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GAME #79: ROCKETS (52-27) @ LAC (47-32)—WED 4/9 7:30 PM

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Re: GAME #79: ROCKETS (52-27) @ LAC (47-32)—WED 4/9 7:30 PM 

Post#21 » by _NoMas » Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:19 pm

clipperlover wrote:If my mother is correct, we are no worse than 6th with 1 more win. They win Friday and they can rest on Sunday if they don't care about match-up.

If Denver loses to Memphis and we win in Sac, then they go all out for the 4. If Denver wins vs Memphis and we win2, then we probably rest key guys on Sunday. They can end up in 5th winning or losing.


Beat GS and clips are guaranteed top 6. I think there is one scenario where the clippers beat SAC, lose to GS and don’t make top 6.

Wolves win all 3 (vs Grizz, Nets, Jazz) - 49 wins
Clips beat Sac lose to GS - 49 wins
Warriors win out - 49 wins
Griz lose to Wolves and Denver - 48 wins
Denver win out - 50 wins

LAC loses tiebreaker to GS and Wolves in that scenario, so would finish 7th.
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Re: GAME #79: ROCKETS (52-27) @ LAC (47-32)—WED 4/9 7:30 PM 

Post#22 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:13 pm

Considering how many guys Rockets were resting it wasn’t a great showing by us, but it was a good watch in person. We kept letting them back, but always went on a spurt before it ever got really nervous. Plus we comfortably won a game in which the opponent shot over 50% from 3 is pretty good. Crowd was pretty good, everyone knew when Zu needed one more assist and was waiting for it to happen. The handoff to Bogey and quick shot was such an obvious attempt and awesome.

Eubanks in person looks even worse, I guess he does try to play the right way, vs. Bamba who has a great NBA body with no useful skills.
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Re: GAME #79: ROCKETS (52-27) @ LAC (47-32)—WED 4/9 7:30 PM 

Post#23 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:41 pm

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clipperlover wrote:If my mother is correct, we are no worse than 6th with 1 more win. They win Friday and they can rest on Sunday if they don't care about match-up.

If Denver loses to Memphis and we win in Sac, then they go all out for the 4. If Denver wins vs Memphis and we win2, then we probably rest key guys on Sunday. They can end up in 5th winning or losing.


Beat GS and clips are guaranteed top 6. I think there is one scenario where the clippers beat SAC, lose to GS and don’t make top 6.

Wolves win all 3 (vs Grizz, Nets, Jazz) - 49 wins
Clips beat Sac lose to GS - 49 wins
Warriors win out - 49 wins
Griz lose to Wolves and Denver - 48 wins
Denver win out - 50 wins

LAC loses tiebreaker to GS and Wolves in that scenario, so would finish 7th.


Viewed from a position of strength (we win out), we actually wanted GSW to win last night and we want Memphis to beat the Wolves tonight, because we want them in any tie situation. They pushed us over Denver in the 4 team tie, not sure what happens in a 3 team tie if Memphis wins tonight.

OTOH if we lose at least 1 of our last 2 games, then GSW losing was good.

Man it would have really helped (in multiple ways) if we had just tied the Lakers 2-2 this year instead of losing the season series 3-1...
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Re: GAME #79: ROCKETS (52-27) @ LAC (47-32)—WED 4/9 7:30 PM 

Post#24 » by donemilio21 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:42 pm

we hold the 2-way tiebreakers against Warriors and Memphis. Lakers and Wolves hold tiebreakers against us.
These will not change regardless of what happens in last 2 games.

We are tied with Nuggets (2-2). Tiebreaker will come down to division and conference record. Only way we'll have the tiebreaker against them is if we win next two games against Kings and Warriors since they have a better conference record then us which won't change, and we are tied in division record, but they don't have any more division games.

3-way tiebreakers are gonna very interesting, and can change the whole thing depending on what happens in Memphis-Minnesota and Memphis-Denver games tonight and tomorrow.

Lakers need to win 1 game to secure 3rd seed. If they lose two and we win two, we'll actually get the 3rd seed.
If we win both games, we should finish 3-5. If we go 1-1, we'll get 4-7, if we go 0-2 we'll get 6-8. Insane that we can finish anywhere from 3rd to 8th with 2 games left.
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Post#25 » by Roscoe Sheed » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:56 pm

clipperlover wrote:If my mother is correct, we are no worse than 6th with 1 more win. They win Friday and they can rest on Sunday if they don't care about match-up.

If Denver loses to Memphis and we win in Sac, then they go all out for the 4. If Denver wins vs Memphis and we win2, then we probably rest key guys on Sunday. They can end up in 5th winning or losing.

