Game #20 DEN @ Clippers—Friday 11/25 7:30 pm [NOTE: KTLA-TV]

[Akklaim1]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while.

your terms are acceptable

gtfoh

FANS ONLY

You really believe he’ll take a break? Lol.

[esqtvd]

Brian Sieman kept talking about we gotta take advantage of those "no-Jokic" minutes. Well no Jokic no problem when you got a 4 PPG player name Vlako Cancer Cancar, who single handedly neutralized our "comeback" in the 4th. The "depth" of this team is about as overrated as Doc as a coach.

oh please not this again
Doc won again tonight without his top 3 players

not that I blame you scapegoating is easy

I am 76er fan as well and damn if they just aint Clippers East
and they douche Doc there same as here lol

CP3-Blake
Harden-Embiid
Kawhi-PG

the best ability is availability

trade me Steph or Giannis
for any of those 6
and I'll show you the rings

[esqtvd]

john wall doing everything he can

They all did. I don't think anyone played selfishly--we shot 54%--but it's hard to get a team vibe with 9 guys competing for playing time going in and out.

Looking at the stats, everybody had a good stat and a disgusting stat. Wall had a team-high 23 points but a second-worst minus-14. That about sums it up. VERY schizophrenic box score.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468440

I guess if you're going to scapegoat anyone it's Zu--team-worst minus-22. Joker was plus+19. We lost by 10.

[esqtvd]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while.

your terms are acceptable

gtfoh

FANS ONLY

You really believe he’ll take a break? Lol.

U R funny man

didnt even show up until late in the 4th when they were already throwing dirt on our grave

gtfoh we aint dead yet

[NickP]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while. This is unwatchable, you just know Kawhi/PG will be out for a while (what else is new), and Lue will continue to stubbornly lose with his favorite washed veterans than actually give us a reason to watch these games by playing the young guys.

You need to take a break from your lofty expectations of this team. They lost 2 games to two very good teams. Don't let the Dubs' record fool you. They're resurging again. They've got their rhythm.
Also, they have their entire squads back while we're expecting role players to go and beat these teams. Yeah, losing hurts but stay patient.

[esqtvd]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while. This is unwatchable, you just know Kawhi/PG will be out for a while (what else is new), and Lue will continue to stubbornly lose with his favorite washed veterans than actually give us a reason to watch these games by playing the young guys.

You need to take a break from your lofty expectations of this team. They lost 2 games to two very good teams. Don't let the Dubs' record fool you. They're resurging again. They've got their rhythm.
Also, they have their entire squads back while we're expecting role players to go and beat these teams. Yeah, losing hurts but stay patient.

Lofty?


That's nice, Nick but needs to stop ruining every fckng game thread with post after post attacking the coach and the last coach and the players and the former players and the front office and the trainer and the mascot and the ticket takers

gtfoh

everybody tonight did their best
it was a shittty loss but nobody quit

it's November ffs
and our top 2 players are out
and we're still in the playoffs

take your act to the Lakers board

[Clemenza]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while. This is unwatchable, you just know Kawhi/PG will be out for a while (what else is new), and Lue will continue to stubbornly lose with his favorite washed veterans than actually give us a reason to watch these games by playing the young guys.

You need to take a break from your lofty expectations of this team. They lost 2 games to two very good teams. Don't let the Dubs' record fool you. They're resurging again. They've got their rhythm.
Also, they have their entire squads back while we're expecting role players to go and beat these teams. Yeah, losing hurts but stay patient.

Stay patient? Are you ready for more play in games at the end of the season? Our so called depth is only effective when PG & Kawhi plays. When they're out for lengthy periods of time -like always- we're just spinning our wheels. No player development, no new tactics, no building towards the future.. just making sure the vet role players get their minutes and shots up. That's all we're watching now

[PeteyPablo]

Very true that it is November and we are still in the playoff picture.

I fell asleep during the third QTR. Woke up at 2:00am and checked phone for the final score. Looks like Clippers gave a strong effort but the Nuggets just kept that 10 separation.

Looking at the stats - Clippers played a great game. Shot 50% from 3pt. 54% fg. They were slightly out rebounded. They missed a bunch of free throws but looks like the difference in the game was the 14 turnovers for 22 points .

It is what it is right now. Pacers are next this Sunday at 1:00pm.

Then Blazers on Tuesday.

It’s 5:30am here in CA and I am getting ready to go to the gym. Have a nice Saturday and we will see you Sunday.

