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What Players To Pursue This Summer

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Which of these guys do you want wearing a Clippers uniform next season?

Poll ended at Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:51 pm

Kirk Hinrich
2
9%
Ben Gordon
1
5%
Carmelo Anthony
1
5%
Baron Davis
8
36%
Shane Battier
1
5%
Michael Redd
0
No votes
Allen Iverson
1
5%
TJ Ford
4
18%
Gilbert Arenas
4
18%
Mike Miller
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 22

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Post#21 » by jgustav1 » Fri May 16, 2008 12:40 am

loflin3hree5ive wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I've suggested we do Maggette, Thomas, Knight & #6 and a future 1st for Davis, Azubuike & #14. That seems like the only way Golden State can get fair value for Davis and the Clippers can keep some of their depth.


Two fairly high lottery picks and Maggette is too much for the Clippers to pay for Baron Davis, Azubuike and the #14 pick in this draft.
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Re: Who the clips need! 

Post#22 » by illastrate » Fri May 16, 2008 5:06 pm

jgustav1 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Two fairly high lottery picks and Maggette is too much for the Clippers to pay for Baron Davis, Azubuike and the #14 pick in this draft.


I think it's a little too much also. Take out the draft picks and throw in Mobley. They can keep their #14 pick.
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Post#23 » by mj_shoefanatic » Fri May 16, 2008 6:37 pm

Azu and Baron would be a perfect fit for this team. BTW I'd like to see hometown heroes B-Diddy or Agent Zero suit up for our team in 08/09. We really need to put another legit all-star next to EB.
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Post#24 » by loflin3hree5ive » Fri May 16, 2008 8:58 pm

Maggette + Thomas + Mobley won't get it done.
Thomas + Mobley + Knight + #6 might work but would leave the Clippers with a very thin bench which is why I proposed:

Thomas + Maggette + Knight + #6 + future pick for Davis + #14 + Azubuike.

#14 can land an upper-classman rookie who is ready to contribute right away like we got in Al last year. Trading a future pick (who says the future pick is going to be in the lottery?) is worth a team of:

Kaman
Brand
Thornton
Mobley
Davis
Azubuike
Ross
Augustin?
Powell
MLE Free Agent
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Post#25 » by jgustav1 » Sat May 17, 2008 12:10 am

loflin3hree5ive wrote:Maggette + Thomas + Mobley won't get it done.
Thomas + Mobley + Knight + #6 might work but would leave the Clippers with a very thin bench which is why I proposed:

Thomas + Maggette + Knight + #6 + future pick for Davis + #14 + Azubuike.

#14 can land an upper-classman rookie who is ready to contribute right away like we got in Al last year. Trading a future pick (who says the future pick is going to be in the lottery?) is worth a team of:

Kaman
Brand
Thornton
Mobley
Davis
Azubuike
Ross
Augustin?
Powell
MLE Free Agent


Trading within the division isn't a good option, particularly when you are including Maggette, #6 pick and a future #1 with Brand in the last year of his contract. You could try to lottery protect the future #1 for a couple of years but why throw that into the trade in the first place?

The Clippers would be better off trying to put together a package including Maggette for Calderon than mortgaging their future going after Baron Davis with this type of trade.
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Post#26 » by loflin3hree5ive » Sat May 17, 2008 2:40 am

Calderon isn't going to come much cheaper. Besides, with our force of a front court, we need a back court that can shoot and make teams pay for packing it in against our bigs. Calderon isn't going to spread the floor like we need.
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Post#27 » by illastrate » Sat May 17, 2008 5:54 am

loflin3hree5ive wrote:Calderon isn't going to come much cheaper. Besides, with our force of a front court, we need a back court that can shoot and make teams pay for packing it in against our bigs. Calderon isn't going to spread the floor like we need.


Calderon shot 52% FG and 43% 3FG. That's pretty damn good. Let's get him.
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Post#28 » by loflin3hree5ive » Sat May 17, 2008 1:53 pm

illastrate wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Calderon shot 52% FG and 43% 3FG. That's pretty damn good. Let's get him.


Jose's percentage is that high because Calderon gets to the basket and actually would allow defenses to cram into the paint even more. Even the most deadly perimeter threats can't shoot at 50%.

I'll admit I wasn't aware Calderon shot such a good percentage from three. However, Calderon only had a handful more three pointers than our Cuttino Mobley. Personally, I'd like Davis because although his percentage isn't as high, he would probably double the amount of threes the Clippers make as a team next year. That is the kind of balance and impact I'm looking for.

But... as good as a three point threat would be, if Calderon can make plays off the pick and roll, I think he can make a lot of things happen on offense and break down opposing defenses.
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Post#29 » by jgustav1 » Sat May 17, 2008 4:24 pm

The last thing I want to see is Baron Davis jacking up 500+ 3 point attempts for the Clippers next year. The guy is a 32.5% 3 point shooter in his career.

Illastrate is right, we need to target Calderon using Maggette. He put up his outstanding shooting stats while starting 56 games and playing over 30 mpg on the season. The guy averaged 8.3 apg and had better than a 4/1 assist to turnover ratio.
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Post#30 » by loflin3hree5ive » Sat May 17, 2008 4:47 pm

Baron can jack all the 3's he wants if it means it will keep defenses honest. We need to create space for Brand/Kaman. And imagine the looks Brand and Davis would get off the P&R. That duo would be deadly.

Also, with much less pressure on Baron on offense if he had Brand on his side, I'm pretty confident Davis' shot selection would improve dramatically. He wouldn't need to force things like he constantly had to do in Oakland. Baron has never played with a big man anywhere close to the offensive force Elton is. They would make life much easier for each other.
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Post#31 » by Hype97 » Sat May 17, 2008 9:29 pm

I wonder if we can target Calderon and Kapono? Maybe throw in a pick swap and TT to make it work?

Anyways, I voted for Arenas. He has to be the clear cut number one. After that, Bdiddy, Calderon, Hinrich, Mike Miller and maybe even BG or Redd would be acceptable upgrades.... :pray:
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Post#32 » by loflin3hree5ive » Sat May 17, 2008 9:31 pm

Welcome Hype. You've got good taste in players. My Clippers wishlist is almost identical to yours.
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Post#33 » by Hype97 » Sat May 17, 2008 11:34 pm

loflin3hree5ive wrote:Welcome Hype. You've got good taste in players. My Clippers wishlist is almost identical to yours.


Thanks loflin.

What about Barbosa? I think he should of got a spot on this list. I would love to bring him on board and wasn't he supposed to be available?
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Post#34 » by jgustav1 » Sun May 18, 2008 12:41 am

I've heard D'Antoni wants to bring Barbosa to NY, but I can't see why the Suns would trade him there or trade him period, given his contract and the way he fills the 6th man role in Phoenix.

A little bit surprised that Baron Davis is leading the vote, I voted for Arenas but probably would have voted for Calderon had he been added to the list. Most Warrior fans don't want to have much to do with BD at this point if you check out the GS board.
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Post#35 » by StephenLynchfan » Tue May 20, 2008 4:12 am

The Davis/Brand pick & roll would rival Dwill/Boozer imo. It would probably be more pick & pop than pick & roll with Kamen clogging up the middle but still EB has good range on his jumper. The only concern I would have with those two guys would be injuries though cause I doubt Elton would opt out with Bdiddy beside him.

Either way the clips should have a 45-50 win team if everyone is healthy and they draft well which is a big if. :pray:

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