How did you guys feel about Baron Davis's stint here?

[Quake Griffin]

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I wasn't here when we signed him and I think I signed up here after the Mo Williams trade but before CP....so I want input from you guys.

Do you hate Baron?
Do you feel bad for him?
Were you just glad we, the effin Clippers, were able to sign an FA?


for some reason i can't bring myself to really hate or get mad at LA bred NBA players....well, Harden is pushing it. But I still have a lot of love for this guy.

[TheNewEra]

Probably the last two, it was a bad situation after Brand bolted because he was suppose to be the middle ground between him and Dunleavy. Out of shape most of year one and injuries constantly brought the team down and Vinny always looked for a scapegoat while he was here and then there was tension with Eric Gordon. Baron NEVER should of been dealt with our pick but everything worked out in the end for everyone really except him with his injuries in NY. Wish him the best hopefully he can get a role with the franchise somehow.

[Forte IV]

I overrated him way too much when it broke news of us signing him.

[mkwest]

I was initially excited. Baron opted out of the final year of his deal and we were getting a little hopeful that we had a shot. Some Warrior fan came over here basically implying that "B-Diddy" was going to be a Clipper due to some personal knowledge of the situation. The thought of pairing a recovered Brand and Baron together a huge step up from the dismal 07-08 season that we had. Brand had previously done an interview with a Philly radio station. Their fans were hyped that he could possibly sign with them. After his talk at the end of 07-08 season and the potential of adding Baron, I thought for sure that he would be back. We all know the rest.

I was pretty pissed that Brand bolted. It wasn't so much that he left, but how it happened. I've forgiven the dude and gotten over it, but I still can't stand Falk. Dunleavy went on the radio to put out his truth on "bRANd" and Falk and declared that this was now "the Baron Davis Era." I liked the boldness by Dunleavy and was ready to embrace the new era of Clipper basketball.

It didn't work out for anybody involved. Baron had his moments where he shined, but there was the injuries, the poor physical condition and the attitude. When we were the lottery, everybody was hyped....the fans, players, coaches, etc. Blake goes down in the final game of the preseason, but that's OK because he'll be back in a few months. Baron was in pretty decent shape and the team was trying to tread water until he returned so that we could make a playoff push. Then there was the broken water main game in Memphis which was pretty symbolic for the rest of the season and for the futures of Dunleavy and Davis with the franchise.

I really like Baron the person and I wanted it to work for that reason, but it was just not a good fit. There's things that he could have done differently, but it just wasn't meant to be. I wanted us to trade him or hopefully amnesty him if it existed in the new CBA (2011), so I wasn't upset with the deal. I was a bit pissed that Cleveland won the lottery with our pick though. Irving was the only player I would have been upset with giving up at the time and it happened. At the end of the day, it worked out for us. I hated to see Baron destroy his knee with the Knicks. If he's done for good, then I wish him the best. I'd like to see him around in the NBA in some kind of capacity.

[Quake Griffin]

I was initially excited. Baron opted out of the final year of his deal and we were getting a little hopeful that we had a shot. Some Warrior fan came over here basically implying that "B-Diddy" was going to be a Clipper due to some personal knowledge of the situation. The thought of pairing a recovered Brand and Baron together a huge step up from the dismal 07-08 season that we had. Brand had previously done an interview with a Philly radio station. Their fans were hyped that he could possibly sign with them. After his talk at the end of 07-08 season and the potential of adding Baron, I thought for sure that he would be back. We all know the rest.

I was pretty pissed that Brand bolted. It wasn't so much that he left, but how it happened. I've forgiven the dude and gotten over it, but I still can't stand Falk. Dunleavy went on the radio to put out his truth on "bRANd" and Falk and declared that this was now "the Baron Davis Era." I liked the boldness by Dunleavy and was ready to embrace the new era of Clipper basketball.

It didn't work out for anybody involved. Baron had his moments where he shined, but there was the injuries, the poor physical condition and the attitude. When we were the lottery, everybody was hyped....the fans, players, coaches, etc. Blake goes down in the final game of the preseason, but that's OK because he'll be back in a few months. Baron was in pretty decent shape and the team was trying to tread water until he returned so that we could make a playoff push. Then there was the broken water main game in Memphis which was pretty symbolic for the rest of the season and for the futures of Dunleavy and Davis with the franchise.

I really like Baron the person and I wanted it to work for that reason, but it was just not a good fit. There's things that he could have done differently, but it just wasn't meant to be. I wanted us to trade him or hopefully amnesty him if it existed in the new CBA (2011), so I wasn't upset with the deal. I was a bit pissed that Cleveland won the lottery with our pick though. Irving was the only player I would have been upset with giving up at the time and it happened. At the end of the day, it worked out for us. I hated to see Baron destroy his knee with the Knicks. If he's done for good, then I wish him the best. I'd like to see him around in the NBA in some kind of capacity.

I've never been a huge fan of the man I call Kyrus Irvus.

I never wanted him in that draft. Never saw him growing to be better than the top 5 PGs at the time....like, his ceiling wasn't as high as theirs.

