Game #60: GSW @ Clippers Tuesday 2/14 7 PM on TNT

[esqtvd]

Anyone watching the postgame show? Waiiiiiit. Whaaaaaat? Candace’s wife? Isn’t she married with a former NBA player and they have a kid together?

Dude, wife doesn't mean what it did in the 20th century. update your software

Actually, firmware

I stand corrected.

[NickP]

Seeing tonight why I was all in on moving Luke out and Gordon in.

He's a functional ball handler, will shoot the three, can still get to the rack and defends.

Last Chance Dance. Eric Gordon will have cashed in almost $200 million in the NBA [!] and almost all of it has been a misery.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gordoer01.html


In fact the only fun he ever had was here. It was a mercy that HOU let him go.

EJ, Bones and Plumlee are MOTIVATED to be here.

Especially EJ and Plumlee. They were in BB purgatory.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Seeing tonight why I was all in on moving Luke out and Gordon in.

He's a functional ball handler, will shoot the three, can still get to the rack and defends.

Last Chance Dance. Eric Gordon will have cashed in almost $200 million in the NBA [!] and almost all of it has been a misery.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gordoer01.html


In fact the only fun he ever had was here. It was a mercy that HOU let him go.

EJ, Bones and Plumlee are MOTIVATED to be here.

some of the Houston teams were pretty good. He won a 6th man award there

[Scoundreldays]

Starters
Mann
PG
Kawhi
Batum
Plumlee- better

backups
Bones
Powell
Gordon
Covington
Zubac.

oh please, Mann is a placeholder starter and Zu is a Clipper ROCK.

At age 34, Batum is too old to start every night. Some nights he doesn't do shttt at all. We all hate Marcus but he's steadily mediocre lol

But who cares about starters--
Plumlee-Norman-Batum-Kawhi-PG are the closing 5

Gordon-Norman-Batum-Kawhi-PG if we're behind


esqtvd predicts BANK IT

We need the Zu from the beginning of the season. I hope Plumblee playing helps him get back to that. To me he hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

[esqtvd]

Starters
Mann
PG
Kawhi
Batum
Plumlee- better

backups
Bones
Powell
Gordon
Covington
Zubac.

oh please, Mann is a placeholder starter and Zu is a Clipper ROCK.

At age 34, Batum is too old to start every night. Some nights he doesn't do shttt at all. We all hate Marcus but he's steadily mediocre lol

But who cares about starters--
Plumlee-Norman-Batum-Kawhi-PG are the closing 5

Gordon-Norman-Batum-Kawhi-PG if we're behind


esqtvd predicts BANK IT

We need the Zu from the beginning of the season. I hope Plumblee playing helps him get back to that. To me he hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Zu must start and play as many minutes as he's effective. With Reggie gone, Zu is our HEART. If we play small in the 4th, Plumlee can play small. Zu can't. Great balance.

To me Zu hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Yeah. Zu and Reggie played FAR too many minutes in the early season and kept us up in the standings while Kawhi and PG were load managing. Zu and Reggie were our early-season MVPs. Both got EXHAUSTED. Reggie got benched then got dumped and I hope that Zu is not treated so disrespectfully.

[clipperlover]

Gordon gets his deal fully guaranteed next season with a title.

Plumlee has played with some really great players in his career, but never made it to the Finals. He was on the Nuggets WCF team in the bubble.

Both have motivation. At a minimum, Zu can learn some passing from Plumlee.

[NickP]

oh please, Mann is a placeholder starter and Zu is a Clipper ROCK.

At age 34, Batum is too old to start every night. Some nights he doesn't do shttt at all. We all hate Marcus but he's steadily mediocre lol

But who cares about starters--
Plumlee-Norman-Batum-Kawhi-PG are the closing 5

Gordon-Norman-Batum-Kawhi-PG if we're behind


esqtvd predicts BANK IT

We need the Zu from the beginning of the season. I hope Plumblee playing helps him get back to that. To me he hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Zu must start and play as many minutes as he's effective. With Reggie gone, Zu is our HEART. If we play small in the 4th, Plumlee can play small. Zu can't. Great balance.

