Are You Ready To Defeat Your Beloved? Beverley In Enemy Territory
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Are You Ready To Defeat Your Beloved? Beverley In Enemy Territory
Okay, so the title is click baity. Here's something more grounded in fact:
Seriously though, this move could be what puts Lakers into playoff race. And we all know that Clippers lost to former savior Chris Paul in 2021. Moreso, they lost to fan favorite Beverley in play-in. Winning titles requires Clippers defeating someone they once truly loved, no matter how impactful they've been to their franchise.
Bottom line: how can Clippers be title contenders if they cannot put their past behind them?
Seriously though, this move could be what puts Lakers into playoff race. And we all know that Clippers lost to former savior Chris Paul in 2021. Moreso, they lost to fan favorite Beverley in play-in. Winning titles requires Clippers defeating someone they once truly loved, no matter how impactful they've been to their franchise.
Bottom line: how can Clippers be title contenders if they cannot put their past behind them?
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Wammy Giveaway wrote:
Bottom line: how can Clippers be title contenders if they cannot put their past behind them?
Kawhi came here to clear the slate and continue his own legacy. He already won the Raptors their only chip now and forever, and then came home to SoCal to win one AND MORE. He had NO INTEREST in being part of the Lakers' 17th banner.
The Sterling years are GONE. The Ballmer years are already starting to snowball into a decades-long juggernaut and Kawhi is ALREADY part of that legacy to come. Nobody on this team even knows who the hell Benoit Benjamin was.

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Wammy Giveaway wrote:Okay, so the title is click baity. Here's something more grounded in fact:
Seriously though, this move could be what puts Lakers into playoff race.
Lakers need a Clippers heart transplant lol
Because the Laker culture is garbage. They treated Trezz like shi*t and JaVale and Dwight Howard. And dumped Randle and Lonzo and Ingraham and Kuzma and Hart. And Dennis Schroeder, now they want him back??
And frankly it's on LEBRON to harness Westbrook's triple-double skills. And he won't. Laker culture SUCKS and what's wrong Pat Bev can't fix. Pat will be on LeBron's shittlist by Christmas.
[Now Philly, yah THAT Pat could fix... :wink]

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Once you stop donning the Clipper uniform, on the court, you are no longer beloved, but, rather, an enemy.
Doesn't matter what team you are on, or what led to your exit.
Doesn't matter what team you are on, or what led to your exit.
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I like Bev but at this point of his career, I would take a 26yo, 6'6 Stanley Johnson over him any day of the week. And then you throw in THT..... I know Lakers fans hate THT but c'mon, he's only 21.
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He's not my "beloved." I was done with him when he spent what felt like 90% of his last season here in street clothes, then embarrassed himself and the franchise in his last game as a Clipper. Have fun with that, Lakers.

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ejftw wrote:Once you stop donning the Clipper uniform, on the court, you are no longer beloved, but, rather, an enemy.
Doesn't matter what team you are on, or what led to your exit.
Pat Bev = #Clipper4Life
gave his ALL in 4 years as a Clipper--very much like Sam I Am he put his stamp on HIS team--
the "winning culture" of the 2018-19 Clippers was why Kawhi CHOSE the Clippers over the Lakers and other suitors
and it was Ballmer who dumped Pat
so let's not spit on our history
we ain't won jacksh*it yet
that's not to say I won't keep tuning in the Lakers and hope they lose by 20


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Really liked Bev when he was here, and I think he's a good pickup for the Lakers. A lesser but influential player who will take on a leadership role is worth more than it seems.
On the court, it's a different story. He's missed 40% of his team's games in the last three seasons. His shooting has gone down in each of the last two years. He's 34 now. If the Lakers get 1000 injury free minutes out of him, it will be surprising--and that ain't much.
Don't know about this beloved stuff. I have good memories of him, wished him well when he left, hope we defeat him and his new team now.
On the court, it's a different story. He's missed 40% of his team's games in the last three seasons. His shooting has gone down in each of the last two years. He's 34 now. If the Lakers get 1000 injury free minutes out of him, it will be surprising--and that ain't much.
Don't know about this beloved stuff. I have good memories of him, wished him well when he left, hope we defeat him and his new team now.

