Adding our 3rd "star" (not superstar)?
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Adding our 3rd "star" (not superstar)?
Who would you guys want for this offseason,hell now that we have Paul (hopefully),Griffin AND a coach like Rivers we can recruit almost anybody,but who?I would want Dwight but the Lakers wouldn't give him up for anything less than Grif+Bled so no,JR Smith?I feel he's just too streaky and basically a rich mans Crawford.Who else can we add?Clearing capspace would be pretty hard seeing as how nobody thinks DJ is worth giving up cap space for.We could benefit greatly from just one more name that can force defences to have to worry about.I'm not talking Dwight's and Melo's. I just think another player good enough defences honest.Do you guys agree?
And if so WHO can/has been linked/wants to the Clippers!
And if so WHO can/has been linked/wants to the Clippers!
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J.R. Smith is neither a star or making you richer than having Crawford, though he can defend better.
Outside of Dwight, there isn't really a player in the market this year that the Clippers should be wasting money on. If they want Dwight they can clear cap space and go after him with some trades and not have to give the Lakers anything. There are players out there that the Clippers can get who can keep them stuck in a contract and right before the contending level, but not able to get over the hump (Al Jefferson type).
Outside of Dwight, there isn't really a player in the market this year that the Clippers should be wasting money on. If they want Dwight they can clear cap space and go after him with some trades and not have to give the Lakers anything. There are players out there that the Clippers can get who can keep them stuck in a contract and right before the contending level, but not able to get over the hump (Al Jefferson type).
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Affalo, Pierce, Granger, Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon. All good pieces, but Im just talking. They arent linked to any of those guys but Affalo and Pierce.
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If we are talking about stars only healthy Gordon, healthy Granger, and Pierce count, but he has a shorter "star" lifespan left. The other two are a bit far from being stars. Don't like the healthy adjective that needs to be put with the first two, haha.
Any possibly acquirable guys out there?
Verballer, there are teams interested in DJ, Portland being one. Atlanta if the lose Josh Smith and what is the likely outcome, not sign Howard, a front-court of Jordan and Horford would interest them, and if the purpose is only to clear space, you can do It for their draft pick, though of course Portland is a better option in that scenario as their pick is higher. DJ is worth a bit more than just the 18th pick.
Charlotte could also be an option, but they won't do it for their pick, so that's harder. Dallas could also be an option if none of their free agent desires work out, but it depends if they would like to go into free agency next year again in that scenario. They are more iffy. Philly could maybe be an option if things don't work out with Bynum, but probably not, and they would probably want the Clippers to take something like a J-Rich + pick in exchange. They are iffy.
So:
Portland
Atlanta
Charlotte
Dallas*
Philadelphia*
Any possibly acquirable guys out there?
Verballer, there are teams interested in DJ, Portland being one. Atlanta if the lose Josh Smith and what is the likely outcome, not sign Howard, a front-court of Jordan and Horford would interest them, and if the purpose is only to clear space, you can do It for their draft pick, though of course Portland is a better option in that scenario as their pick is higher. DJ is worth a bit more than just the 18th pick.
Charlotte could also be an option, but they won't do it for their pick, so that's harder. Dallas could also be an option if none of their free agent desires work out, but it depends if they would like to go into free agency next year again in that scenario. They are more iffy. Philly could maybe be an option if things don't work out with Bynum, but probably not, and they would probably want the Clippers to take something like a J-Rich + pick in exchange. They are iffy.
So:
Portland
Atlanta
Charlotte
Dallas*
Philadelphia*
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I would like us to take a risk on granger. The pacers went deep into the playoffs and it wasn't Granger's absence which made them fall short it was their bench. Clippers could acquire a great 3rd scorer (provided health) and the pacers would free up enough salary to improve their bench. I realise Granger is a 'longshot' for the clippers but without a third star I don't see the Clippers getting out of the west.
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A healthy Granger would be great.
Realistically I think our best hope for a '3rd star' is Afflalo or Pierce, but Afflalo isn't a star, realisically I'd be happy with Afflalo and a cheap SF who can shoot. Then Crawford off the bench etc will be included in that 3rd star role!
Realistically I think our best hope for a '3rd star' is Afflalo or Pierce, but Afflalo isn't a star, realisically I'd be happy with Afflalo and a cheap SF who can shoot. Then Crawford off the bench etc will be included in that 3rd star role!
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Verballer wrote:JR Smith?I feel he's just too streaky and basically a rich mans Crawford.
I would love to see JR Smith and Crawford on the same team, who can out chuck either other every night!
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I'm still looking at adding Iggy in a S&T. I think his perimeter D is what we need. I still want another shooter, plus I want to keep Green, but Butler and Bledsoe for Iggy is an okay deal for me
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idk if i can see EJ coming back. loved him when he was here, but now he seems to me like a whiny bitch.
plus, big contract for how injury prone he is.
plus, big contract for how injury prone he is.

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I'm a big fan of EJ but he has a big contract and when the going gets tough late in games who do you put in EJ or crawford? I would rather put money into a longer SF who is an offensive threat so we don't have to choose between playing small or having either EJ or craw on the bench.
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I think it's pretty hard to try to add a 3rd star. We could certainly use another dynamic player. Crawford is the closest thing to a 3rd option, but he's streaky. He might have a big scoring game one night and then the next give us a 3 for 13 performance. In the regular season, it's manageable. In the playoffs, we need something a little more certain.