To me Zu hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Yeah. Zu and Reggie played FAR too many minutes in the early season and kept us up in the standings while Kawhi and PG were load managing. Zu and Reggie were our early-season MVPs. Both got EXHAUSTED. Reggie got benched then got dumped and I hope that Zu is not treated so disrespectfully.

That's why I never felt right dumping on Reggie. Lue misused Reggie so I can't blame Reggie. He gave it his all in that capacity.
I am on the hate Lue bandwagon. I don't know why the moron keeps playing Sr over RoCo.

[PeteyPablo]

Maybe Covington pissed him off once in the past and Ty Lue might be a petty individual. There has to be something deeper than we know about. Covington the AK47 ( previous player for Jazz reference ) for the Clippers. Hustle can not be taken for granted and rot on the bench.

Covington knows it is a privilege to play in the NBA and get paid Millions to play basketball, so he will just enjoy the paychecks and stay ready to play.

[Akklaim1]

I thought PG had a nightmarish game but numbers wise, he wasn’t too bad. 20 points on 6-12 shooting

And last night actually sounded lile a Clipper home game. Remember the KD Warrior teams? Staples was literally Oracle South. That was when their bandwagon was mega super strong.

[Scoundreldays]

We need the Zu from the beginning of the season. I hope Plumblee playing helps him get back to that. To me he hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Zu must start and play as many minutes as he's effective. With Reggie gone, Zu is our HEART. If we play small in the 4th, Plumlee can play small. Zu can't. Great balance.

To me Zu hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Yeah. Zu and Reggie played FAR too many minutes in the early season and kept us up in the standings while Kawhi and PG were load managing. Zu and Reggie were our early-season MVPs. Both got EXHAUSTED. Reggie got benched then got dumped and I hope that Zu is not treated so disrespectfully.

That's why I never felt right dumping on Reggie. Lue misused Reggie so I can't blame Reggie. He gave it his all in that capacity.
I am on the hate Lue bandwagon. I don't know why the moron keeps playing Sr over RoCo.

Agree on Reggie and not playing Roco. I'm over Morris, yes he can get hot from the 3 but what else does he offer?

[madmaxmedia]

Zu must start and play as many minutes as he's effective. With Reggie gone, Zu is our HEART. If we play small in the 4th, Plumlee can play small. Zu can't. Great balance.



Yeah. Zu and Reggie played FAR too many minutes in the early season and kept us up in the standings while Kawhi and PG were load managing. Zu and Reggie were our early-season MVPs. Both got EXHAUSTED. Reggie got benched then got dumped and I hope that Zu is not treated so disrespectfully.

That's why I never felt right dumping on Reggie. Lue misused Reggie so I can't blame Reggie. He gave it his all in that capacity.
I am on the hate Lue bandwagon. I don't know why the moron keeps playing Sr over RoCo.

Agree on Reggie and not playing Roco. I'm over Morris, yes he can get hot from the 3 but what else does he offer?

Marcus is much more versatile offensively than RoCo, and I think a somewhat better 3PT shooter (similar % but capable of higher volume.) He's also a little more stout on interior D. He's worse than RoCo in just about everything else.

But in weighted ranking, scoring the basketball is the most significant skill, that's why Ty plays Marcus more than we'd like (I'm not saying I agree with it.) At the minimum I want to see more RoCo anytime both Kawhi/PG are on the floor, and now that we have 2 real centers maybe we'll have less Marcus as small ball center too.

RoCo was DNP but Marcus only got 23 minutes last night, compared to season average 29 MPG. That's at least one step in the right direction, love him or hate him he is going to be more effective at 20 MPG than 30 MPG.

[Ballings7]

Solid win, and hopefully starts a high ride for this team with "new" vibes and intrigue...

Like I said recently, the dynamic should be different and better on both ends of the floor with more energy and reliability.

The debuts for the new guys went about as expected... good to see

Bones we'll see, but if he plays with some balance and understanding and not have an ego - he'll be fine and stay in the rotation. Obviously if Russ comes in then that limits him than primary backup.

Gordon and Plumlee are utility pros on both ends, and will bring more of the same. Definite expansion and upgrades for this team..

