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[mkwest]

Roster as of August 12th:

PG: Baron Davis/Jason Williams/Jason Hart/Mike Taylor
SG: Cuttino Mobley/Eric Gordon
SF: Al Thornton/Ricky Davis/Steve Novak
PF: Marcus Camby/Tim Thomas
C: Chris Kaman/Brian Skinner/DeAndre Jordan

Btw, am I the only one that keeps forgetting to include Tim Thomas?

I like the way that the roster is looking right now. We have decent backups at every position. I would like for us to bring another serviceable big or a defensive player at the swing positions to complete the roster, but I am still satisfied if the roster stands as is.


My question is, how do you all think (or would like) the rotation will play out in theory?


B. Davis (35)/ Williams (13)
Mobley (24)/ Gordon (20) / R. Davis (4)
Thornton (30) / R. Davis (18)
Camby (24) / Thomas (20) / Skinner (4)
Kaman (34) / Camby (10) / Skinner (4)

Bench: Hart, Novak
IR/D-League: Taylor, Jordan

35 mins = B. Davis
34 mins = Kaman, Camby
30 mins = Thornton
24 mins = Mobley
22 mins = R. Davis
20 mins = Gordon, Thomas
13 mins = Williams
8 mins = Skinner

Baron averaged 39 mins last season while Kaman averaged 37 and Camby 34. I'd like to see them all cut back their minutes to preserve their health. Kaman was consistently putting in 40 mins/game and held strong until he went down with a shin injury followed by the flu. As you all know it was downhill from there for Chris. It's going to be interesting to see how the 2 guard rotation is played out. Dunleavy may play both points at times, and Ricky is also likely to get some time there as well.

[GuyverX]

I think that's about right...but I think Williams and Hart will share minutes. Williams will get more but I can't believe that Hart will only get 0-5 minutes a game during garbage time.

And I'd like to add that a lot of us would like to forget about Tim Thomas.

[jflipclip]

Knowing Dunleavy, he's probably going to give everyone PT.

On a more serious note, the two position really depends on the development of Gordon. If he's struggling, you'll probably see more of Ricky Davis. Williams could possibly play the two at times. I think you pretty much got it though.

[PlinkingPanda]

That seems about right, but I'd probably drop Camby's minutes down to 30 and give Skinner the extra 4.

[illastrate]

I worry about the PT with our depth, but I guess that's a "good" problem to have. I would like to see Gordon get more time as the season progresses and I also think Thornton needs to play more than I 30mins. I wish there was some way to get Hart/Novak/Jordan some mins, but it's just not feasible.

But of course, it's almost certain Baron and Camby will miss some games, so there's opportunities right there.

[bulldogcharly]

i think jordan will find a way to get minutes. he's very athletic and i think he could run the floor if we have both williams and davis on the court. i think maybe jordan should get novaks spot on the roster. all novak does is shoot and i have a feeling thomas will get his shot back this year because we finally have a great pg.

and thornton should get 2-4 more minutes.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I think this is a good break down for the beggining of the season. As the season goes along I think Gordon and Jordan will get more minutes. I also see Hart getting a few minutes a game here and there. I do agree with others that Thornton should get a few more minutes of PT and cut back one of our bigs by a few minutes.

[mkwest]

Foul trouble and unfortunately injuries are going to give players the opportunities to get some extra playing time. As Illastrate mentioned, the depth is a great problem to have, and then we have some versatility on top of that. I think that as long as we're winning there's going to be positive atmosphere around the team/locker room, and players that are looking for playing time will have to work harder in practice to earn the minutes. If we're losing then I could possibly see some grumbling. I'd like Thornton gets more than 30 myself. He'll probably also get minutes at the 4 as well.

[mj_shoefanatic]

Baron, Camby, Mobley and Kaman need to be consistent with the numbers they put up or at least attempt to hit their career avgs every game. AL needs to be our 20ppg guy and E-Go, Ricky D, Skinner, White Choc and Hart need to come up big off the bench no excuses!

