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ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10)

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ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#1 » by scratch21 » Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:00 pm

On Tuesday, we forecast the East, and today it's the West.

One note of explanation, as covered yesterday: The order of finish is more important in these predictions than the exact number of wins and losses. When 53 individuals vote, they will almost never all agree that one team will win as many as, let's say, 65 games, or that another team will win only 20 games, even though we know these things happen frequently. Why? Because these are extreme results that happen when pretty much everything goes right or everything goes wrong for a team. The panel collectively takes a more measured view, so the forecasts for wins and losses tend to float toward the middle.


Predicted Standings for Western Conference: 2009-10


CONF TEAM W L PCT 09 W 09 L 09 PCT
1 Los Angeles Lakers 62 20 .756 65 17 .793
Our forecasters say the champion Lakers will edge the Cavs for best record in the NBA and home court throughout the playoffs, which will come in handy if we get a Kobe-LeBron showdown. That's the only close race the Lakers will be in, according to our panel, which doesn't seem too worried about potential disruptions by Ron Artest.


2 San Antonio Spurs 54 28 .659 54 28 .659
The aging Spurs appear to be back in business, though in fact they somehow managed 54 wins and the No. 3 seed last season before being bounced in Round 1. This time around, their hopes rest on a return to health by Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili and the additions of Richard Jefferson, Antonio McDyess and DeJuan Blair.


3 Portland Trail Blazers 52 30 .634 54 28 .659
Can Portland become the proverbial "team nobody wants to face" in the Western Conference playoffs? Or are they ready for true contender status? Expectations are large, as are the variables: Can Greg Oden find himself? How will Andre Miller's go-go style mesh with the walk-it-up Blazers? And who's the starting point guard, anyway?


4 Denver Nuggets 51 31 .622 54 28 .659
The Nuggets won't sneak up on anyone this year, and perhaps they won't need to. With largely the same roster as they had in May, Denver is counting on good health and the further development of Carmelo Anthony to stay among the West's best. If these predictions hold, they might get a playoff rematch with the Lakers.


5 Dallas Mavericks 50 32 .610 50 32 .610
The Mavs had a topsy-turvy summer that, according to our panel, will leave them right where they were last season: 50-32, and in the middle of the pack. They brought back Jason Kidd and acquired Shawn Marion and Drew Gooden, but lost a battle of wits with Orlando for Brandon Bass and Marcin Gortat. Expect the moves to keep coming.


6 Utah Jazz* 47 35 .573 48 34 .585
Utah was a trendy name a year ago, but barely rates a mention now, for a couple of reasons: The team is coming off a disappointing season, and the Carlos Boozer situation is unresolved. But the Jazz still have a potent roster led by Deron Williams, and the dark-horse label seems to fit this team as well as any other in the West.


7 New Orleans Hornets* 47 35 .573 49 33 .598
It was a disappointing season in New Orleans, relative to the high expectations they started with, but they still won 49 games and they still have Chris Paul. The Hornets are another of the West's "if everything breaks right" contenders, as they need Julian Wright, Ike Diogu and Hilton Armstrong to do more to justify being lottery picks.


8 Phoenix Suns 42 40 .512 46 36 .561
The Suns were a lottery team last season, but a good one, winning 46 despite a coaching change and an eye injury to Amare Stoudemire. Now Shaq's gone, and the speed game is back, led by Steve Nash. If Amare returns to full health, the Suns will light it up again. But will that be enough for more than 8th best in the West?


9 Houston Rockets 37 45 .451 53 29 .646
The Rockets were a remarkable story last season, taking the Lakers to seven games without Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady. Now Houston is in a transition year, as Yao appears out for the season and T-Mac's return is iffy. One thing does seem certain: The Rockets will scrap and claw and make every opponent's W well-earned.


10 Los Angeles Clippers 33 49 .402 19 63 .232
Giddy Clippers fans might not appreciate this forecast, but keep in mind: A 33-49 record would be a 14-game leap, and L.A. has been such a disheveled franchise it's going to have to prove itself to our panel. That said, some see the Clips winning as many as 50 games, thanks in large part to the arrival of Blake Griffin.


11 Oklahoma City Thunder 32 50 .390 23 59 .280
No West bandwagon is more crowded than OKC's, with our panel seeing the team that started 1-16 a year ago making the leap to mediocrity. Given the age of Kevin Durant (20), Russell Westbrook (20), Jeff Green (23) and newcomer James Harden (20), it's not hard to see what the excitement is about. But it will be hard to see them on TV.


12 Golden State Warriors 31 51 .378 29 53 .354
Golden State celebrated its crowning as Team Turmoil with another heaping helping of controversy, as putative team leader Stephen Jackson reportedly asked to be traded to a good team. The talent of such youngsters as Monta Ellis and Anthony Randolph is undeniable, but clearly our panelists just do not trust the Warriors to pull it together.


13 Minn. Timberwolves 26 56 .317 24 58 .293
Minnesota's noisy offseason of trades, controversial draft picks, the firing of Kevin McHale, the hiring of Kurt Rambis and a failed bid to sign Ricky Rubio is likely to be followed by a quiet season on the hardwood. The immediate future is about getting Al Jefferson healthy and seeing what youngsters Kevin Love and Jonny Flynn can do.


14 Memphis Grizzlies 25 57 .305 24 58 .293
The talent base is improving thanks to youngsters Rudy Gay, O.J. Mayo, Marc Gasol, Hasheem Thabeet and Mike Conley. However, the arrival of Zach Randolph, our pick for Worst Newcomer, means that chemistry will continue to be an issue in Memphis, which also has its sights set on the 34-year-old Allen Iverson. Go figure.


