

Post #1 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jan 6, 2025 5:07 pm

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Post #2 » by **Danny Darko** » Mon Jan 6, 2025 6:00 pm

Well, yeah anyone with that kind of RB talent who won't run...

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Post #3 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jan 6, 2025 6:34 pm

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Post #4 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jan 6, 2025 6:46 pm

Danny Darko wrote:Well, yeah anyone with that kind of RB talent who won't run...

It was the right decision. You can't run a college offense & expect the results to be any different.

Post #5 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:08 am

Fascinating read!!!

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The Giants game is really when things started to unravel. Then both the Packers & Vikings games basically sealed his fate. Not the least bit surprising.

Post #6 » by **Danny Darko** » Thu Jan 9, 2025 6:21 pm

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likes to run and coached the best o-line in the league you say?? :nod:

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Post #8 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Jan 9, 2025 6:50 pm

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likes to run and coached the best o-line in the league you say??

I don't think he's ever called plays. But...

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Post #9 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Jan 9, 2025 6:52 pm

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Not a huge fan of this one. The Bears offense was a disaster this season. I'm hoping it's just a Rooney Rule compliance thing. You have to interview at least one or two minority candidates.

Post #10 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Jan 9, 2025 8:50 pm

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I like it.

Klint Kubiak has play calling experience & comes from the Shanahan tree. He worked under Shanahan in SF. He might be my favorite of the three names so far. But I'm also intrigued by Hank Fraley & his OL background. Two good names to start.

Post #11 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:56 pm

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Post #12 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:43 pm

Another name...

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Post #13 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:13 am

Both Kubiak & Udinski have worked with Sam Darnold. If they end up hiring either one, I wonder if they bring in Darnold as a Geno replacement. At least as a short-term filler. Since Darnold would know the offense.

If they release Geno, they will save more than $30m in cap space.

It's an interesting potential scenario at play.

Post #14 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:25 pm

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Post #15 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:30 pm

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Post #16 » by **Danny Darko** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:54 am

Hmm I like this, but not a major source at all:

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Post #17 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:32 am

Danny Darko wrote:Hmm I like this, but not a major source at all:

I hate to say it, but my gut says he was selected partly due to the Rooney Rule. As a courtesy, you need two minority candidates (interviews) to comply with it. Any time you hire a Head Coach or Coordinator. Thomas Brown & Leftwich would obviously qualify.

Kubiak & Udinski are the only two names to have had a 2nd interview as far as we know.

Corbin also says that they like Hank Fraley (Lions OL coach) but that they can't bring him in for an in-person interview until the Lions are officially eliminated from the Playoffs.

Most of those in the media seem to think that Kubiak is the favorite. But it's also possible that they try to add someone like Udinski to the staff as a QB Coach/Pass game Coordinator.

Fwiw Leftwich doesn't really fit. His offenses have been very pass heavy in the past. Whereas both Kubiak & Udinski come from the Shanahan/McVay trees.

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Post #18 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:29 am

Well, Fraley is now available! That was a shocker.

Post #19 » by **Danny Darko** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:53 am

Cactus Jack wrote:Well, Fraley is now available! That was a shocker.

base philosophy makes me want him for sure.... Kubes and some others might be more nuanced, but Hank seems the most ready to eat up TOP, but physical in the forward trenches and run game.

Post #20 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:48 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:Well, Fraley is now available! That was a shocker.

base philosophy makes me want him for sure.... Kubes and some others might be more nuanced, but Hank seems the most ready to eat up TOP, but physical in the forward trenches and run game.

The only thing I worry about with Fraley is his inexperience as a playcaller. But otherwise he would definitely fit the vision of Mike & where this team wants to go. Being the bully.

If they hire Kubiak, it's because of his experience as a playcaller & the fact that the scheme itself is proven. It's the most popular around the league.

Udinski is a hotshot that may or may not be ready for the role. You're basically taking a big swing with him. But it could also be a swing & miss.