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I think this might be the funniest tweet about the Pat Bev trade:
One of the best players to ever play the game solidifying Pat Bev's importance and denigrating the current talent on his own team is hysterical. Didn't realize that Pat Bev was the missing piece.
One of the best players to ever play the game solidifying Pat Bev's importance and denigrating the current talent on his own team is hysterical. Didn't realize that Pat Bev was the missing piece.
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TrueLAfan wrote:Don't know about this beloved stuff. I have good memories of him, wished him well when he left, hope we defeat him and his new team now.
That's just me and my "how can I get people's attention with just the right words without making it a hot take". Even I admit the title is click-baity, but this is how it works now in the sports world. Might as well make use of it, right? An eye for an eye.
Seriously, in my years watching Clippers since the 2012 lockout season, I learned that fans have a huge tendency of lamenting over the loss of their fan favorites just because the team had a collapse, meltdown, or catastrophe. The first 3-1 collapse saw DeAndre Jordan joining Mavericks for a short stint before the emoji war happened, and the vibes I got was sadness, humiliation, anger, as if the Clippers were being punished by having one of their core players unwillingly taken away from them. That feeling became more clearer once Chris Paul demanded out and the team replaced him with Milos Teodosic, thinking his production could easily be replaced. In reality, it felt to me like Clippers were jilted and wanted revenge on their former savior. The conference finals meeting between Clippers and Chris Paul was poignant alone: tying his playing career high in the series clinching Game 6, the only player who could draw an ejection on a Clipper after going the entire season without one, especially knowing they were under a huge microscope following the greatest 3-1 collapse in NBA history.
The Clippers need to understand that nothing is personal, business is always going to be paramount when it comes to competition. Most of the time a team loses in the playoffs is because their emotions are an uncontrollable high, not being able to keep focus of the situation, and feeling like they need to do something herculean in order to be loved, respected and worshiped. It's good that Clippers have a Good Samaritan Spur in Kawhi Leonard, who learned about the fallacies of egos, blowhards and narcissists from the great Tim Duncan. Duncan knew his opponents preferred chaos and mayhem, so he responded by not giving them that. Be respectful, be courteous, be an ambassador, find something that is worth fighting for, and channel that into your game. By doing this, Duncan created this invisible shield which made him immune to techs, flagrants and ejections. On the flip side, it's the opponents who are drawing the techs, pulling out flagrants, and finding themselves ejected from games. Duncan is the living example of rubber: "I am rubber, you are glue, everything you say [and do] bounces off of me and goes back to you."
Clippers have to understand the ins and outs of competition. This is not about getting highlight reel plays, winning accolades, or getting back at your old teammates for getting into their feelings. It's about winning a championship, bringing legitimacy to a franchise that has never had it. You can kind of see why I'm so critical of them despite their newfound success and complete 180. They needed a double 2-0 comeback to make their first ever conference finals, and their first opponent was ironically their former savior. Like the previous two rounds, Clippers prevented a 3-0 lead, and once Paul made it 3-1, he knew that Clippers were going to take it personal by pulling off a 3-1 comeback. What better way to atone for two 3-1 collapses within a five year span than by having a 3-1 comeback of their own against a player who has already been in one! Paul took that threat seriously and shut them down in Game 6. Paul has conquered his demons: have Clippers? Trading Beverley didn't seem like it, it felt more like they still had feelings over letting down Paul, and Beverley shoving Paul was seen as disgraceful. In the end, it felt to me like Clippers were unwilling to add to Paul's long line of playoff failures, so they were willing to let this loss slide. Clippers should have tried to go for a Game 7, even without Leonard.