I would prefer to avoid the Lakers as it will be so annoying to have 90% of the city rooting against the Clippers. Would be nice though if they could somehow pull off the upset, but I would expect Luka to average 35 ppg with a triple double, LeBron to find the fountain of youth, Reaves to look like Manu and the refs to give them every call- so I'd prefer anybody but the Lakers.
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Post#26 » by Clemenza » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:56 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:Considering how many guys Rockets were resting it wasn’t a great showing by us, but it was a good watch in person. We kept letting them back, but always went on a spurt before it ever got really nervous. Plus we comfortably won a game in which the opponent shot over 50% from 3 is pretty good. Crowd was pretty good, everyone knew when Zu needed one more assist and was waiting for it to happen. The handoff to Bogey and quick shot was such an obvious attempt and awesome.

Eubanks in person looks even worse, I guess he does try to play the right way, vs. Bamba who has a great NBA body with no useful skills.

I was at the game as well. $20 dollar street parking finally available so Intuit Dome is rocking now! Kawhi, Harden, and Triple-double Zu balled out. Dunn finally knocking down some threes and DJJ playing well and always overcoming his nightly groin/rib injury. Bogdan was good. Saw some good Kobe Brown minutes on top of it all when a hot shooting Batum got injured. He might get some run in Sac & SF. Can he build from this showing it's the question. Yeah, Eubanks looked awful out there last night.

I'm wondering can we get Cam Whitmore or Shepard from Houston. Both first round picks, Shepard was even a lottery pick. Houston has no minutes for them at all. Plus I believe they have two first rounders in this upcoming draft, maybe even a lotto pick as they have the Suns pick. They won't be able to play and develop a lot of theses kids. OKC and numerous other teams are in the same predicament. First round talent with upside will start getting waived & released next season with too many teams already stacked with their cores in place but still have a million picks waste. That's where we come in and scoop some of them up.
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Post#27 » by Roscoe Sheed » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:59 pm

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clipperlover wrote:If my mother is correct, we are no worse than 6th with 1 more win. They win Friday and they can rest on Sunday if they don't care about match-up.

If Denver loses to Memphis and we win in Sac, then they go all out for the 4. If Denver wins vs Memphis and we win2, then we probably rest key guys on Sunday. They can end up in 5th winning or losing.


Beat GS and clips are guaranteed top 6. I think there is one scenario where the clippers beat SAC, lose to GS and don’t make top 6.

Wolves win all 3 (vs Grizz, Nets, Jazz) - 49 wins
Clips beat Sac lose to GS - 49 wins
Warriors win out - 49 wins
Griz lose to Wolves and Denver - 48 wins
Denver win out - 50 wins

LAC loses tiebreaker to GS and Wolves in that scenario, so would finish 7th.


Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times
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Post#28 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:07 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:
_NoMas wrote:
clipperlover wrote:If my mother is correct, we are no worse than 6th with 1 more win. They win Friday and they can rest on Sunday if they don't care about match-up.

If Denver loses to Memphis and we win in Sac, then they go all out for the 4. If Denver wins vs Memphis and we win2, then we probably rest key guys on Sunday. They can end up in 5th winning or losing.


Beat GS and clips are guaranteed top 6. I think there is one scenario where the clippers beat SAC, lose to GS and don’t make top 6.

Wolves win all 3 (vs Grizz, Nets, Jazz) - 49 wins
Clips beat Sac lose to GS - 49 wins
Warriors win out - 49 wins
Griz lose to Wolves and Denver - 48 wins
Denver win out - 50 wins

LAC loses tiebreaker to GS and Wolves in that scenario, so would finish 7th.


Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times


It’s different if we are tied with both GSW and Wolves though, it’s then H2H within the group. We went 0-3 against Wolves.
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Post#29 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Apr 10, 2025 6:27 pm

Clemenza wrote:I'm wondering can we get Cam Whitmore or Shepard from Houston. Both first round picks, Shepard was even a lottery pick. Houston has no minutes for them at all. Plus I believe they have two first rounders in this upcoming draft, maybe even a lotto pick as they have the Suns pick. They won't be able to play and develop a lot of theses kids. OKC and numerous other teams are in the same predicament. First round talent with upside will start getting waived & released next season with too many teams already stacked with their cores in place but still have a million picks waste. That's where we come in and scoop some of them up.


That would be really interesting if they were to become available. Both those guys played well last night, Whitmore definitely has some juice. Here's a pretty good vid on him, the good and the bad. I wonder if coaching and some vet influence can help him develop into a better NBA player-



Man, just saw Sheppard's stats for the year. Not much PT at all for the 3rd pick in the draft.
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Post#30 » by Ballings7 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:52 pm

Not a bad win. Kawhi looks amazing. Whats interesting about this team is that they are totally different from the 1st half of the year, in terms of offensive flexibility and depth.

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madmaxmedia wrote:Considering how many guys Rockets were resting it wasn’t a great showing by us, but it was a good watch in person. We kept letting them back, but always went on a spurt before it ever got really nervous. Plus we comfortably won a game in which the opponent shot over 50% from 3 is pretty good. Crowd was pretty good, everyone knew when Zu needed one more assist and was waiting for it to happen. The handoff to Bogey and quick shot was such an obvious attempt and awesome.