[MartinToVaught]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while. This is unwatchable, you just know Kawhi/PG will be out for a while (what else is new), and Lue will continue to stubbornly lose with his favorite washed veterans than actually give us a reason to watch these games by playing the young guys.

You need to take a break from your lofty expectations of this team. They lost 2 games to two very good teams. Don't let the Dubs' record fool you. They're resurging again. They've got their rhythm.
Also, they have their entire squads back while we're expecting role players to go and beat these teams. Yeah, losing hurts but stay patient.

Lofty expectations? We have one of the most expensive teams in basketball, traded years of draft picks, and they barely play together. We're quickly becoming a "what-if" team like the T-Mac/Hill Magic, the T-Mac/Yao Rockets, or the Roy/Oden Blazers. You must have the patience of a saint to not be getting frustrated by this.

If we're going to lose without Kawhi, I would rather lose with guys like BBJ, Preston and Moussa getting as many reps as possible along with Mann/Coffey (who, in fairness to Lue, are getting minutes). Watching our aging veteran role players get blown out just isn't an entertaining product, and at the end of the day, this is supposed to be entertainment.

[Bobbymcgee]

With the injuries it feels like last season never ended. Really hope this isn't going to end up another 42 and 40 season.

[esqtvd]

it's November

season doesn't start 'til Christmas lol

if the playoffs started today they'd play

[Roscoe Sheed]

While patience is needed, at some point these guys need to play through injuries if they aren't major ones.

They are leaving these guys hanging out to dry busting their asses while the team takes player health (particularly of their 2 stars) so seriously. If they are stuck in the play in again this strategy needs to be questioned.

Or the fans are owed more info regarding how serious these injuries are- it seems like a hangnail could result in a 2 week absence with this training staff.

[esqtvd]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while. This is unwatchable, you just know Kawhi/PG will be out for a while (what else is new), and Lue will continue to stubbornly lose with his favorite washed veterans than actually give us a reason to watch these games by playing the young guys.

You need to take a break from your lofty expectations of this team. They lost 2 games to two very good teams. Don't let the Dubs' record fool you. They're resurging again. They've got their rhythm.
Also, they have their entire squads back while we're expecting role players to go and beat these teams. Yeah, losing hurts but stay patient.

Stay patient? Are you ready for more play in games at the end of the season? Our so called depth is only effective when PG & Kawhi plays. When their out for lengthy periods of time -like always- we're just spinning our wheels. No player development, no new tactics, no building towards the future. just making sure the vet role players get their minutes and shots up. That's all we're watching now

Ah don't get swept up by the negativity. You'd like to win every game but 9 guys got 20 minutes or more--in all sorts of new combinations. Ty IS keeping his eye on the big picture. It's too early to coach every game like it's a Game 7.

Unlike last season when Lue could change the offense knowing that Leonard and George were out for weeks and months, he has yet to make sweeping changes this year to an offense tailored to their strengths because he doesn’t expect their stars to be out for the “long term,” he said.

“I feel pretty good about the situation right now and how guys are progressing,” he said.

Lue added that he had confidence in the “great leadership in the locker room, and our coaching staff has great leaders as well, but sometimes it’s just, it is tough to win games when you build your offense around two key guys and they’re out.”

https://news.yahoo.com/three-key-players-clippers-cant-063715173.html

[nickhx2]

While patience is needed, at some point these guys need to play through injuries if they aren't major ones.

They are leaving these guys hanging out to dry busting their asses while the team takes player health (particularly of their 2 stars) so seriously. If they are stuck in the play in again this strategy needs to be questioned.

Or the fans are owed more info regarding how serious these injuries are- it seems like a hangnail could result in a 2 week absence with this training staff.

i agree in some parts. i'd caution against the general idea of playing through injuries, because not all injuries are the same. that said you did qualify that if they aren't major ones, they kinda gotta. in this case they're the kinds you don't play through, so i'm not too eager to see them rushed into action.

[og15]

Clippers are 11-9, all the teams in the West from 2-8 are within 1 game of each other, nothing serious has happened after a no star Clippers team lost to Denver with all their starters but Porter Jr playing.

This teams ultimate performance is dependent on Kawhi and PG, this is no secret, this is the reality for all teams. The team without those two guys should be expected to play at the level of something like a 33-35 win team (last season: Wizards, Lakers, Spurs would be examples). If you add two stars to a 33-35 win team without losing anyone, you have a contender.

We can't really be shocked or disappointed when they lose games to teams with stars and MVP caliber players when those guys are out. I don't "expect" them to lose because they can still compete, but not winning isn't a surprise.

