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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#41 » by og15 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 6:37 pm

Decipher wrote:Guys, Simmons isn’t a 5 and never has been

Just let him roam

Have a look at the Nets stats this season

Simmons is SLOWLY getting back to fitness and they have a real coach

We had to stop playing him because we were too competitive when he took the floor with real NBA players

My prediction is that the Clippers make at least the 2nd round

The idea to play him at the 5 has nothing to do with traditional roles, but simply that he would be the biggest guy on the court.

NickP wrote:Looks like Ben is still good at one thing we need the most. Ball handling and distributing. If he can give us some real meaningful minutes I'll count that as a win.
Basically. He won't score, and he will overpass, but 10.0 ast/36, can defend, will grab some boards and he will push the ball.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#42 » by NickP » Sun Feb 9, 2025 8:27 pm

og15 wrote:
Decipher wrote:Guys, Simmons isn’t a 5 and never has been

Just let him roam

Have a look at the Nets stats this season

Simmons is SLOWLY getting back to fitness and they have a real coach

We had to stop playing him because we were too competitive when he took the floor with real NBA players

My prediction is that the Clippers make at least the 2nd round

The idea to play him at the 5 has nothing to do with traditional roles, but simply that he would be the biggest guy on the court.

NickP wrote:Looks like Ben is still good at one thing we need the most. Ball handling and distributing. If he can give us some real meaningful minutes I'll count that as a win.
Basically. He won't score, and he will overpass, but 10.0 ast/36, can defend, will grab some boards and he will push the ball.


Amen. That's all I'm hoping for.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#45 » by Clemenza » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:36 am

Well, we gotta root for him. Let's go!
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Re: Ben Simmons 

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Post#47 » by esqtvd » Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:18 am

court sense and vision are off the scale


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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#48 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:22 am

It's a shame he never developed any semblance of a jump shot- otherwise he would be a top talent in the NBA
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#49 » by Decipher » Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:08 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:It's a shame he never developed any semblance of a jump shot- otherwise he would be a top talent in the NBA


Guy is a top talent with a back of tissue paper

IF (and it’s probably the biggest “IF” in sports), he and Kawhi stay healthy, the team could be very good
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#50 » by esqtvd » Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:26 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:It's a shame he never developed any semblance of a jump shot- otherwise he would be a top talent in the NBA


3x All-Star with no jump shot
ROY
runner-up DPOY, led the NBA in steals
and the assists are off the hook


This is elite talent. On a deeper dive, found an interesting stat--acc to BBReference, only 50-60% of his shots are at the rim--he can and does hit about 40-45% from 3-10 feet. In fact, he's been getting to prefer it lately. So he's not the CHUD we thought just clogging the lane. He's adapting his game to his mental and emotional comfort level.

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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#51 » by Ballings7 » Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:22 pm

Really could be a positive situation with Ben on both sides that lasts awhile. This team needs that.

Really looking forward to see the new look Clips post-AS break rest and practice.

Got Doc and the Bucks next, 2/20 Thurs. Reunion with KPJ and Doc again. Be neat to see how Ben plays there.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#52 » by DebVolleyball » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:22 pm

I love watching Ben Simmons, he feeds the ball so perfectly to 3-point-shooters especially, he's got the best court vision in the NBA and his hands are full of finesse :love: smoothest dribbles too.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#53 » by TrueLAfan » Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:08 pm

The big question with Simmons, IMO, actually isn't his mental situation and prep. It's health. When Simmons plays, even now with a (far) more limited offensive game, he's still very, very effective. He's a glue guy. Rebounds like a PF or C, passes like a (good) PG, doesn't make mistakes with the ball, His TS% is actually pretty good because he doesn't even try shots he doesn't think he can make. Even with his drop in quicks, he can stay with a lot of SFs, and pretty much all PFs and Cs and he's a top notch defender. It's all good.

When he plays.

