EB still mulling over Warriors' offer

[NiteOwl]

Brand just put his house in LA back on the market - not sure if that is foreshawdowing or not, but at least another piece of the puzzle.

[Jordan45822]

Brand still owns more property in LA so I don't see the point of saying automatically he is leaving.

[St.Nick]

Yeah, but the house he put on the market is the $5M one. Apparently he owns another place but its only a "small" one worth $1.7M.

Interesting time to be putting your house on the market....

[Sid the Squid]

Read the paragraph below EB's picture

http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/

[deNIEd]

Again, hypothetically if it is the case, that an Artest for TT/Al trade would have Brand be back, (suppose all parties are agreeing to the deal/situations) do you think the Clippers would do it?

I just want to see the Clippers be better than Lakers

[GuyverX]

Read the paragraph below EB's picture

http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/

He had that house up for sale 2 years ago too...when the Clippers were 1 win away from the WCF.

[Sid the Squid]

Philly coming on with a late push for Brand...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3477358

[GuyverX]

I'm just going to be so relieved when Brand signs on that dotted line with the Clippers after the salary cap is set and then all of these rumors of Golden State, Philly and Brand's freaking real estate will be laid to rest.

[mkwest]

I'm just going to be so relieved when Brand signs on that dotted line with the Clippers after the salary cap is set and then all of these rumors of Golden State, Philly and Brand's freaking real estate will be laid to rest.

Me too. I'm optimistic about it all but I'll definitely be able to rest easier when both Brand & Davis are both officially signed. He may be selling his home to find a place that is more family friendly since he and the missus do have a baby on the way. I'm assuming we should know by the end of the night.

[Chris Cohan]

I'm curious about the Clippers leaking stories about not renouncing players to match.
Seems unnecessary unless they're still working on the collusion cover-up.

[Tucker74]

You mean the leak reported in a Bay Area paper and not in any LA-based paper?

[Chris Cohan]

Right, the LA papers are still recycling Baron's nervous pitch to Brand with the headline about Baron's confidence Brand will return.

And Plaschke's moral play.

[ClipperDomination]

Uh-oh...

Philadelphia 76ers forwards Rodney Carney, Calvin Booth and a future No. 1 pick have been traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves to free as much as $2 million in additional salary cap space for the Sixers to offer Elton Brand or Josh Smith, multiple league sources said.

Minnesota sends Philadelphia its $2.8 million trade exception from a 2007 deal of Mark Blount to the Miami Heat.

From Yahoo Sports.

This allows Philly to offer around $15 million to Brand in his first year.

[loflin3hree5ive]

I'm curious about the Clippers leaking stories about not renouncing players to match.
Seems unnecessary unless they're still working on the collusion cover-up.

The only collusion cover-up that's happening right now is the Warriors attempts to soften the blow of getting burned by Baron Davis. I can't believe a Warriors fan has the nerve to talk about scrambling when losing your franchise player. I can tolerate your trolling for now, because I know your bubble is about to be burst in the very near future. Philly just passed you in the Josh Smith sweepstakes BTW.

[Chris Cohan]

I'm not really challenged by your description of the Davis issue and I don't believe I'm trolling, but I can certainly tone down my retorts to your posters if you're concerned by what I wrote above and want to control my voice here a bit. I understand that urge. But we hosted you and your forum members very openly in Warriorland last week, I thought, so I hope we'll receive the same courtesy here.

The Warriors are thrilled, from the board room to the longterm lower bowl season ticket holders (a group I am a member of), by the Davis opt-out, and the immediate response to Baron's fool agent was dead silence because Baron had been given the final offer he would receive. Last year.

There is some concern about outlying revenue areas but nothing terribly urgent since season ticket deposits are in, and at record numbers (again), Don Nelson remains under contract, and Ellis is still a Warrior and his jersey has been a top seller since before the Davis news broke. The competitive element is of course of concern, but Ellis and Biedrins were in fact the most efficient players all last year, Ellis by far the most productive, and Jackson is still a Warrior after receiving strong All Star consideration and leaguewide consensus declared him the most important Warrior player much of the season (we went 0-6 without him to start the season). Having said that, he may want out now and the Warriors may be more than willing to rebuild around youth right now anyway.