Clippers have injury prone stars, there are only two outcomes, they stay relatively healthy at some point in the season, and we can judge the team, or they don't, and there's no magical coaching or GMing that's going to make up for $85 million in salary being injured. We can't realistically ask for the team to somehow make up for $85 million in salary being out of the lineup.

[og15]

I'm going to have to take a break from this team for a while. This is unwatchable, you just know Kawhi/PG will be out for a while (what else is new), and Lue will continue to stubbornly lose with his favorite washed veterans than actually give us a reason to watch these games by playing the young guys.

You need to take a break from your lofty expectations of this team. They lost 2 games to two very good teams. Don't let the Dubs' record fool you. They're resurging again. They've got their rhythm.
Also, they have their entire squads back while we're expecting role players to go and beat these teams. Yeah, losing hurts but stay patient.

Lofty expectations? We have one of the most expensive teams in basketball, traded years of draft picks, and they barely play together. We're quickly becoming a "what-if" team like the T-Mac/Hill Magic, the T-Mac/Yao Rockets, or the Roy/Oden Blazers. You must have the patience of a saint to not be getting frustrated by this.

If we're going to lose without Kawhi, I would rather lose with guys like BBJ, Preston and Moussa getting as many reps as possible along with Mann/Coffey (who, in fairness to Lue, are getting minutes). Watching our aging veteran role players get blown out just isn't an entertaining product, and at the end of the day, this is supposed to be entertainment.

Team can't do this, doesn't make sense since Kawhi and George aren't ruled out for the season and you're still trying to build and develop the chemistry, consistency and fluidity around the guys who will be your primary rotation players. You don't just start throwing out random youth lineups every time the two stars aren't playing a game, I hope we all know that. I get the frustration, but the frustration is really primarily at Kawhi's body, that's the real issue, all the other stuff is just scapegoats to not complain about Kawhi's body.

[esqtvd]

Clippers are 11-9, all the teams in the West from 2-8 are within 1 game of each other, nothing serious has happened after a no star Clippers team lost to Denver with all their starters but Porter Jr playing.

This teams ultimate performance is dependent on Kawhi and PG, this is no secret, this is the reality for all teams. The team without those two guys should be expected to play at the level of something like a 33-35 win team (last season: Wizards, Lakers, Spurs would be examples). If you add two stars to a 33-35 win team without losing anyone, you have a contender.

We can't really be shocked or disappointed when they lose games to teams with stars and MVP caliber players when those guys are out. I don't "expect" them to lose because they can still compete, but not winning isn't a surprise.

Clippers have injury prone stars, there are only two outcomes, they stay relatively healthy at some point in the season, and we can judge the team, or they don't, and there's no magical coaching or GMing that's going to make up for $85 million in salary being injured. We can't realistically ask for the team to somehow make up for $85 million in salary being out of the lineup.

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[nickhx2]

Clippers are 11-9, all the teams in the West from 2-8 are within 1 game of each other, nothing serious has happened after a no star Clippers team lost to Denver with all their starters but Porter Jr playing.

This teams ultimate performance is dependent on Kawhi and PG, this is no secret, this is the reality for all teams. The team without those two guys should be expected to play at the level of something like a 33-35 win team (last season: Wizards, Lakers, Spurs would be examples). If you add two stars to a 33-35 win team without losing anyone, you have a contender.

We can't really be shocked or disappointed when they lose games to teams with stars and MVP caliber players when those guys are out. I don't "expect" them to lose because they can still compete, but not winning isn't a surprise.

Clippers have injury prone stars, there are only two outcomes, they stay relatively healthy at some point in the season, and we can judge the team, or they don't, and there's no magical coaching or GMing that's going to make up for $85 million in salary being injured. We can't realistically ask for the team to somehow make up for $85 million in salary being out of the lineup.

yeah this is kinda why i'm perplexed at some of the reactions around here. i mean we just lost to a really good team whose best players were better than our best players. and same thing happened with GS. yet here we are with a positive record, still relatively early in the season, with lots and lots of room for growth. is it annoying and sometimes frustrating that the two most important guys aren't playing? yeah, totally. but we're not at a juncture in time where this particular loss, or the previous ones matter that much. and given our record we're in ok shape, specifically because we have plenty of time to get things together.

imo i think some people might be better off marking their calendars as a schedule loss if neither kawhi nor pg are playing and doing something else with their night instead of watching basketball. then they can be pleasantly surprised the next day if they do eke out a win lol