Kawhi continues his strong play and has the three ball going

Covington, he'll be needed come playoff time. Lue playing small too much will be more risky in the playoffs.

[esqtvd]

We need the Zu from the beginning of the season. I hope Plumblee playing helps him get back to that. To me he hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Zu must start and play as many minutes as he's effective. With Reggie gone, Zu is our HEART. If we play small in the 4th, Plumlee can play small. Zu can't. Great balance.

To me Zu hasn't seemed all there since his big game.

Yeah. Zu and Reggie played FAR too many minutes in the early season and kept us up in the standings while Kawhi and PG were load managing. Zu and Reggie were our early-season MVPs. Both got EXHAUSTED. Reggie got benched then got dumped and I hope that Zu is not treated so disrespectfully.

That's why I never felt right dumping on Reggie. Lue misused Reggie so I can't blame Reggie. He gave it his all in that capacity.
I am on the hate Lue bandwagon. I don't know why the moron keeps playing Sr over RoCo.

In fairness to Ty, Reggie no doubt volunteered for extra duty. It's how he rolls.

As for RoCo, I'm still sure his time will come. But before the trade Ty was already saying he needed to winnow the rotation down because there were too many moving parts to build continuity. And if you notice, over the last 15 games Senior is actually [finally!] playing well--2nd on the Clippers in plus/minus behind only Kawhi.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?TeamID=1610612746&dir=A&sort=PLUS_MINUS&LastNGames=15

[nickhx2]

i've been giving lue a ton of crap over the past few weeks (all season, really) for what i believe to be some lineup mismanagement, among other things.

but i do want to give some credit to him for last night because with 3 new guys to integrate, i feel like he did a fairly splendid job. like, 3 new guys, two who are meant to have critical roles, one who probably would have been a coinflip away from continuing the direction of being a malcontent if he wasn't provided any faith, a veteran team that's been slumming it really badly in terms of vitality for the past few weeks - seriously, a ton of moving parts and honestly with the exception of that one weird lineup at the start of the 4th that i didn't like, it felt like every piece felt GOOD and even interchangeable. things just worked!

definitely feel a lot more confident about the rest of the season. great job by all.

[Scoundreldays]

If we move the ball like this each game with the 3 new guys, I don't think we need to go desperation mode and sign Russ. The more I think about it he might be a slightly better version of John Wall on the team with a more volatile personality.

[nickhx2]

If we move the ball like this each game with the 3 new guys, I don't think we need to go desperation mode and sign Russ. The more I think about it he might be a slightly better version of John Wall on the team with a more volatile personality.

agree with first parts. in terms of westbrook, i think he'd actually be worse than wall because he has a penchant to play hero and make some INCREDIBLY dumb plays in critical moments. but perhaps even worse, i think lue would feel obligated to give him so much court time to feel him out that it could very well hurt us given we don't have all that much season left, and every game from here on out is so important.

[madmaxmedia]

If we move the ball like this each game with the 3 new guys, I don't think we need to go desperation mode and sign Russ. The more I think about it he might be a slightly better version of John Wall on the team with a more volatile personality.

It appears Russ and the Jazz are in no hurry for a buy out and will wait until after ASB, which is great for us. The more time we have to evaluate Bones before making any decision, the better.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065773-shams-russell-westbrook-buyout-market-slow-moving-no-traction-with-clippers

[nickhx2]

If we move the ball like this each game with the 3 new guys, I don't think we need to go desperation mode and sign Russ. The more I think about it he might be a slightly better version of John Wall on the team with a more volatile personality.

It appears Russ and the Jazz are in no hurry for a buy out and will wait until after ASB, which is great for us. The more time we have to evaluate Bones before making any decision, the better.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065773-shams-russell-westbrook-buyout-market-slow-moving-no-traction-with-clippers

per the article:

"As he ages, the 34-year-old can't as easily offset his inability to space the floor with his mid-range game and drives to the basket. Per Basketball Reference, he's shooting 33.3 percent between three and 10 feet from the basket and just 28.8 percent between 16 feet and the three-point arc."

yeesh, even worse than i thought. glad the report has the team as even more skeptical than i had been thinking.