He's played 92 out of the last 300 games. He played in less than 60 games in the two years before that. I always think about this. Kawhi--another example of this--is still a world class, top 5-10 player. When he plays. His ability and skill and floor raising don't mean a damn thing if he's not on the court though. and he misses a lot of games. And consider--Kawhi has still played in 135 of the last 300 games. Like Simmons, he missed a full season. But Kawhi still plays a lot more than Ben. A lot more.

So my concern with Simmons isn't really his ability, or how much he can help, or even his mental state. It's availability. He can be good or great. He can be mediocre or poor. If he's not playing, it doesn't matter. We're going to find out pretty quick about his durability, IMO--and that's the big, big question
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#54 » by LamarWho » Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:59 am

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Post#55 » by esqtvd » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:34 am

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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#56 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:35 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#57 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:38 pm

TrueLAfan wrote:The big question with Simmons, IMO, actually isn't his mental situation and prep. It's health. When Simmons plays, even now with a (far) more limited offensive game, he's still very, very effective. He's a glue guy. Rebounds like a PF or C, passes like a (good) PG, doesn't make mistakes with the ball, His TS% is actually pretty good because he doesn't even try shots he doesn't think he can make. Even with his drop in quicks, he can stay with a lot of SFs, and pretty much all PFs and Cs and he's a top notch defender. It's all good.

When he plays.

He's played 92 out of the last 300 games. He played in less than 60 games in the two years before that. I always think about this. Kawhi--another example of this--is still a world class, top 5-10 player. When he plays. His ability and skill and floor raising don't mean a damn thing if he's not on the court though. and he misses a lot of games. And consider--Kawhi has still played in 135 of the last 300 games. Like Simmons, he missed a full season. But Kawhi still plays a lot more than Ben. A lot more.

So my concern with Simmons isn't really his ability, or how much he can help, or even his mental state. It's availability. He can be good or great. He can be mediocre or poor. If he's not playing, it doesn't matter. We're going to find out pretty quick about his durability, IMO--and that's the big, big question


My hope with these midseason vet acquisitions is always that these guys can stay fresher and healthier longer with less minutes. But unlike some of the other guys that popped a bit for us at first and the faded, Ben is still pretty young. Fingers crossed he'll at least be healthy at the start of the playoffs.

He is a walking PER36 triple-double for us 8-).
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#58 » by Decipher » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:55 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
TrueLAfan wrote:The big question with Simmons, IMO, actually isn't his mental situation and prep. It's health. When Simmons plays, even now with a (far) more limited offensive game, he's still very, very effective. He's a glue guy. Rebounds like a PF or C, passes like a (good) PG, doesn't make mistakes with the ball, His TS% is actually pretty good because he doesn't even try shots he doesn't think he can make. Even with his drop in quicks, he can stay with a lot of SFs, and pretty much all PFs and Cs and he's a top notch defender. It's all good.

When he plays.

He's played 92 out of the last 300 games. He played in less than 60 games in the two years before that. I always think about this. Kawhi--another example of this--is still a world class, top 5-10 player. When he plays. His ability and skill and floor raising don't mean a damn thing if he's not on the court though. and he misses a lot of games. And consider--Kawhi has still played in 135 of the last 300 games. Like Simmons, he missed a full season. But Kawhi still plays a lot more than Ben. A lot more.

So my concern with Simmons isn't really his ability, or how much he can help, or even his mental state. It's availability. He can be good or great. He can be mediocre or poor. If he's not playing, it doesn't matter. We're going to find out pretty quick about his durability, IMO--and that's the big, big question


My hope with these midseason vet acquisitions is always that these guys can stay fresher and healthier longer with less minutes. But unlike some of the other guys that popped a bit for us at first and the faded, Ben is still pretty young. Fingers crossed he'll at least be healthy at the start of the playoffs.

He is a walking PER36 triple-double for us 8-).


“Freshness” isn’t the issue with him

It’s quite simply whether his back holds up
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#59 » by Bobbymcgee » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:46 pm

Clippers' Ben Simmons opens up on private battle with injuries amid constant criticism: https://clutchpoints.com/nba/los-angeles-clippers/clippers-news-ben-simmons-opens-up-private-battle-injuries-amid-constant-criticism

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