[ClipperDomination]

Roster as of August 12th:

PG: Baron Davis/Jason Williams/Jason Hart/Mike Taylor
SG: Cuttino Mobley/Eric Gordon
SF: Al Thornton/Ricky Davis/Steve Novak
PF: Marcus Camby/Tim Thomas
C: Chris Kaman/Brian Skinner/DeAndre Jordan

Btw, am I the only one that keeps forgetting to include Tim Thomas?

I like the way that the roster is looking right now. We have decent backups at every position. I would like for us to bring another serviceable big or a defensive player at the swing positions to complete the roster, but I am still satisfied if the roster stands as is.


My question is, how do you all think (or would like) the rotation will play out in theory?


B. Davis (35)/ Williams (13)
Mobley (24)/ Gordon (20) / R. Davis (4)
Thornton (30) / R. Davis (18)
Camby (24) / Thomas (-20) / Skinner (4)
Kaman (34) / Camby (10) / Skinner (4)

Bench: Hart, Novak
IR/D-League: Taylor, Jordan

35 mins = B. Davis
34 mins = Kaman, Camby
30 mins = Thornton
24 mins = Mobley
22 mins = R. Davis
20 mins = Gordon, Thomas
13 mins = Williams
8 mins = Skinner

Baron averaged 39 mins last season while Kaman averaged 37 and Camby 34. I'd like to see them all cut back their minutes to preserve their health. Kaman was consistently putting in 40 mins/game and held strong until he went down with a shin injury followed by the flu. As you all know it was downhill from there for Chris. It's going to be interesting to see how the 2 guard rotation is played out. Dunleavy may play both points at times, and Ricky is also likely to get some time there as well.

Fixed.

[BMF Jet Jaguar]

so whats everyones thoughts on DEAAAndre. I'm a Texas AtM fan

[durden_tyler]

Davis' 35 is too thick. considering his injuries and you want to save him for the post season or the later part of the season. So, no. 30 minutes would be just fine.
Williams' 15 is too thin. Well, pardon the bias but if he is healthy he can give you 25 to 30 per game; ok, like Davis you'd want to monitor his minutes because of injuries as well but i think he is good to go for 5 or 10 more even as a back-up. i say he gets 25 if and when Dunleavy decides to go small and 20 if the head coach uses a more traditional line-up.

The real battle will be between Thornton and Davis. The latter is a jinx where ever he goes but can be a solid contributor on any given day. Thornton is growing up but with this team's current composition he's probably more fit in coming off the bench. Anyway i believe he is more versatile at the F spots as compared to a Davis that he'd be the perfect back-up for both spots.

Davis can slide to the 2 as well and might even be a better option than a Mobley.

All in all, i like the team's versatility but is weary of the chemistry. Minutes distribution by Dunleavy should consider the latter and maximize the former.
The starting line-up:

B Davis
C Mobley
R Davis/A Thornton (can't decide yet, i don't trust Ricky but i can't trust a young guy if we are in a win-now mode)
M Camby
C Kaman


The fast small ball line-up (My favorite, should we want to run and run):

Williams
B Davis
R Davis (Mobley could slide here as well...)
A Thornton
Camby

... i think our starting line-up is too slow but we can adjust on a game-to-game basis. i don't think that's healthy in establishing rhythm and chemistry but we just have to adjust since we've got some versatile player who can play 2-3 spots.

ae will see what kind of personality Dunleavy wants for this team...

[bulldogcharly]

Davis' 35 is too thick. considering his injuries and you want to save him for the post season or the later part of the season. So, no. 30 minutes would be just fine.
Williams' 15 is too thin. Well, pardon the bias but if he is healthy he can give you 25 to 30 per game; ok, like Davis you'd want to monitor his minutes because of injuries as well but i think he is good to go for 5 or 10 more even as a back-up. i say he gets 25 if and when Dunleavy decides to go small and 20 if the head coach uses a more traditional line-up.