Eubanks in person looks even worse, I guess he does try to play the right way, vs. Bamba who has a great NBA body with no useful skills.

I was at the game as well. $20 dollar street parking finally available so Intuit Dome is rocking now! Kawhi, Harden, and Triple-double Zu balled out. Dunn finally knocking down some threes and DJJ playing well and always overcoming his nightly groin/rib injury. Bogdan was good. Saw some good Kobe Brown minutes on top of it all when a hot shooting Batum got injured. He might get some run in Sac & SF. Can he build from this showing it's the question. Yeah, Eubanks looked awful out there last night.

I'm wondering can we get Cam Whitmore or Shepard from Houston. Both first round picks, Shepard was even a lottery pick. Houston has no minutes for them at all. Plus I believe they have two first rounders in this upcoming draft, maybe even a lotto pick as they have the Suns pick. They won't be able to play and develop a lot of theses kids. OKC and numerous other teams are in the same predicament. First round talent with upside will start getting waived & released next season with too many teams already stacked with their cores in place but still have a million picks waste. That's where we come in and scoop some of them up.


I really like both Sheppard and Whitmore. Either would be a great get for this team if someone leaves in the rotation.
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Post#31 » by Roscoe Sheed » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:55 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:
_NoMas wrote:
Beat GS and clips are guaranteed top 6. I think there is one scenario where the clippers beat SAC, lose to GS and don’t make top 6.

Wolves win all 3 (vs Grizz, Nets, Jazz) - 49 wins
Clips beat Sac lose to GS - 49 wins
Warriors win out - 49 wins
Griz lose to Wolves and Denver - 48 wins
Denver win out - 50 wins

LAC loses tiebreaker to GS and Wolves in that scenario, so would finish 7th.


Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times


It’s different if we are tied with both GSW and Wolves though, it’s then H2H within the group. We went 0-3 against Wolves.


that sucks- I guess we should all be pulling for Memphis tonight against Minnesota
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Post#32 » by clipperlover » Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:19 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:
_NoMas wrote:
Beat GS and clips are guaranteed top 6. I think there is one scenario where the clippers beat SAC, lose to GS and don’t make top 6.

Wolves win all 3 (vs Grizz, Nets, Jazz) - 49 wins
Clips beat Sac lose to GS - 49 wins
Warriors win out - 49 wins
Griz lose to Wolves and Denver - 48 wins
Denver win out - 50 wins

LAC loses tiebreaker to GS and Wolves in that scenario, so would finish 7th.


Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times


It’s different if we are tied with both GSW and Wolves though, it’s then H2H within the group. We went 0-3 against Wolves.


If there is a multi-team tie breaker, then first order is to use the H2H amongst the group. Once that team is selected, the tie breaker process starts over with the remaining teams.

There is no situation where we end end up falling below GS if we win 1 more.
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Post#33 » by _NoMas » Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:03 am

clipperlover wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:
Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times


It’s different if we are tied with both GSW and Wolves though, it’s then H2H within the group. We went 0-3 against Wolves.


If there is a multi-team tie breaker, then first order is to use the H2H amongst the group. Once that team is selected, the tie breaker process starts over with the remaining teams.

There is no situation where we end end up falling below GS if we win 1 more.


Ahh I wasn’t aware of that. So in a three team tie between t wolves, clippers and warriors, T wolves would get the higher seed because of combined head to head record, and then to settle the seed between clippers and warriors would go back to their individual head to head, discarding their results against the Twolves?
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Post#34 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:23 pm

clipperlover wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:
Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times


It’s different if we are tied with both GSW and Wolves though, it’s then H2H within the group. We went 0-3 against Wolves.


If there is a multi-team tie breaker, then first order is to use the H2H amongst the group. Once that team is selected, the tie breaker process starts over with the remaining teams.

There is no situation where we end end up falling below GS if we win 1 more.


We cannot lose a 2 team tiebreaker with GSW. However, isn't it possible that GSW could still win a group tiebreaker over us? There could be say a 4 team tie in which their overall H2H record in the group is better than ours. And then as you say if they are first, the tie breaker process repeats with the remaining teams.

I'm only roughly aware of the various H2H records, maybe you already took that into account.
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Post#35 » by _NoMas » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:13 pm

clipperlover wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:
Clippers can't lose the tie-breaker to GSW as they have already beat them 3 times


It’s different if we are tied with both GSW and Wolves though, it’s then H2H within the group. We went 0-3 against Wolves.


If there is a multi-team tie breaker, then first order is to use the H2H amongst the group. Once that team is selected, the tie breaker process starts over with the remaining teams.

There is no situation where we end end up falling below GS if we win 1 more.


Been looking all over for a clarification on this and I don’t think it’s accurate. Fairly sure clippers would be the 7 seed in a 3 way tie with Twolves and GS

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