Doc & the KG Drama, Part (I don't give a ----)

[mttwlsn16]

I can't believe that Boston is even getting one 1st rounder from the Clips. Garnett is washed up. And you can get Doc Rivers just by waiting. Let Rivers go back to broadcasting and then sign him next year.

Focus on Dwight, and you can get whoever you want to coach.

Fk outta here w that Dwight crap

[soxfan2003]

I think Quake is right w/ his quote below, sorry for the horrible editing


refereeing.
refs who once would not give us the benefit of the doubt because we were whiney and floppy now have to respect a guy like Doc, KG or Paul Pierce

I still feel like Pierce will break down, I think he is one of those guys like Antoine Walker/ Penny Hardaway who's skills will diminish quickly. I think last year put a lot of stress on his body, which he doesn't do a great job in taking care of can't handle it at this stage of his career.
I disagree that Doc is a great Coach, he has always had HIGH profile players McBaby w/ Orlando & the Celts and he has gone to 2 finals & lost one. Ask Rondo or Big Baby Davis if they think he is a great coach, Doc picked on those two for no reason half the time and they are both good players who work hard.

As a Celtic fan who watched Walker and PP closely I must say I think you are wrong about PP. Ever since Ray Allen arrived, PP has been great about trying to preserve his body for the long haul and he was never bad like Walker at taking care of it. Walker was terrible and often completely out of shape. And Paul Pierce can shoot the ball and those sort of players last a long time while Walker was a horrible shooter. And PP relies upon strength and not quickness as much. For sure his skills have already diminished in a major way but compared to many players his age, he really has aged very gracefully since his game is based to a decent degree on shooting and strength.

What PP will lose and has already lost to a decent extent is the ability to beat very good defenders off the dribble. But as a 3rd/4th option he doesn't really have to do that much and would be a great value at the MLE. Look at what Ray Allen has done this post season... PP with Boston was much better then Ray Allen all around the last couple of seasons and he is younger. I'll be the first to say RA is the much better shooter but PP can still shoot very well.

Unless the Clippers were scared by a KG injury -- he did have some foot pain at the end of the season that doctors determined didn't need surgery --, I think they were nuts not to accept the Celtics offer. But perhaps there is a better alternative for them that I don't know about.

I can see the Clippers reluctance to pay the asking price for Rivers given his high salary demands but KG was being offered for a deep discount IMHO to more then make up for it. DJ is not a player I would have confidence in the playoffs anytime soon. More then anyone else he is the player holding back the Clippers. I didn't even want him on the Celtics.

Say what you will about the Clippers coach this past season and perhaps he should have played DJ more but he was right on the money about DJ and the need for a serious upgrade. Anyways if I don't post again on this forum, I sure hope the Clippers upstage the Lakers for a very long time.

[madmaxmedia]

The big question is how KG will be next year, and perhaps the year after that.

But DJ and 2 1st's was fine with me otherwise, especially if it meant we might be able to sign PP at a reasonable price. Both KG and PP would be able to play reasonable MPG to keep them as fresh as possible. We could then can swing a second deal based around Bledsoe.

That being said, although I would like Rivers there are other good coaches available, and sticking with DJ at center is not the worst thing in the world IMO. I think ultimately the Celtics needed this trade more than the Clippers, in that they are the ones may lose Rivers and possibly Garnett anyway. I also don't think we should discount the 2 1st round picks too much. They'd be lower picks, but hey that's where we got Bledsoe.

[og15]

As long as we have confidence that the coach can make DJ a defensive anchor. The playoff defense on this team has been pitiful the last two seasons, atrocious, and sadly DJ is part of that.

I think Quake is right w/ his quote below, sorry for the horrible editing


refereeing.
refs who once would not give us the benefit of the doubt because we were whiney and floppy now have to respect a guy like Doc, KG or Paul Pierce

I still feel like Pierce will break down, I think he is one of those guys like Antoine Walker/ Penny Hardaway who's skills will diminish quickly. I think last year put a lot of stress on his body, which he doesn't do a great job in taking care of can't handle it at this stage of his career.
I disagree that Doc is a great Coach, he has always had HIGH profile players McBaby w/ Orlando & the Celts and he has gone to 2 finals & lost one. Ask Rondo or Big Baby Davis if they think he is a great coach, Doc picked on those two for no reason half the time and they are both good players who work hard.

Penny was injured, Walker as a chucker who was constantly out of shape, the comparison doesn't hold. Pierce has played a ton of games, he just put up 20/7/5 per 36, what do you think is going to happen beceause of one off-season?

Pierce's game has never been about athletic ability, which is why he has been doing quite well into his late years. Like Vince also who is doing well, being able to shoot and still committing to defense at an older age extends your career.

The logic doesn't really flow at all in comparing Pierce to a guy who declined because of a ton of injuries and a guy who was never that great (IMO), and was always out of shape.

Also you do realize that Matt Barnes is 33 years old himself...

[Illogicality]

I wonder who else we can get in a trade from Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler, and some picks.

[Don Tommy]

Pierce might still get cut, we might still be able to pick him up for the MLE, and we still have pieces that can be moved. So we don't get a 37 year old with a year left in him, we keep our 24 year old freak. Let's do the anti - Vinnie and actually try to coach DJ!

[Angel strike1]

Pierce might still get cut, we might still be able to pick him up for the MLE, and we still have pieces that can be moved. So we don't get a 37 year old with a year left in him, we keep our 24 year old freak. Let's do the anti - Vinnie and actually try to coach DJ!

He will follow kg doc. Hive rivers tells them tommorow to get the trade done.


Side benefit Austin rivers could be free agent around time cp3 is done. So we be our guard of future

[H00PDREAMS]

How come my post on this subject gets locked and this one gets 2 pages? Just saying.

[mttwlsn16]

How come my post on this subject gets locked and this one gets 2 pages? Just saying.

Why did you feel the need to make a 2nd thread of the same thing? Just saying.

[illastrate]

DJ and 2 1sts is absolutely worth it for Doc and KG. Would be ecstatic with that.

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[og15]

Pierce might still get cut, we might still be able to pick him up for the MLE, and we still have pieces that can be moved. So we don't get a 37 year old with a year left in him, we keep our 24 year old freak. Let's do the anti - Vinnie and actually try to coach DJ!

He will follow kg doc. Hive rivers tells them tommorow to get the trade done.


Side benefit Austin rivers could be free agent around time cp3 is done. So we be our guard of future

[H00PDREAMS]

How come my post on this subject gets locked and this one gets 2 pages? Just saying.

Why did you feel the need to make a 2nd thread of the same thing? Just saying.

My post was before this one. 2 days before this one...

Anyway. Is it safe to say Paul must be ready to jet out of town since the Clipps are pressing hard for Rivers?

[adiedanny]

How come my post on this subject gets locked and this one gets 2 pages? Just saying.

Why did you feel the need to make a 2nd thread of the same thing? Just saying.

My post was before this one. 2 days before this one...

Anyway. Is it safe to say Paul must be ready to jet out of town since the Clipps are pressing hard for Rivers?

Yours was informative and it should have been posted in the already created coaching thread.This was a Clippers fan point of view and rant.