The real battle will be between Thornton and Davis. The latter is a jinx where ever he goes but can be a solid contributor on any given day. Thornton is growing up but with this team's current composition he's probably more fit in coming off the bench. Anyway i believe he is more versatile at the F spots as compared to a Davis that he'd be the perfect back-up for both spots.

Davis can slide to the 2 as well and might even be a better option than a Mobley.

All in all, i like the team's versatility but is weary of the chemistry. Minutes distribution by Dunleavy should consider the latter and maximize the former.
The starting line-up:

B Davis
C Mobley
R Davis/A Thornton (can't decide yet, i don't trust Ricky but i can't trust a young guy if we are in a win-now mode)
M Camby
C Kaman


The fast small ball line-up (My favorite, should we want to run and run):

Williams
B Davis
R Davis (Mobley could slide here as well...)
A Thornton
Camby

... i think our starting line-up is too slow but we can adjust on a game-to-game basis. i don't think that's healthy in establishing rhythm and chemistry but we just have to adjust since we've got some versatile player who can play 2-3 spots.

ae will see what kind of personality Dunleavy wants for this team...

im sorry dont say we if you think the williams should be getting as many minutes as davis and thornton shouldnt be starting.

[mj_shoefanatic]

so whats everyones thoughts on DEAAAndre. I'm a Texas AtM fan

He most def a keeper and will benefit greatly from Camby and Kaman mentoring him throughout the 08/09 season.

[mkwest]

Davis' 35 is too thick. considering his injuries and you want to save him for the post season or the later part of the season. So, no. 30 minutes would be just fine.
Williams' 15 is too thin. Well, pardon the bias but if he is healthy he can give you 25 to 30 per game; ok, like Davis you'd want to monitor his minutes because of injuries as well but i think he is good to go for 5 or 10 more even as a back-up. i say he gets 25 if and when Dunleavy decides to go small and 20 if the head coach uses a more traditional line-up.

The real battle will be between Thornton and Davis. The latter is a jinx where ever he goes but can be a solid contributor on any given day. Thornton is growing up but with this team's current composition he's probably more fit in coming off the bench. Anyway i believe he is more versatile at the F spots as compared to a Davis that he'd be the perfect back-up for both spots.

Davis can slide to the 2 as well and might even be a better option than a Mobley.

All in all, i like the team's versatility but is weary of the chemistry. Minutes distribution by Dunleavy should consider the latter and maximize the former.
The starting line-up:

B Davis
C Mobley
R Davis/A Thornton (can't decide yet, i don't trust Ricky but i can't trust a young guy if we are in a win-now mode)
M Camby
C Kaman


The fast small ball line-up (My favorite, should we want to run and run):

Williams
B Davis
R Davis (Mobley could slide here as well...)
A Thornton
Camby

... i think our starting line-up is too slow but we can adjust on a game-to-game basis. i don't think that's healthy in establishing rhythm and chemistry but we just have to adjust since we've got some versatile player who can play 2-3 spots.

ae will see what kind of personality Dunleavy wants for this team...

Due to durability concerns, I would like for Davis to not have to put up a ton of minutes. With that said, he's not going to come home and play 9 less minutes than the previous year. Dunleavy has been adamantly professing this as the Baron Davis Era, so he's not going to be on the bench too long. I do think Williams and Davis will see minutes together at times though.

so whats everyones thoughts on DEAAAndre. I'm a Texas AtM fan

I love the pick and hope that by 2010 that he'll be ready to be a solid contributor. He's in a position where he has some solid vets in front of him to learn from and where he's not pressured to produce right away. He's a project but the coach does have faith in him to be able to contribute some this year. Camby, Kaman, & Hughes should be able to really help improve his game. I'm looking forward seeing him play, and hope that he proves to be a huge steal for us in the long run.

[durden_tyler]

im sorry dont say we if you think the williams should be getting as many minutes as davis and thornton shouldnt be starting.

No. Not at all. i was saying that Williams should be getting MORE than 15 minutes (If and when he is fully healthy) and at a back-up role. 25 should be the maximum, and 20 the average.