CP, TP, D. Rose, Russy an Rondo.
well...while he certainly can put that basketball in a hoop....in 2014, I'm not seeing where this kid is going to pass these guys unless those last 3 are just never the same again after their injury.


im glad we circumvented drafting him and I owe Neil Oshey an apology.
He bet on himself and ended up obtaining CP at the end of all it.

[mkwest]

I've never been a huge fan of the man I call Kyrus Irvus.

I never wanted him in that draft. Never saw him growing to be better than the top 5 PGs at the time....like, his ceiling wasn't as high as theirs.

CP, TP, D. Rose, Russy an Rondo.
well...while he certainly can put that basketball in a hoop....in 2014, I'm not seeing where this kid is going to pass these guys unless those last 3 are just never the same again after their injury.


im glad we circumvented drafting him and I owe Neil Oshey an apology.
He bet on himself and ended up obtaining CP at the end of all it.

I wasn't enamored with that draft class at the time. I don't think anybody was. We had what should have been the 8th pick. Irving was really the only player that I could get excited about at the time. He looked to have the most potential and would have filled that pg need that we had. For me, it wasn't so much as about him being a Paul, Rose, Rondo, etc. as it was just that he looked to be the best that the class had to offer. I didn't think we would jump, so I wasn't upset with the trade. In retrospect we gave up the number one pick for Mo Williams just to move Baron. People ragged on us here. It was rough. "Clippers being the Clippers" type of stuff.

Cleveland only wanted the pick. Had we top 1-3 protected the pick, we would have likely had to have given them the Minnesota pick since our future 1st was going to Boston due to the Bledsoe trade with OKC. That Minny pick looked like a golden ticket for how bad they were and how good the 2012 draft was shaping up to be.

Neil definitely helped people forget about it really quick though. For us, we didn't really miss out on anything. There was the draft, the lockout and boom!, we have CP3. Kyrie who?

Now, Irving is showing some warts. No defense, not really a leader, injury prone, etc. Other than from an asset perspective, there's not much reason to play the "what if" game with him as far as I'm concerned.

[mttwlsn16]

Baron threw the best lobs.

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I like Blake better with short hair.

[Neddy]

for a few years, i stopped calling Elton Elton, and started calling him Felton, as of F... Elton.

like MKW, i was excited to have Baron on board for about... 2 weeks and my initial welcome died out quickly, as Baron continued to play hero ball then eventually quit on the team mentally. i think when we got blake, it got baron's interest in playing for the clippers re-ignited, but it was too little too late at that point. his bloated contract and his disappointing plays due to his out of shape body just couldn't do what his mind wanted it to do. and besides, i think he was more interested in playing the hollywood scene than the clippers games at the staples. i don't hate the guy, i just have no passion for his time with us.

[DLaren]

The only reason Baron Davis came to the Clippers was to use the Los Angeles area as a spring-board for his "career" in the film industry.

Much like his movies, his time as a Clipper is mostly forgettable.

[RiversideClips]

I think MK WEST put it best in his post. I was excited at first, realized Fat Diddy had NO, I MEAN NO work ethic and knew at that time Clipper Nation was screwed.
"We got Falked!" was my cry for the next years b/c I think David Falk screwed us for the Mike Bibby draft.

I just hope that when the fat little bearded guy goes to a Clipper game he has to pay for his tickets b/c he OWES Season Ticket holders $$$$ b/c of his lack of productivity.

[TheNewEra]

Clippers really should of put protection on that pick at the least got a pick swap with the Cavs. Mo wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire with his play. It was a contract situation and it sucks we never seem to get much back when we trade off players lately.

[Neddy]

Clippers really should of put protection on that pick at the least got a pick swap with the Cavs. Mo wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire with his play. It was a contract situation and it sucks we never seem to get much back when we trade off players lately.

i believe we've already had another pick protected, thus making it impossible with NBA rules of that time period to put a protection on another pick. i don't remember the detail about that, but being unable to protect that Irving pick, that much i am clear of.

besides, i am quite certain that there was some under the table handshake between David Stern, Dan Gilbert, and Donald Sterling or his executive at the time, Olshey for giving each other a blow job of shuffling players which gave the cavs another #1 pick to work with, and a superstar such as CP3 coming our way when opportunities presented itself. after all, this is NBA. there is just no way in hell that for back to back years for NBA to invite just 1 special guest and that team wins the improbable #1 pick against all odds. remember the blind widow of the bullets owner when they got John Wall? or that cystic fibrosis suffering child when Cleveland won Irving? I'm sure Andy Roeser's jacket gag wasn't just a hopeful gesture.

[playaloc916]

I was really excited about him signing, but then the whole Brand thing happened... In the beginning he was all hyped up, but you could tell as time went on he started not to care anymore. From the injuries/missed games, to coming in out of shape every season, too the chucking... He used to jack up three after three, yet he had a pretty bad percentage. I remember we used to call him Barren, lol. There wasn't much to be excited about him.