Pierce could be the easiest get if he's bought out whether it be by Boston or some team that trades for him. If he gets the opportunity to be a free-agent, I think that we would be near the top (if not the top) of his list.
I like the idea of Iggy as well. I think we could come up with the salary in a trade, but the pieces are the question. Butler is an expiring and would be a solid stopgap for Denver while they wait for Gallo to return. They don't really need Bledsoe though since they have Lawson and Andre Miller.
Gordon would be a sentimental acquisition afaic. He was my favorite Clipper when he was here. He can defend, shoot, get to the hoop/line and can carry the scoring load if necessary. I'm not worried about any attitude as I think he would be happy to be back here and playing on what should be a consider with him on the roster. It always comes back to his health though.
The trade for Granger has long been discussed. The benefit is that he's realistically affordable and we would obtain his bird rights to re-sign him next offseason. I just don't know what the state of his knee is. He's already 30. If he's on the court, he can help, but that's not a given.
Pierce could be the easiest get if he's bought out whether it be by Boston or some team that trades for him. If he gets the opportunity to be a free-agent, I think that we would be near the top (if not the top) of his list.
I like the idea of Iggy as well. I think we could come up with the salary in a trade, but the pieces are the question. Butler is an expiring and would be a solid stopgap for Denver while they wait for Gallo to return. They don't really need Bledsoe though since they have Lawson and Andre Miller.
Gordon would be a sentimental acquisition afaic. He was my favorite Clipper when he was here. He can defend, shoot, get to the hoop/line and can carry the scoring load if necessary. I'm not worried about any attitude as I think he would be happy to be back here and playing on what should be a consider with him on the roster. It always comes back to his health though.
The trade for Granger has long been discussed. The benefit is that he's realistically affordable and we would obtain his bird rights to re-sign him next offseason. I just don't know what the state of his knee is. He's already 30. If he's on the court, he can help, but that's not a given.
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My issue with Iguodala is this, because I really like him:
-he's not good enough on offense to impact your team in any drastic way there individually, though he can as a role player/glue guy
-he's very good on defense, but not a guy that anchors a defense
-the price for him because of those things is hard to swallow
Iguodala is a low level All-Star at his best, not a perennial All-Star type player, despite his two way abilities.
What that ends up meaning is that you can find better cost/production ratio for his skill sets. He's not a true 3/D guy because his 3PT shot is weak, but he's a better ball handler and passer than similar guys you will find. In addition, he's closer to a 4th option than he is to a 2nd or 3rd option.
He can play a lot of minutes, but the last 3 seasons per 36:
13.3 ppg | 5.7 rpg | 5.8 apg | 45.0% FG | 34.5% 3PT | 63.2% FT | 1.7 steals | 0.6 blks | 2.2 tov | .528 TS%
That's basically the Bledsoe of SF/SG. Bledsoe this season per 36:
14.9 pts | 5.2 rpg | 5.4 apg | 44.5% FG | 39.7% 3PT | 79.1% FG | 2.5 steals | 1.3 blk | 3.2 tov | .513 TS%
(Of course he's better because of the much reduced turnover rate, but that's essentially the biggest different between their production outside of Iguodala having better defensive multi-positionality, being able to guard 1-3)
Remember, he's 29 years old, he isn't getting significantly better by any means. Iguodala is a great glue guy type player. He's a nice guy to have, but he's probably not the smartest guy to pay big money to, just because you can get better cost/production value from other players. He's sort of like a more talented version of prime Shane Battier as he can create shots a bit more, put it on the floor and create for others, though Shane in his younger days did more than spot up shoot. But he's an inferior shooter, but impact wise he doesn't offer enough above a battier to justify making twice as much as a player like that on my team.
-he's not good enough on offense to impact your team in any drastic way there individually, though he can as a role player/glue guy
-he's very good on defense, but not a guy that anchors a defense
-the price for him because of those things is hard to swallow
Iguodala is a low level All-Star at his best, not a perennial All-Star type player, despite his two way abilities.
What that ends up meaning is that you can find better cost/production ratio for his skill sets. He's not a true 3/D guy because his 3PT shot is weak, but he's a better ball handler and passer than similar guys you will find. In addition, he's closer to a 4th option than he is to a 2nd or 3rd option.
He can play a lot of minutes, but the last 3 seasons per 36:
13.3 ppg | 5.7 rpg | 5.8 apg | 45.0% FG | 34.5% 3PT | 63.2% FT | 1.7 steals | 0.6 blks | 2.2 tov | .528 TS%
That's basically the Bledsoe of SF/SG. Bledsoe this season per 36:
14.9 pts | 5.2 rpg | 5.4 apg | 44.5% FG | 39.7% 3PT | 79.1% FG | 2.5 steals | 1.3 blk | 3.2 tov | .513 TS%
(Of course he's better because of the much reduced turnover rate, but that's essentially the biggest different between their production outside of Iguodala having better defensive multi-positionality, being able to guard 1-3)
Remember, he's 29 years old, he isn't getting significantly better by any means. Iguodala is a great glue guy type player. He's a nice guy to have, but he's probably not the smartest guy to pay big money to, just because you can get better cost/production value from other players. He's sort of like a more talented version of prime Shane Battier as he can create shots a bit more, put it on the floor and create for others, though Shane in his younger days did more than spot up shoot. But he's an inferior shooter, but impact wise he doesn't offer enough above a battier to justify making twice as much as a player like that on my team.
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