OT - Is stealing signs cheating?
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OT - Is stealing signs cheating?
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OT - Is stealing signs cheating?
Not sure I should have this in the OT board, but I'd like to get opinions from fellow Jays fans!
Anyways, why do teams have such a huge beef if opposing teams are stealing their signs? That is something I never understood..
For example, if Team B has a runner on 2nd, and looking at the signs that the catcher from Team A is giving, why would Team A be upset? Make better signs then!
It seems that I hear teams get upset at other teams because of this.. If I'm not mistaken, I think when Orlando Hudson was on the team, if he was a runner at 2nd, he'd tip the batter, and you'd hear complaints.. What is O-Dawg supposed to do?? Cover his eyes?!
Thoughts?
Anyways, why do teams have such a huge beef if opposing teams are stealing their signs? That is something I never understood..
For example, if Team B has a runner on 2nd, and looking at the signs that the catcher from Team A is giving, why would Team A be upset? Make better signs then!
It seems that I hear teams get upset at other teams because of this.. If I'm not mistaken, I think when Orlando Hudson was on the team, if he was a runner at 2nd, he'd tip the batter, and you'd hear complaints.. What is O-Dawg supposed to do?? Cover his eyes?!
Thoughts?
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- GHOAT (Greatest Hater Of All Time)
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Yes and no. Teams definitely do try and steal signs from the catcher and the base coaches, but when opposing teams get wind of it, there's an unwritten rule that you're allowed to retaliate.
As for your runner on 2nd example, that is exactly why catchers flash multiple signs. So baserunners can't easily figure out the signs. And many batteries will change the indicator every inning to make it tough to find a pattern.
As for your runner on 2nd example, that is exactly why catchers flash multiple signs. So baserunners can't easily figure out the signs. And many batteries will change the indicator every inning to make it tough to find a pattern.
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I have absolutely no problem with this. It's part of the game, and responsibility falls into the hands of the opposing team to stop it.
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MalReyn wrote:
What IS cheating would be, say, putting someone in the center field bleachers with binoculars to steal signs.
When players steal signs I have no problem with it at all because it's just part of the game, but I wonder if a team has ever tried what MalReyn is suggesting with a person in the stands.
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evilRyu wrote:Then why the heck do teams complain about it in the first place then?
They complain only when it's done obviously, if you have the runner on second putting his hand up with the pitch that was called or doing something to distract the catcher from his job, expect that the batter will get a ball in the chest...Throwing at the head or behind the player is looking to injure them, throwing at their chest or lower is just sending a message "Stop acting like a child"
There is a right way and a wrong way to do it, do it the wrong way and people get pissed.
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LittleOzzy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
When players steal signs I have no problem with it at all because it's just part of the game, but I wonder if a team has ever tried what MalReyn is suggesting with a person in the stands.
For sure they have.
There was a huge controversy a few years ago about something along these lines in a college game/tournament. I think the host team was accused of having a camara hidden in CF after the fact.
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Couldn't find anything on the college controversy (it might have been a high school team actually). But here's another article on the subject:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-104362915.html
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-104362915.html
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
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Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
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