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How to Solve the Clippers' Fourth Quarter Woes-

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Post#1 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:05 pm

All we need to do in the offseason is sign a high-profile veteran PG FA to take control of the team in the 4th quarter and will the team to victory. Someone who is known as a 'clutch' type player, not afraid to take the big shot, someone who has shined in big games and in the playoffs and is ready to take this team to the 'next level'.

Bonus points if the player is a hometown boy, because for sure then he will want to play here and will play hard.

Anyone know who this guy is? I heard this play happened in the playoffs, that's exactly the sort of agressive play we need-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j01q8A6pqps
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Post#2 » by mattfish » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:42 pm

1. Coaching
2. Get players with determination and focus

1. The coaching is pretty bad in the 4th quarter, we just dump the ball to Kaman or Z-Bo, who both have no idea what to do when a double team approaches. Teams who double team them usually get a turnover in crucial times during the game. We also love to run "plays" that eat up the shot clock and leave our guards shooting 3's when they deny the entry pass.

2. Our players make plenty of mistakes at crucial times of the game (i.e. Z-Bo), chuck up bad 3's instead of driving to the basket (i.e. Baron), and turn over the ball with fancy / bad passing (i.e. Kaman). We also foul instead of playing good defense, which is why star players rack up the points against us from the line in crunch time (i.e. Bron Bron). We need more players who are smart and work hard on both ends during the entire game (i.e. Camby and EJ). The characters we have on our team will never reform unless we get a coach who the players respect and can instill determination and a will to win (i.e. NOT Dunleavy).
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Post#3 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:19 pm

I really really really want Dunleavy gone, we just can't close out games and his decision making is horrible in the fourth quarter. No lead is safe with our team.
I've been an LA Clipper fan since 1998 and that will never change. I hate our new logo and jerseys!
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Post#4 » by PlinkingPanda » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:03 pm

or we can just resign Sammy. He's probably more effective at 100 years old than Baron at this point. :lol:
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Post#5 » by TheNewEra » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:26 am

4th quarter is supppose to show the true skill of a coach
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Post#6 » by illastrate » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:31 am

EJ is the KEY. He needs to take over. Dumbleavy has to let him. As long as our "coach" is still here, he needs to trust Eric and let him impose his will on other teams. That, or Eric needs to just ignore all of Dumb's stupid plays and just go off instinct.
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Post#7 » by cinnamon » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:57 pm

New coach.
(And I do not mean Cassell.)
New, high-quality, experienced, NBA-proven head coach. Someone who knows how to get and hold his players' confidence and respect, and how to close out a game successfully.
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Post#8 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:10 pm

cinnamon wrote:New coach.
(And I do not mean Cassell.)
New, high-quality, experienced, NBA-proven head coach.


Like, say, Mike Dunleavy? Ha ha, just keeping with the meme of my original post.
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Post#9 » by ClipperEric » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:52 pm

IMO most close games don't come down to coaching at the end. Most teams don't really run plays at all, they just put the ball into the hands of their star and let him make things happen. The Kobe's, LeBron's and Cassell's of this world don't choke late in the game. While everyone else freezes up, they become more bold. I thought Baron was in the same mold, but I was sorely mistaken. During crunch time i'd like to see us turn the reigns over to Eric Gordon and let him go to work.
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Post#10 » by boogizking » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:44 pm

Fire Dumbleavy.
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Post#11 » by bballer27 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:06 am

im a piston fan and i think you guys should go after a.i.
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Post#12 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:33 pm

ClipperEric wrote:IMO most close games don't come down to coaching at the end. Most teams don't really run plays at all, they just put the ball into the hands of their star and let him make things happen. The Kobe's, LeBron's and Cassell's of this world don't choke late in the game. While everyone else freezes up, they become more bold. I thought Baron was in the same mold, but I was sorely mistaken. During crunch time i'd like to see us turn the reigns over to Eric Gordon and let him go to work.


He did get a chance against the Cavs. He slipped and travelled.

But yeah, I totally agree with your post. The problem is that the Clippers as a whole don't know what to do. You still need to know how to handle it as a team, or else one guy gets the ball and everyone else just sort of stands around waiting for him to make something happen.

I also thought Baron was in the same mold, if there was a time for him to at least try, the Cavs game was it. The commentators kept talking about how LeBron stuck to him and didn't let him get the in-bounds pass on the last play, but I don't recall that ever happening to say Kobe.
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Post#13 » by ClipperEric » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:01 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:He did get a chance against the Cavs. He slipped and travelled.

But yeah, I totally agree with your post. The problem is that the Clippers as a whole don't know what to do. You still need to know how to handle it as a team, or else one guy gets the ball and everyone else just sort of stands around waiting for him to make something happen.

I also thought Baron was in the same mold, if there was a time for him to at least try, the Cavs game was it. The commentators kept talking about how LeBron stuck to him and didn't let him get the in-bounds pass on the last play, but I don't recall that ever happening to say Kobe.

I'm not talking "A" chance. I'm talking about giving him the ball for the last 5 minutes of every game. I liked the last play against Indiana too, it just didn't go in. But at least he took it strong.

Eric Gordon has already proven to be the best player on this team and his potential is limitless. He has absolute star potential.
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Post#14 » by moses22 » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:38 pm

I agree EJ should of had the ball the last 5 minutes when he has the ball in his hands good things happen he will take the shot or make the right pass if its there he doesnt really force anything the one problem is the ball is in barons hands 90 pecent of the time even if they inbound the ball to EJ he gives it right to baron i dont think B Diddy trust him enough to let him have the ball late
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Post#15 » by madmaxmedia » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:26 pm

ClipperEric wrote:Eric Gordon has already proven to be the best player on this team and his potential is limitless. He has absolute star potential.


Oh yeah, I am with you 100% on that. In fact I was wondering at one point if I was too high on the guy. But it's clear to me that he is the best player on the team already.

If he was on a more prominent team he'd be much more prominent than he is now.

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