Josh Smith is not a player of public interest at his rumored rates, though you know the Warriors and no news...

[GuyverX]

The Warriors are thrilled, from the board room to the longterm lower bowl season ticket holders (a group I am a member of), by the Davis opt-out, and the immediate response to Baron's fool agent was dead silence because Baron had been given the final offer he would receive. Last year.

There's seems to be a lot of hostility toward Davis and the Clippers even though you say Warriors fans are "thrilled" by the sudden Davis opt-out. It kind of makes you wonder...I think a lot of you are just hiding your wounds by saying everything is fine when really your franchise has just taken a major hit by losing your best player (Ellis is not at Davis' level yet). Now the Warriors are scrambling to win the Elton Brand bidding war. If that doesn't work out, you basically lost Davis for nothing but nice cap space. But who are the Warriors going to pay? Wait until '09-'10?

[marthafokker]

The Warriors are thrilled, from the board room to the longterm lower bowl season ticket holders (a group I am a member of), by the Davis opt-out, and the immediate response to Baron's fool agent was dead silence because Baron had been given the final offer he would receive. Last year.

There's seems to be a lot of hostility toward Davis and the Clippers even though you say Warriors fans are "thrilled" by the sudden Davis opt-out. It kind of makes you wonder...I think a lot of you are just hiding your wounds by saying everything is fine when really your franchise has just taken a major hit by losing your best player (Ellis is not at Davis' level yet). Now the Warriors are scrambling to win the Elton Brand bidding war. If that doesn't work out, you basically lost Davis for nothing but nice cap space. But who are the Warriors going to pay? Wait until '09-'10?

Davis' birthday party and his hangover was the last straw for Warriors fans and Nellie. If a 'franchise player' cares more about his all night long birthday party than fighting for a playoff spot (with a very important game against Denver), then... yes... Warriors' fans love the opt-out Baron did.

[Chris Cohan]

No, a few are really upset by it and calling the season lost already. Take a close look at our forum and you'll see plenty of concern. As for hostitlity toward the Clippers, perhaps you're referring to the activity in our forum as Clippers fans came to crow before the week slowed down a bit and no real news on Brand broke?

Many of us have been more concerned about longterm commitments to Baron Davis than his departure were and outright ready for his departure, and there is a lot of very positive emotion being shared about the cap room and the Warriors' incredible flexibility on the trade market, let alone the current FA market.

Many others, of course, agree completely that Baron Davis was the team's best player. In terms of pure ability/potential for dominance, almost all of us have agreed with that at some point, dependent upo which version of Davis was showing up that game. In terms of actual return over a prolonged historical sample, he simply is not and has not been the best anything. He was a great crowd draw early on and now the Warriors will build on that by building a true longterm winner with the money he has helped earn/save them.

However, the general Warriors public is probably much more concerned than the RealGM community is right now. That's cause for concern in the front office, I won't deny it. What happens in the next few days will determine how concerned everyone truly needs to be.

At the moment, either this week has all been a big show to heighten drama leaidng up to Brand taknig the huge paycut to play with Baron Davis (1 healthy season in 6 years, missed playoffs once JRich left, benched in a crucial game by the only coach who has motivated him to try in the last 6 years, Don Nelson) or Brand is very seriously on the market right now and you risk missing on him as much as the Warriors do.

[MonTazor]

I am also a season ticket holder and have been for 12 years. I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. With that said Baron Davis should have been an allstar not last year but the year before. He is an incredible talent and one I hate to lose. BUT he will be good for one maybe two more years then he will wear out his welcome. I would pay Baron 3 for 45 mill maybe even 3 for 50. But no way would I sign him for a 5 year deal. With that said he made a good business decision to opt out. I will cheer for him when he comes back to Oracle and wish him well. I think the Clippers will be on the rise if you stay together. I am hoping we land Brand, but if we don't I am sure we will land somebody decent. I still like our young core and think we can build something very special.