But I do remember when Blake came back and was putting up his monster stats, you could tell he finally accepted his role (probably because there was something he could be excited about - Blake/EJ/Bledsoe), which was to be a playmaker, not a chucker. I felt that this was the Davis that we signed, not the one we got.

Unfortunately we never really got to see a motivated Davis for an extended period of time. So I guess I view his career with us with mixed emotions. Sometimes good, sometimes bad.

My favorite Baron moment:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP2YmskMzyw[/youtube]

[Ranma]

I've never been a fan of Barren Davis, which goes back to my being a student at UCLA during his time there. I always felt Earl Watson was the better point guard for the Bruins even as Davis got the hype. I didn't like the contract commitment given to him but kept an open mind when he agreed to team up before Benedict Brand stuck a dagger in our collective backs. While most of Clipper fandom was excited to have him aboard, I was really skeptical but still wanted BD to prove me wrong, especially given his runs of excellence in Golden State and Charlotte/New Orleans. Obviously, he didn't as he only elevated my dislike of him to hatred.

It was soon apparent upon his arrival that his primary interest for coming to Los Angeles was to team up with Brand for both of them to facilitate their movie-making aspirations. He never committed to being, nevermind staying, in shape during his time here so he pretty much spent his time trying to hobnob with Hollywood's elite while collecting a paycheck from Sterling. It got to the point that Sterling himself tried to motivate him by promising to hook him up with his L.A. connections before calling him out publicly in the infamous jeering episode.

While he had a flair for the spectacular, Davis was a shot-chucking point guard who seemed more concerned with making the highlight plays than the winning ones. Sure, his lobs to Griffin were exciting, but more often than not, they were reckless and I constantly feared that Griffin would one day re-injure himself by over-extending to try to finish off one of Diddles' lob passes. Despite also being a horribly inefficient scorer and an out-of-shape player, he still fancied himself as a leader, which had me further fearing for the make-up of this team, especially with regards to Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin. As a playmaker, he would actually freeze out Eric Gordon consistently hindering his production and thus the team's success.

The fact that we had to package an unprotected first-round pick in order to unload his bloated butt and contract should be statement enough of how much of a detriment he was to this franchise. I, too, was also disappointed that the pick turned out to be Kyrie Irving, who was the only player I actually really wanted in that draft, but resolved to convince myself that had we stuck with Baron, the Clippers' record would have been worse enough to put us in Detroit's lottery slot. CP3's arrival and Irving's petulance has since faded most of my regret over this.

The one thing I appreciated about Baron was that he was willing to play enforcer whenever anyone took liberties with Griffin or any other teammate. Even still, I despise what he did to the franchise, though not as much as Elton Brand who saddled us with him in the first place with his betrayal.

[Quake Griffin]

I was really excited about him signing, but then the whole Brand thing happened... In the beginning he was all hyped up, but you could tell as time went on he started not to care anymore. From the injuries/missed games, to coming in out of shape every season, too the chucking... He used to jack up three after three, yet he had a pretty bad percentage. I remember we used to call him Barren, lol. There wasn't much to be excited about him.

But I do remember when Blake came back and was putting up his monster stats, you could tell he finally accepted his role (probably because there was something he could be excited about - Blake/EJ/Bledsoe), which was to be a playmaker, not a chucker. I felt that this was the Davis that we signed, not the one we got.

Unfortunately we never really got to see a motivated Davis for an extended period of time. So I guess I view his career with us with mixed emotions. Sometimes good, sometimes bad.

My favorite Baron moment:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP2YmskMzyw[/youtube]

was at the game.

told my brother Baron was hitting this jumper and we were out.
Baron hit it, i squeezed my brother tight said I told you...and we walked out of Staples as everybody was umping up and down going nuts.

oh and the 35% of celtics fans sat there in shock.

edit:
Z-Bo went off this game....and I kinda hate him now.
so this game and my moment there can go eff itself

[Kyle]

He was a disappointment. Bad shooter, but when he actually gave a damn he was electric with the ball. Never forget watchin him play the lakers the first few times. He had some crazy fastbreak dribbling displays

[Sofia]

... Baron was in pretty decent shape and the team was trying to tread water until he returned so that we could make a playoff push. Then there was the broken water main game in Memphis which was pretty symbolic for the rest of the season ....

Ugh. I still remember that game. Water main burst just before the end of the 3rd and Memphis went on a 27-12 run to come back and win by 2, despite Baron posting a 27/12/12/5 game.

If I remember correctly, it was on the plane home after the game that it was announced that Blake would be out for the full season, and the LOL STILL CLIPPERS LOL started.

We went 12-34 after that game after being 17-18 before it.

[Sofia]

My favorite Baron moment:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP2YmskMzyw[/youtube]

Love this. Watched it live on a stream in my office at work on a Sunday afternoon with one of my staff at the time. The only thing better than the footage of that shot was rewinding the security tapes and watching our reaction. I got so excited I threw a chair at the safe and did a massive chest bump, knocking my unsuspecting and 15 inches shorter colleague over

[azncorruptedo17]

i was a big BD fan since he's from LA. He was mediocre at best with us.

Mostly what Ranma said.