I always keep this in perspective: Clipper's turnaround was due to a vetoed trade. David Stern threw them a bone after witnessing the Laker's unceremonious disgraceful sweep at the hands of the Mavericks. Now the Clippers have to prove they can be an honest competitor without any sort of executive meddling from outside the club. It also means not taking this personal. Beverley played a part in those double 2-0 comebacks: that was in the past. Now they have to defeat Beverley. What if Clippers and Lakers meet in playoffs, and one of their guys does something to Beverley that warrants an ejection? What if it came from one of their superstars? Will they trade that player just because they hurt a former Clipper? I wouldn't say trading Beverley cost them a playoff appearance, no Leonard for the season was already an indication. But I will say that if something like this were to happen again, then it proves my point that Clippers are incapable of controlling their emotions.
I know that Clippers can do this. Spoiler of large margins of defeats, master of preventing 3-0 leads. They broke Jazz. Can they break a former Clipper?
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esqtvd wrote:ejftw wrote:Once you stop donning the Clipper uniform, on the court, you are no longer beloved, but, rather, an enemy.
Doesn't matter what team you are on, or what led to your exit.
Pat Bev = #Clipper4Life
gave his ALL in 4 years as a Clipper--very much like Sam I Am he put his stamp on HIS team--
the "winning culture" of the 2018-19 Clippers was why Kawhi CHOSE the Clippers over the Lakers and other suitors
and it was Ballmer who dumped Pat
so let's not spit on our history
we ain't won jacksh*it yet
that's not to say I won't keep tuning in the Lakers and hope they lose by 20
I'm not spitting on any history, and it doesn't matter if you aren't a Clipper anymore because your a scumbag like Judas Brand/Turncoat Trez, got screwed by the franchise not sticking by you or their promise like Blake/Livingston or it was a mutual-esque departure like Bad Porn/Radmanovic.
Any player that isn't wearing a Clippers uni is the enemy on the court against the Clips. Maybe I should have specified against the Clips part. But that doesn't mean I won't root for them off the court/otherwise, but never in a game against the Clips
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Thought trying to make Pat Bev the heart and soul of our team was dumb to start.
He solidified that pushing CP3 in the back and tricking off a playoff game we had a chance to win in the bubble.
I wasn’t enamored with him then.
I am not enamored with him now.
I don’t see him as having leadership qualities or value.
Hope we sweep em this year.
He solidified that pushing CP3 in the back and tricking off a playoff game we had a chance to win in the bubble.
I wasn’t enamored with him then.
I am not enamored with him now.
I don’t see him as having leadership qualities or value.
Hope we sweep em this year.
“I’ve always felt that drafting is the life blood of any organization.” - Jerome Alan West.
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ejftw wrote:esqtvd wrote:ejftw wrote:Once you stop donning the Clipper uniform, on the court, you are no longer beloved, but, rather, an enemy.
Doesn't matter what team you are on, or what led to your exit.
Pat Bev = #Clipper4Life
gave his ALL in 4 years as a Clipper--very much like Sam I Am he put his stamp on HIS team--
the "winning culture" of the 2018-19 Clippers was why Kawhi CHOSE the Clippers over the Lakers and other suitors
and it was Ballmer who dumped Pat
so let's not spit on our history
we ain't won jacksh*it yet
that's not to say I won't keep tuning in the Lakers and hope they lose by 20
I'm not spitting on any history, and it doesn't matter if you aren't a Clipper anymore because your a scumbag like Judas Brand/Turncoat Trez, got screwed by the franchise not sticking by you or their promise like Blake/Livingston or it was a mutual-esque departure like Bad Porn/Radmanovic.
Any player that isn't wearing a Clippers uni is the enemy on the court against the Clips. Maybe I should have specified against the Clips part. But that doesn't mean I won't root for them off the court/otherwise, but never in a game against the Clips
ok cool
there are some ex-Clips I root for, some against
but never for the Lakers lol

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Quake Griffin wrote:Thought trying to make Pat Bev the heart and soul of our team was dumb to start.
He solidified that pushing CP3 in the back and tricking off a playoff game we had a chance to win in the bubble.
I wasn’t enamored with him then.
I am not enamored with him now.
I don’t see him as having leadership qualities or value.
Hope we sweep em this year.
He's going to be the #1 trending topic on Twitter the first time he gets ejected towards the end of a winnable game over stupid BS.

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