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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#421 » by Neddy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:08 pm

East Bay Sports wrote:I would want no part of the Grizz if I'm the Clippers. Assuming you get by us, matching up with OKC is definitely in your favor over having to take on Memphis. Blake doesn't want to have to deal with Z-BO for 7 more games.


we don't match up well with your team either but yet here we are.

against the pedobears, yes we do have to worry about zebo but they are weaker than the past. we are stronger.

we will have the HCA and we have baby who can throw his weight around to match zebo's girth.

lastly, the most important factor is that the OKC is NBA's darlings with two players who gets all the calls go their way. the pedobears are not. and after Sterling fiasco, we are now the America's team. the refs will give us some favorable calls along the way. Heat vs Clippers would sell a lot of ratings and if NBA's board of directors make the vote and announce Sterling's demise during the series on live TV, it will go a long way to not only restore but come out even better for NBA's brand image.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#422 » by East Bay Sports » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:21 pm

Neddy wrote:
East Bay Sports wrote:I would want no part of the Grizz if I'm the Clippers. Assuming you get by us, matching up with OKC is definitely in your favor over having to take on Memphis. Blake doesn't want to have to deal with Z-BO for 7 more games.


we don't match up well with your team either but yet here we are.

against the pedobears, yes we do have to worry about zebo but they are weaker than the past. we are stronger.

we will have the HCA and we have baby who can throw his weight around to match zebo's girth.

lastly, the most important factor is that the OKC is NBA's darlings with two players who gets all the calls go their way. the pedobears are not. and after Sterling fiasco, we are now the America's team. the refs will give us some favorable calls along the way. Heat vs Clippers would sell a lot of ratings and if NBA's board of directors make the vote and announce Sterling's demise during the series on live TV, it will go a long way to not only restore but come out even better for NBA's brand image.


I really don't think Memphis is weaker than in the past. What do you base this on, their record? They are better than ever when at full strength this season IMHO.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#423 » by Neddy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:34 pm

East Bay Sports wrote:
Neddy wrote:
East Bay Sports wrote:I would want no part of the Grizz if I'm the Clippers. Assuming you get by us, matching up with OKC is definitely in your favor over having to take on Memphis. Blake doesn't want to have to deal with Z-BO for 7 more games.


we don't match up well with your team either but yet here we are.

against the pedobears, yes we do have to worry about zebo but they are weaker than the past. we are stronger.

we will have the HCA and we have baby who can throw his weight around to match zebo's girth.

lastly, the most important factor is that the OKC is NBA's darlings with two players who gets all the calls go their way. the pedobears are not. and after Sterling fiasco, we are now the America's team. the refs will give us some favorable calls along the way. Heat vs Clippers would sell a lot of ratings and if NBA's board of directors make the vote and announce Sterling's demise during the series on live TV, it will go a long way to not only restore but come out even better for NBA's brand image.


I really don't think Memphis is weaker than in the past. What do you base this on, their record? They are better than ever when at full strength this season IMHO.



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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#424 » by East Bay Sports » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:37 pm

My Dad's dead dude, and you are a real tool. Sorry for trying to discuss basketball on a basketball board. Keep handing out life lessons though, I'm really learning a lot from you.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#425 » by Neddy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:51 pm

well I'm sorry that your dad is dead. that was uncalled for. As my children are my #1 priority and if you loved your father to feel hurt from an internet bantering, he must have been a good man.

I can make apologies when i am wrong, just so you know. my bad.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#426 » by og15 » Thu May 1, 2014 1:20 am

East Bay Sports wrote:
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og15 wrote:People keep calling out Steph, but you have to realize that despite what some people have wanted to think, Chris Paul is an All-NBA defender at PG, and he's been locked in all series. Couple that with the team helping him and defense, it hasn't been easy for Curry.

These are those situations where a team game plan needs to alleviate you, but also learning situations where Steph watches film and sees how he can avoid getting trapped here and there, the openings he was missing, etc.

My prediction was Clippers in 6, so obviously I'm now expecting a game 6 win in GS. Whether it happens or not, we'll see.

The questions for Clippers fans is: of we win this series,who would you rather player, OKC or Memphis?


i think we match up better with OKC, but i would expect us to get by either team so i dont really care. i just hope okc and memphis goes 7, and let game 6 and 7 also be OT games.

gotta take care of business on our end first though, tomorrow night in oakland


I would want no part of the Grizz if I'm the Clippers. Assuming you get by us, matching up with OKC is definitely in your favor over having to take on Memphis. Blake doesn't want to have to deal with Z-BO for 7 more games.

I'm not sure I mind either matchup. Like I said on the general board, Blake had foul trouble in game 1, okay. He got injured in practice after game 4. Here's what he did in game 2-4 vs what Randolph did, Memphis won 2/3 of those games though.

Game 2-4

Griffin: 18.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.3 APG, 3.0 tov, 48.8% FG, .555 TS%, 33.0 mpg

Randolph: 21.3 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 1.3 APG, 3.0 tov, 55.6% FG, .600 TS%, 35.1 mpg

The problem here is that this is way above Randolph's regular season production. He also shot 6 FTA. The last two games with Griffin injured, Randolph also averaged 24/8/2.5/57.6% FG/.620 TS%. But you say, well didn't Paul put up 31.5/5/6/0.5 tov/55% FG/.645 TS%

Yea, he did, but he couldn't make up for multiple high efficiency production by Memphis.