15 Sacramento Kings 21 61 .256 17 65 .207
The Kings take the honors as the NBA's worst team, both in last season's standings and this season's projections. Reasons for optimism include a return to health for Kevin Martin and the arrival of Tyreke Evans, but even that is a bit troubling, as they might end up playing the same position. Expect another long year in Sac-Town.



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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#2 » by BoomFizzle » Wed Sep 2, 2009 11:41 pm

Rankings seem pretty fair for every team. Would obviously hope for a bit better for the Clippers but thats the nature of being a fan.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#3 » by Forte IV » Wed Sep 2, 2009 11:53 pm

I personally doubt the Rockets will be that good. With no yao, and a questionable tmac...
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#4 » by playaloc916 » Thu Sep 3, 2009 12:43 am

SuperNova854 wrote:I personally doubt the Rockets will be that good. With no yao, and a questionable tmac...


Not to mention no Artest. They'll be a tough team that plays with heart, but I just don't see them fighting for a playoff spot unless McGrady comes back somewhat healthy.

I think 8th to 10th seed could be a really tight one. I hope the Clippers can get it together this season and try competing for the 8th spot.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#5 » by mkwest » Thu Sep 3, 2009 6:15 am

10 at this point, is pretty fair coming from the media. We absolutely sucked last season, so to move up 4 spots is pretty good. I personally believe we're capable of being better than that, but the team has a few things to prove. I don't think people are expecting much from Houston, but Adelman may get that team to exceed the expectations. There's a lot of talk about McGrady, but most players who undergo microfracture usually are done for a year. He had his surgery about 6 or so months ago. I was expecting him back some time after the new year, but maybe he's pushing for an earlier return to showcase himself before the summer. They have nice role players, but are missing that go to guy right now, unless Brooks or somebody else emerges. If they do win quite a few games, it'll be due to heart and coaching.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#6 » by mj_shoefanatic » Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:15 am

10 is very reasonable.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#7 » by donemilio21 » Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:59 am

My prediction is 7th.
We obviously have a better team then hornets and rockets. And portland wouldn't finish that high.
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Post#8 » by SportsFan215 » Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:19 pm

That seems about right.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#9 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Fri Sep 4, 2009 7:30 pm

I think we'll be fighting for one of the last two playoff spots. I do agree with you all that Houston shouldn't be in the 8th spot. I think they will have a rough start and if they are able to get healthy this season, then maybe they will be fighting for the playoffs. But I do expect us to have a much better season than last season.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#10 » by cinnamon » Sat Sep 5, 2009 9:39 pm

So hard to predict these things now.
So much depends on health/injury situations and chemistry and leadership, not just here but everywhere. There have been many changes.
I think 8 to 10 is reasonable, looking from this position.
But from watching teams end up way differently from the predictions about them year after year, I am not betting any money on the Clippers not being higher, or lower.
Time will tell what I can't.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#11 » by TheNewEra » Mon Sep 7, 2009 12:08 am

WE need to go into next season with the attitude with playoffs or bust it should be that level of pressure applied to players and coaches.

If our team goes as it is I see

B.Davis/Telfair/Collins
Gordon/R.Davis/Collins
Thorton*/Butler*/Novak
Griffin/Smith/Camby
Kaman/Camby/Jordan

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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#12 » by Heyvoon24 » Mon Sep 7, 2009 3:50 am

I also think the clipps will have a better record than the hornets.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#13 » by og15 » Mon Sep 7, 2009 2:52 pm

donemilio21 wrote:My prediction is 7th.
We obviously have a better team then hornets and rockets. And portland wouldn't finish that high.

The Hornets won 49 games last season and they had Peja miss 21 games, Chandler miss 37 games and one of the worst front court rotations outside of David West (Armstrong, Marks and Ely). They also had their previous starting SG MoPete injured for the whole season, their sophomore player Wright started the season injured and missed 29 games. They got healthier (Emeka, Wright, MoPete) and deeper/better (Diogu, Collison).

I'm not too sure I would say the Clippers have a "better" team than a team that can still win 49 games with the league's worst starting C for 37 games and some of the worst backup big men in the league and also having a good amount of injuries. At least we can't say that till we see the Clippers play and how much production Blake gives in his first season, how well everyone plays together and how Dunleavy fits his coaching style to the players he has. Right now though, definitely not.

I think the ranking is pretty fair. One can't expect a team that was dismal last season to get jumped up to the playoffs just like that. We all know injuries were an issue, but writers are probably saying how do we know injuries won't be an issue again?

So hard to predict these things now.
So much depends on health/injury situations and chemistry and leadership, not just here but everywhere. There have been many changes.

Exactly, I think based on the talent level and all the factors, 10th is a fair ranking for the Clippers at this point in time.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#14 » by JJ LoDuca » Tue Sep 8, 2009 1:54 am

10 is fair, considering last year, like many of you said. I'd personally expect to be somewhere between 6-8 by season's end, mainly because I'm a Clippers fan and I just don't know any better. I think that Phoenix and New Orleans will be just fine, but I wonder about Dallas. I thought 5 was a pretty generous spot for them. Portland is gonna be great to watch too. And don't sleep on OKC-- I think they might be just good enough to be bothersome.
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Re: ESPN Summer Forecast: West standings (Clips 10) 

Post#15 » by StutterStep » Tue Sep 8, 2009 3:20 pm

Spurs and Portland are being overrated though they will make the playoffs.

I do not see Dallas going injury free all year -- lots of guys with mileage like the Spurs in recent years.

Clips -- 10 is fair but I wouldn't be surprised if it goes right/wrong in either direction.

Houston and Thunder down a few slots depending on how Clips and Grizzlies do.

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