Gasol game 2-4: 19.0 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 2.7 APG, 51.2% FG, .567 TS%

Gasol game 5,6: 15.5 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, 45.5% FG, .577. TS%

Conley game 5,6: 21.5 PPG, 14.5 FTA/g, .656 TS%

Memphis had their 3 main guys averaging about 61 pts on about .630 TS% in games 5-6. Paul made up half of that, who was going to do the rest? That was the Clippers problem against Memphis, they played such bad defense (especially with fouls) that they set themselves up to have to produce so much on offense that it wasn't reasonable, especially with Blake playing so little and hampered in the last two games. Barnes blew up in game 6, but the team still needed something like 20 pts on high efficiency from someone like Griffin to win that game.

The Clippers as a team can score better and more efficiently against Memphis in a series than OKC seemingly can. That was true last season even with Griffin being injured in the last two and minimally playing, but again, even with Westbrook back it is showing itself to be true again.

The problem last season was whether the Clippers could defend enough. Can the Clippers defend Memphis as well as just an above average team would be capable of? If yes, then their chances of beating them are quite good. Against OKC, for LAC, the individual defender to stick on Durant is not there. If CP was 6'5 or taller, then sure, but I don't think there's anyone at SG or SF to really bother him like the Memphis guys.

Against Memphis the individual perimeter defense is only an issue at PG and if Paul has the proper help and his bigs aren't fouling all the time, he can contain Conley. The other guys, it is about closing out, not individual iso defense ability.

So Clippers actually don't have a bad matchup vs Memphis as long as the defense isn't porous. As long as they don't allow 30 FTA/game in a slow paced series and 14-15 a game between Randolph and Gasol, they should make more shots than Memphis.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#427 » by Quake Griffin » Thu May 1, 2014 1:28 am

East Bay Sports wrote:
mttwlsn16 wrote:
og15 wrote:People keep calling out Steph, but you have to realize that despite what some people have wanted to think, Chris Paul is an All-NBA defender at PG, and he's been locked in all series. Couple that with the team helping him and defense, it hasn't been easy for Curry.

These are those situations where a team game plan needs to alleviate you, but also learning situations where Steph watches film and sees how he can avoid getting trapped here and there, the openings he was missing, etc.

My prediction was Clippers in 6, so obviously I'm now expecting a game 6 win in GS. Whether it happens or not, we'll see.

The questions for Clippers fans is: of we win this series,who would you rather player, OKC or Memphis?


i think we match up better with OKC, but i would expect us to get by either team so i dont really care. i just hope okc and memphis goes 7, and let game 6 and 7 also be OT games.

gotta take care of business on our end first though, tomorrow night in oakland


I would want no part of the Grizz if I'm the Clippers. Assuming you get by us, matching up with OKC is definitely in your favor over having to take on Memphis. Blake doesn't want to have to deal with Z-BO for 7 more games.

Blake isn't scared of Z-Bo. People seem to forget that Blake outplayed Z-Bo at Staples Center to start the series. He had a high ankle sprain in practice before Game 5 and was ineffective for that game and Game 6....logging 19 and 13 minutes respectfully. Z-Bo having a good series does not mean that "Griffin doesnt want to have to deal" with him.

So many people break this series down in such an elementary way which is fundamentally wrong.
They think this series is an exercise in tough Memphis v. Soft Clips. Physical Z-Bo v. Delicate Blake.
When has Blake ever demonstrated that he wasn't willing to mix it up in the paint? Flopping in 2012 (he doesnt flop anymore idc what u haters say) =/= can't play physical.

our problem was that our defense was terrible and we had no defensive identity going into the playoffs. We couldn't defend without fouling. Memphis was a horrible offensive team put up points like they were coached by Pop.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#428 » by og15 » Thu May 1, 2014 1:35 am

Nice thinking Quake ;), we had the same thought process.

...and yes, DJ is not perfect, but he was even the least foul prone of all Clipper bigs. With improved confidence and playing about 10-12 more MPG, it will be a big difference from cracked out Odom at C for half the game.

Fouls per 36:
Hollins: 9.7
Turiaf: 8.5
Griffin: 5.5
Odom: 5.4
Jordan: 4.5

He was basically the only one not fouling out every 36 minutes out of all the bigs.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#429 » by mttwlsn16 » Thu May 1, 2014 2:13 am

Lol Hollins fouling every 3.6 minutes
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Post#430 » by TheNewEra » Thu May 1, 2014 4:04 am

I still prefer OKC but game 6 needs to be the focus.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

Post#431 » by East Bay Sports » Thu May 1, 2014 4:21 am

It is all relative, guys. I'm not saying your squad is scared of Memphis, I'm just saying Blake would probably prefer sticking a guy like Ibaka on the perimeter over getting beat on in the paint by Z Bo nonstop. You can say that calling Memphis tough and physical is over simplifying things, but that's what they do, they are bullies. They beat people up. OKC doesn't know up from down most of the time on offense, I have to think they can cause your offense similar issues. Conley is a much better defensive match up on Paul than Klay is, as much as I love him. Allen is shutting down Durant, no reason to think he won't stick Crawford in a similar manner. The battle of the bigs down low would be great to see, but IMO it would be a wash at best. You point to Jordan destroying the Dubs, but hell, he is going up against David Lee most of the time lmao. I would hope he is wreaking havoc. Marc Gasol is a different animal.

I don't think you would be the underdogs of the series against Memphis, I just think OKC is a mess atm and they are the path of least resistance. If they could somehow pull it out against the Grizz that would be an easier match up IMO.
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Re: Game 5: GS Warriors (2-2) @ LA Clippers (2-2) 

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